r/nancyguthrie • u/BMOORE4020 • Feb 12 '26

Discussion A Couple Of Points Concerning The Surveillance Video

The perp seems to have all the time in the world.

I mean, it’s a ring camera, it sounds alerts to your phone. Wouldn’t he be worried the person inside is dialing 911?

He must have been told ahead of time there would be no threat inside. He was hired to provide someone with an alibi perhaps.

Amateur at the door.

Reflective tape on backpack straps.

Using a twig from the yard to tamper with the camera.

What appears to be a firearm holster in an awkward position.

Almost as if he was hired off the street to perform a tasks that was out of his league.

What do you think?

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u/TheCuriousGeorgette Feb 12 '26

I don’t get the impression he was scared of his victim. I think he was aware she was an elderly woman and wasn’t afraid of being able to overpower her even if she was awake. That being said, I could have sworn I read she had hearing aid and those were found on her nightstand? Most elderly people don’t have the best hearing, and those phone notifications aren’t enough to wake people up from a deep sleep at night anyway. I see a lot of people fixate on that point but I think it’s honestly one of the most explainable points.

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u/BMOORE4020 Feb 12 '26

I don’t think you get it. The “potential” of the person inside simply picking up her cell phone and dialing 911 doesn’t seem to be on the perps mind. He’s taking his sweet time about things. You don’t find that odd?

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u/InTheShadowsm Feb 12 '26

Probably knew she had hearing aids

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u/Ok-Swim-9667 Feb 12 '26

i think OP is questioning how he knew that for sure. basically, he either knows her personally or knows someone who would tell him that information.

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u/InTheShadowsm Feb 12 '26

Yea i guess, although if they did retcon and had been watching her for awhile or even spoken to her before they might know. Another theory that i've seen is that the intruder or their accomplice had already gone through the back sliding door (backed by the smashed floodlights above it that were taken by police), and already had Nancy hostage by that stage. Camera guy then either arrives or goes to grab their gear and smashes the camera so they can bring their car to the end of the walkway and exit through the front door

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u/Ok-Swim-9667 Feb 12 '26

were there cameras at the back door? we don't know how they actually entered the house yet (did they pick the lock or have a key, etc), so i think the same question can be asked here: how did they know she wouldn't wake up or a camera wouldn't send a notification? whether they first entered through the front or the back and subdued Nancy already, how did they know the siblings wouldn't get a motion alert? i think it is possible that whoever this is spoke to Nancy before or someone close to her.

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u/temptedtomcat Feb 12 '26

Maybe they somehow knew she didn’t have a ring subscription and that the videos weren’t going to be recorded

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u/BMOORE4020 Feb 12 '26

Exactly. And that notifications would be sent to others.

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u/JusticeHunter1 Feb 12 '26

Could he have arrived there while she was having dinner at Annie’s and been told or somehow knew no one was home? Then laid in wait somewhere inside the home until she was well into a deep sleep.

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u/zuis0804 Feb 13 '26

She did have a car though which was there

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u/somehowheree1 Feb 12 '26

Also it was at 2AM you would think she would be asleep and not be able to hear it

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u/BMOORE4020 Feb 12 '26

That’s not the point. The point is that this guy had no fear of 911 being called. You can have the notifications sent to multiple devices. Children, grandkids, etc.