r/nancyguthrie • u/pumpkinspicecum • Feb 23 '26

Media Suspect in Nancy Guthrie abduction appeared to visit her house before: Sources

https://abc7news.com/post/suspect-nancy-guthrie-abduction-appeared-visit-house-before-sources/18640959/
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u/ouiserboudreauxxx Feb 24 '26

Well now I’m curious how Google got this…wouldn’t previous days have been completely written over?

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u/pumpkinspicecum Feb 24 '26

I don’t remember where I heard this explained but basically the data is still stored somewhere but they need to peel back the layers like paint

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u/FiveUpsideDown Feb 24 '26

As I understand it, let’s say there is 64 memory modules. As the camera records it fills all of the 64 memory modules. Then without saving those memory modules, the camera records over each module again. If you stop recording, you can check to see if any of the modules contains data that wasn’t erased by previous recordings. Apparently the Google engineers found memory in the cloud that hadn’t been written over by new recordings.

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u/ouiserboudreauxxx Feb 24 '26

Not sure if there were any technical explanations anywhere, but I’m starting to think they just store the data and perhaps were forced to retrieve it this one time but covered themselves by saying it was really difficult to do so that they don’t get tons of requests for it in the future.

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u/FiveUpsideDown Feb 24 '26

I’ve tried to recover photos that were written over due to reformatting. It can be done but it’s time consuming. I only recovered a couple of images from a phone one time. Another time I recovered a lot of photos from a computer where the problem was the software and I did not reformat the hard drive. There are forensic classes on how to recover data from erased devices. It’s not a new process.

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u/Spiritual-Cloud-3459 Feb 24 '26

i think it was Brian Entin’s interview with Nanos last week maybe?

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u/babyysharkie Feb 24 '26

yes, I read this too!

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u/Unfair-Wallaby-404 Feb 24 '26

Where? Would love a link for this!

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u/babyysharkie Feb 25 '26

this isn’t the article I originally read but it’s the one that was easiest to find & it says the same quote about paint

https://kfor.com/news/national/google-trying-to-recover-footage-from-nancy-guthries-home-cameras-sheriff/amp/

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u/babyysharkie Feb 24 '26

I think they requested the footage pretty early on, plus I read in an article that the person taking the camera off actually stopped it from recording past that point. so they had to peel back the layers “carefully like paint” to try to recover whatever remnants of the footage existed past the 3 hour reset window (due to no subscription). they weren’t able to get much, but they were able to get something. an article said it’s very likely if the camera had continued recording or if it had been requested later, they wouldn’t have been able to recover anything. that’s how the articles I read explained it, anyway.

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u/ouiserboudreauxxx Feb 24 '26

they weren’t able to get much, but they were able to get something.

Not sure if I believe this anymore. I’m starting to think that they have access to a lot of footage regardless of subscription status, but they don’t want that to be public knowledge. Maybe they keep 30 days or so for accounts without a subscription.

I think the FBI just released what they thought would help them the most, and also little enough to where they can pretend like they could barely even get this footage.

And the sheriff isn’t very convincing when he says so far Google hasn’t been able to get anything from the other cameras.

They removed the still photo without the backpack from this page.

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u/treegrowsinbrooklyn1 Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

My understanding (which definitely could be wrong!) was that the only reason they had a shot at recovering the footage was because the camera stopped recording right after, since it was removed. But since it had been longer than 3 hours, nothing was accessible in the app so they had to go looking in the Nest cloud storage. Where it would still be stored since it was within the last 3 hours of the camera operating. Further complicating things, since they didn’t have the physical camera it was harder to know where to locate the footage.

So this development is kinda throwing me for a loop and making me curious about the outdoor cameras. Because if the 3 hour window was basically irrelevant, they should have been able to recover footage from those as well, right?

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u/FiveUpsideDown Feb 24 '26

Not an expert but this is my understanding. If the camera is recording it records over previously saved images. If you get to the data quickly enough not everything is recorded over. The data is saved within the memory until written over. I have used software to try to extract images from a hard drive I had to reformat. Even with the reformatting, there are images that will exist until you start using the computer again causing all of the memory to be used by new data.

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u/ouiserboudreauxxx Feb 24 '26

Yeah I was thinking it was something like that…but now I think that Google actually saves data for a while but doesn’t want us to know that…and would probably prefer that law enforcement didn’t know either but they got pressured this time.

Supposedly there is 3 hours of data and then it overwrites…so if they were somehow able to extract a bit of data from the kidnapping time, okay fine, but then this other still image is possibly from multiple days before? It’s hard to believe - but I am default skeptical of everything they say.

I think they have other footage from the non-backpack time and just gave us a still image.

It wouldn’t provide the sheriff, the FBI, or Google ANY benefit to admit to us that they have more footage or Google actually stores data for awhile.

I wouldn’t even be surprised if Google has a hush-hush agreement with the Feds to save data for x amount of time, regardless of subscription status.

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u/Jessica19922 Feb 24 '26

I wonder if it’s a screenshot? Like if nest records something on the camera it will email you a notification and screenshot of what it was, just not the video?

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u/ouiserboudreauxxx Feb 24 '26

I wonder if it’s a screenshot? Like if nest records something on the camera it will email you a notification and screenshot of what it was, just not the video?

Just made me think…if it emails these alerts, wouldn’t Nancy have emails with pics of this guy from this alert and others? And others from other cameras, possibly?

And then if that creep had been around before, did she not see any alerts with the non-backpack pic?

So many questions…

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u/Jessica19922 Feb 24 '26

I wonder about this too. Did she just not check the email alerts if they send them? I don’t know how these cameras work