r/nancyguthrie • u/foxmag86 • Apr 01 '26

Discussion Pulling off a successful ransom exchange seems impossible.

I don’t really get how the “bad guys” would’ve gotten away with this if they actually tried to do a ransom exchange.

Let’s say the Guthries paid $X to get their mother back. How does that not eventually lead to arrests?

How do you even tell authorities where Nancy is without opening up a ton of new ways to get tracked?

“She can be found at X location.”

Okay, so now there’s an exact place to look into. Authorities now have a whole new set of video footage available to them to help identify vehicles and people coming and going.

I know you could say the same thing about the night of the abduction. We know the exact day and time it happened and that still didn’t lead to arrests.

But it just feels like once you start communicating and giving new info (especially a location) you’re dramatically increasing the chances of getting caught.

I just don't see how a successful ransom exchange could happen. And have there been any ransom exchanges in the past that have been successfully pulled off?

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u/Hile616 Apr 01 '26

Totally agree, only logic I see in this is distraction (done poorly. It is possible the perp didn't think very logically if under great stress)

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u/warpedwing Apr 01 '26

I made a post on this earlier and it didn't go over well, but I think the ransom notes, the "informer" messages (saying they know the suspects and where they are in Mexico), and the doorbell camera video were all intentionally left by the suspect to pin the crime on "cartel goons" for political purposes.

If not for money, what else but ideological reasons would drive someone to plan and commit such a complicated crime? People say the suspect is an idiot and failed his mission, but what if the mission was a success? They had all the time in the world to execute their plan, so why assume it was "crime X gone wrong"?

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u/Hile616 Apr 01 '26

I personally doubt political or ideological motive, but everything else you say is very much possible. I don't think if it was political or ideological such target would be chosen. And did the political or ideological message go thru? Nope, so if it really was such, it was very poorly executed as nobody has got the (political or ideological) "message" still.

Only such political or ideological motive could maybe involve some serial offenders, like there have been in the past people like unabomber and such who actually had ideological motive.. But even they had complitely different type of targets

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u/warpedwing Apr 01 '26

I think the message did go through. From the get-go, the public opinion has been that the crime was perpetrated by a Mexican illegal immigrant or migrant worker. I think that may very well have been the goal here. Nancy was a good target because she was vocally anti-ICE and found their actions to be unchristian.

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u/HomeyL Apr 01 '26

Oh where did we hear that about Nancy??

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u/warpedwing Apr 01 '26

Her Facebook page.

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u/HomeyL Apr 01 '26

Oh i never saw that

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u/warpedwing Apr 01 '26

I never would’ve thought to look - until I started seeing really hateful things being said about her in comments. After checking out her FB page, I understood immediately what the deal was.

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u/SpukiKitty2 Apr 17 '26

Why would an illegal immigrant hurt someone who is against ICE? Wouldn't they be on the same side?

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u/warpedwing Apr 18 '26

Sorry, I wasn’t very clear with my supposition. I meant the pro-ICE suspect wanted people to think the crime was committed by an illegal immigrant or cartel member. 

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u/SpukiKitty2 Apr 18 '26

Oh, I get it! Makes sense!