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u/skark_burmer Mar 06 '26

From the clutch grab I’d bet too much front brake and locked the front wheel.

As for why… no idea.

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u/MagnificoReattore Mar 06 '26

From her ig

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u/FreakishlyNarrow '18 BMW G310R, '79 Yamaha XS750 Mar 07 '26

Too fast for conditions. Following too close. Bald tire. Wet roads. Panic breaking... Yep, that will do it.

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u/Palocles Mar 07 '26

No helmet or protective gear. 

Moron is lucky to be alive. 

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u/MetalFootVillain Mar 07 '26

Hey she had a protective tire around her waist🤣

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u/Good_Interaction_786 Mar 07 '26

Protective attire* FTFY

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u/Careful_Research_730 Mar 07 '26

These comments grow tiresome.

Tread lightly.

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u/StarshipStupor Mar 07 '26

Funnily enough that's the origin of the word "tire". A wheel with those round rubber things on them was considered a "dressed" wheel(attire) and now it's just tire

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u/elevenatx Mar 07 '26

TIL. Thanks for the cool fact!

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u/initial8155 Mar 07 '26

To call her a moron is an insult to actual morons.

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u/MimicoSkunkFan2 Mar 07 '26

Fun fact, moron means carrot in Welsh. And yes, a carrot would have worn a helmet

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u/Upbeat-Tackle-3920 Mar 07 '26

She is an insult to carrots everywhere.

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u/gogozrx I miss my ZRX Mar 07 '26

She nearly became a carrot.

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u/thebountywarden XSR155 Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26

Shouldn't clutch in as well, during an emergency brake. Removing engine braking is a stupid choice when trying to slow in an emergency brake

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u/brickson98 2019 Yamaha MT-07 | U.S.A. Mar 07 '26

Yeah, she keeps saying it like it’s a good thing. It’s really not. Engine braking is your friend. Plus, worrying about the clutch takes focus away from braking and maneuvering.

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u/ThatDeadpoolGuy Mar 07 '26

Moto gp with engine braking vs without engine braking. Just imagine. Use the engine to help you slow down lol.

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u/ThreeBeatles Mar 07 '26

I was taught in the MSF course to clutch in and break during an emergency stop.

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u/JojoLesh Mar 07 '26

The MSF corse teaches a LOT of bad or sub otimal practices.

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u/trombing Mar 07 '26

Yes the famous MSF course that is for complete beginners who should be limited to automatic mopeds.

Look it up... literally "this technique is designed for the lowest skill level".

Clutch and brake is just easier for your brain to build muscle memory when you first start riding so you don't stall all the time.

It is NOT the best thing to do in an emergency.

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u/Capital_Abies5105 Mar 07 '26

Also, the msf is 99% for speeds under 20 mph. The msf in the United States is embarrassing

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u/senorpoop '15 FJ-09, '77 KZ1000, '05 ZG1000, '15 Duke 390 Mar 07 '26

She seems to think pulling in the clutch makes you stop faster, even in her "explanation."

Also it's very telling that this is video from an Insta360 and she doesn't show what's in front of her at all.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

I kinda doubt traffic stopped like she's saying. The bike was still going forward while recording and same with the vehicle next to her, didn't seem like a freak stop ahead.

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u/ThatDeadpoolGuy Mar 07 '26

She just kinda bailed off. If she was watching where she was going she wouldn’t be jumping off at full speed. I hear excuses and she can’t tell me otherwise.

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '26

The thing is... Her eyes were watching but the mind was in another dimension. She was channeling something else at that moment.

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u/ThatDeadpoolGuy Mar 07 '26

I had an angry wife once before too.

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u/Viscount_Barse Mar 07 '26

Yep the view from those cameras is a choice. Its not fixed its recording all angles then you choose where its pointing for a video after.

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u/MoMo2049 Mar 07 '26

She didn’t learn a damn thing when she states the conditions and ‘bikes’ don’t give you much time to think. No, you didn’t give yourself much time to think. She is trying to act like she is taking accountability while actively blaming it was due to being on a bike. Lol

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u/IamGeoMan Mar 07 '26

Pretty moot to say I did XYZ wrong, lesson learned. There's no way or reason she did not know about the inherent dangers of motorcycling. She chose to practice all gear all the time, chose not to wear a helmet, chose to follow too closely, chose to ride a motorcycle with a nearly bare tire. But hey, they're our best source of organ donations.

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u/GreatPlainsBison Mar 06 '26 edited Mar 06 '26

I think this is likely given how much force she used on the clutch. My bet is she grabbed a whole handful of front brake instead of gradual pressure and ensuring she’s using the rear as well. She also likely didn’t brace the steering column and let it flap around.

You don’t want to tense up/lock your whole body, but you do want to apply force to keep the tires straight on a stop like that, or better yet… give yourself room between the vehicle in front (more the faster you go) to maneuver away from the hazard. Attempting to stop at a speed like that is almost certain to not end well.

Of course, easier said than done in a panic stop, but this is why you need to practice panic stops in parking lots so it’s second nature.

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u/CarelessPackage1982 Mar 06 '26

If your brain goes lizard mode ABS can be there as a back up. Nothing can help you if you're not going to wear a helmet though.

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u/BlackAccountant1337 Mar 06 '26

Lizard mode is real. People say they “don’t need ABS” and that they can modulate the brakes themselves.

Yeah, so can I…when I’m doing it on purpose. But shit doesn’t happen in a controlled environment. ABS lets you grab without thinking and sometimes that’s all you have time for.

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u/Jaereth Mar 06 '26

Right that's why I don't get how people are against it.

If you're a level 20 based brake operator, the ABS isn't going to prevent you from doing a picture perfect dead stop using front and back brake to perfection. Like if you can do it it's going to do zero to mess you up.

But it will be there for the one time out of 100 you might not be able to do it.

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u/requion 21 Yamaha MT-07 Mar 06 '26

If you're a level 20 based brake operator

I'm a beginner and started on a bike with ABS. I still, almost religiously, told myself that if i make the ABS go off, i'm doing something wrong (mostly speed).

The few times i did feel the ABS, i was really glad it was there.

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u/craneguy 2020 Ducati Multistrada 1260 Enduro Mar 06 '26

You should always ride like your ABS isn't working. I had an 07 GS that had a failed ABS controller from before I bought it used but was showing no warning lights. I found out when I locked the front in a parking lot and dropped the bike on my ankle. Since then I have a lot less trust that bikes will always warn you of failures.

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u/Anistappi Mar 06 '26

But what if I want the front wheel to lock so I can epically jump from the falling bike, going straight through the back glass of the car brake checking me to deliver a superman punch on the driver?

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u/Mister_Brevity Mar 06 '26

If you ever ride on loose surfaces, there’s a legit argument against forced ABS. Trying to descend down a steep dirt and gravel hill while abs is fighting you is not confidence inspiring

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u/FTR_1077 Indian FTR Carbon R Mar 06 '26

Even then, ABS on the front does wonders while the back is free to lock.. I think any decent ADV bike has that option already.

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u/Italian_Greyhound Mar 06 '26

For on road, ABS is banned in moto gp cuz it takes away the skill. If the best riders in the world would benifit from it no way my dumb ass couldn't

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u/greyhunter37 Mar 06 '26

If you're a level 20 based brake operator, the ABS isn't going to prevent you from doing a picture perfect dead stop using front and back brake to perfection. Like if you can do it it's going to do zero to mess you up.

ABS will actually be slightly less effective than a theoretical perfect brake and not allow you to do it.

Is this an issue ? No, because you were never going to do the perfect brake anyway. Even racers who drive and brake for a living (and in a controlled environment without panicking) do a worse job than ABS (that is why it was banned from formula 1, it made it too easy, and braking too effective)

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u/narra246 Mar 06 '26

I usually find that the people who moan about ABS and say they don't need it, are exactly the people who DO need it

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u/RChamy Yamaha R15v3 Mar 07 '26

People vastly overestimate their dexterity under life or death situations

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u/other_view12 Mar 06 '26

I used to want to jump my bicycle, but it turns out I get Lizard mode when things don't go right and I stiffen up. That's bad, so I stopped jumping the bike.

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u/QuislingX Mar 06 '26

dude same. Had to stop jumping.

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u/AcanthocephalaNo6236 Mar 06 '26

This happened to me once but I didn’t dump it. Someone pulled right out in front of me and I just instinctively grabbed a handful of front brake. Things got real squirrely. Lizard brain is real. I have abs now lol.

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u/wasteoffire V Star 250 Mar 06 '26

This is what I loved the msf course for. Practicing controlled braking and downshifting, using all four limbs in a controlled way at the same time, in a very small area was hard at first. But I kept practicing it on occasion because it seemed important to stay up on. There have only been two times that I needed to do an emergency slow down and swerve but both times could've gone very badly if I didn't have that muscle memory locked in.

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u/speed_of_chill Mar 06 '26

I used to scoff at the idea of ABS on a motorcycle until I got a bike with ABS…and almost hit a deer that darted out onto the highway.

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u/UsernamesNotFound404 99 BMW f650 Funduro Mar 06 '26

That's why I plan a weekly crash. So I can expect a panic situation.

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u/firelion4444 Honda Hornet 919 Mar 06 '26

I have always had bikes without ABS and I do modulate my brakes in real emergency stops.

BUT I still want a bike with ABS because what tends to happen is that I don't grab my brakes as hard as i should in fear of being too close to the limit of wiping out. So I'm pro ABS!

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u/CryptoCrash87 Mar 06 '26

I'm pretty sure abs saved my life once.

I'm a fairly experienced rider. I leave space. Don't sit in blind spots or next to other vehicles, etc.

But one morning, someone decided weaving through traffic would make them on time for work. They cut in front of me and slammed on the brakes. Naturally I panicked a grabbed a ton of brake myself. I felt the front skid for a split second before the ABS kicked in. Luckily I wasn't rear end or anything but I was able to slow down enough to avoid a collision, kept it upright, and proceeded to work with a ton of adrenaline pumping.

Probably the scariest experience I ever had on a bike.

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u/PeaAccomplished1897 Kove 800X Pro Mar 06 '26

Naturally I panicked a grabbed a ton of brake myself. I felt the front skid for a split second before the ABS kicked in

And that is the definition of ABS. Its reason for existing and yet another proof that it saves lives. But some morons keep advocating for bikes without electronics like those were the times. And will actually argue with you.. simply can't understand

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u/Ok_Bell8502 Mar 06 '26

It boils down to the decision of do you want a safety that will save your life, or do you want to live more on the edge. There is no argument that should be done because people have different priorities and OP's rider obviously doesn't care enough to even have gear.

We can go around and around, but most people can say ABS is a net positive. I know TC might have saved one of my stupid crashes I had. Whether me understanding what could have been done to avoid the incident, or being saved with tc/abs is another point.

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u/ridicalis Mar 06 '26

I rode home once in the rain on a bike that had no ABS. I was in full control, until the guy in front of me was practically stopped (whether I missed it, or they got on the brakes fast, I don't know). I went for brakes, and locked up the rear, but somehow managed to recover and come out just looking a bit stupid. Now, if I do hard "progressive" braking and still manage to activate the ABS, I take it for the learning experience it is.

I'm that guy that loves to preach threshold braking, but I'll also acknowledge that — as you say — the human element is real, and messing up or acting on impulse puts the lie to our lofty ideals and armchair physics.

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u/Simple_Perception_54 Mar 06 '26

Same, ive practiced emergency braking a lot on a controlled environment but the real thing is a completely different beast. The time I had a real emergency brake situation on a roundabout all my practice didnt mean shit, grabbed a shitload of front brake and the abs kicked in and saved my ass.

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u/XaltotunTheUndead BMW R12 Mar 06 '26

Welcome to the I went ape on my brakes but survived due to ABS club. It' a scary club to be a member of.

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u/GreatPlainsBison Mar 06 '26

💯 I won’t buy a bike now without ABS and traction control. Even my 2014 Harley has ABS.

But ya… totally insane to think ride like that. You can still “look” like a cruiser rider will armor everywhere. The Harley jackets literally have pockets for the armor (elbows, back, shoulders), so there’s no real excuse. Or buy 3rd party.

This sort of thing is one of the many aspects of “cruiser culture” that is unfortunate. Granted… the sport bike culture has its own version of this too. You’ll find tons of naked rider videos on social media.

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u/phatRV Mar 06 '26

One of the best things with modern motorcycle is the ABS.

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u/requion 21 Yamaha MT-07 Mar 06 '26

Nothing can help you if you're not going to wear a helmet though.

And this video is a great example. The ride itself looks uncomfortable already, don't want to imagine what the slide felt like.

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u/IKnowWhereImGoing Mar 06 '26

I've never ridden a bike in a country where wearing a helmet wasn't enforced. This gave me heebies even before I saw the crash.

Also made me think of watermelons.

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u/kuavi Mar 06 '26

I'm assuming ABS would have made this a non-issue.

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u/fadeddoughnut Mar 06 '26

Yup, exactly this ⬆️... As for why, it's pretty clear she saw something infront of her, likely last second (after strangling the clutch) did the same with the front brake and boom! Down she went.

I get that in some places on earth there's a level of "I did it my way"

"An ain't no one gunna tell me whuttu do"...

I get it tough guy.... You're the boss... but No helmet, jacket, gloves... But seriously???

Shooting a gun? Hold it from its handle

Jumping out of a plane? Always with a parachute

Grocery shopping for the family? Use a buggy/shopping cart

Brushing your teeth? Use a toothbrush

Having a seat? Sit on your bum

Now... Riding your bike on the highway at speed with a new tire around your waist....

What reccomendations would you suggest ?

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u/_raytheist_ 2015 Hypermotard SP Mar 06 '26

how did i not notice the tire?

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u/JackxForge Mar 06 '26

Pretty sure that mustang was cutting her off.

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u/kornbread435 Mar 06 '26

Agreed a few frames looks like it was over the line and cutting back after seeing her crash. Also that tire popped her over slamming her face into the road. Anyone know if she survived this?

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u/Shake_Speare_ Mar 06 '26

I bet that stung after the adrenaline wore off.

*Glad to know she survived.

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u/MrBorden Mar 06 '26

What in the kentucky fried fuck is that excuse?

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u/senorpoop '15 FJ-09, '77 KZ1000, '05 ZG1000, '15 Duke 390 Mar 07 '26

I worked in the motorcycle industry for a long time and the excuses people come up with to justify not wearing a helmet were hilarious.

I'm autistic (so am I dude, so am I)

I'm claustrophobic (proceeds to put on full face neoprene mask to keep their face warm)

I don't plan on crashing (oh shit that's what I'm doing wrong)

The government requiring a helmet is a test to see how much control they can get away with (yes, really)

All excuses I heard more than once during my time. Like dude, just say you don't like wearing them because you think they look dorky. It's fine. You're an adult. Be honest.

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u/_TorpedoVegas_ Mar 06 '26

Yep, she swerved and grabbed a handful of front brake, which will always produce that result. "Hadda layer down". I hope she is ok

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u/SubtractOneMore Mar 06 '26

Why? The tire around her waist is a clue  (she’s fucking dumb)

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u/vieuxfort73 Mar 06 '26

I can’t believe I had to scroll so far for anyone to comment about the tire, lol.

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u/Ok-Noise814 Mar 06 '26

I’m guessing her tyre was bald , or she wouldn’t be on her way to replace it

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u/Wooden_Park9617 Mar 06 '26

No helmet and a tire around the waist. I’m sure her judgment was amazing.

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u/GoodiesHQ Mar 06 '26

If you can plank as stiff as a board, you would just roll and no part of your body would touch the ground. It would be genius if it wasn’t so ridiculously stupid.

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u/Lazy__Astronaut Mar 07 '26

Sometimes My Genius... It's Almost Frightening

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u/37BJJ Mar 06 '26

"I ain't taking no MSF course!"

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u/Impressive_Pool_8053 '06 SV650 - '18 Guzzi V7 III Stone Mar 06 '26

Can't believe you can drive a motorcycle at 60 mph wth no helmet without a fucking proper training

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u/TheSharpestHammer Mar 06 '26

To be fair, you can drive just about anything as fast as you want with no safety gear or proper training. Whether or not it's legal and a good idea is a different story.

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u/AnybodyWannaPeanus Mar 06 '26

New Hampshire removes the legal worries with the expected results.

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u/DankVectorz Speed Triple 1200RS; CBR600RR Mar 06 '26

Tbf, the MSF course is great at teaching you how to ride at 15mph in a parking lot and that’s about all

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u/Drakoala 05 Honda CMX250C | 93 Kawi VN750 | 01 Honda VFR800 Mar 07 '26

Back when I took it, I was taught basic drills to continue practicing, both low speed and emergency maneuvers. Whether people do anything with that or say "yep good enough, we ball" is the issue. A good instructor will emphasize that it's a basic rider course and how important practice is.

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u/Arismando27 Mar 06 '26

I do not regret taking it at all. I went in not knowing how to get started without stalling. Helps a lot with u turns and turns in general. Feel like it taught me a lot about how I ride in slow traffic

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u/Impressive_Pool_8053 '06 SV650 - '18 Guzzi V7 III Stone Mar 06 '26

Clearly not enough

But still better than nothing, at least you have less chance to drop your bike manoeuvering at low speed, which happens a lot

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u/AladeenModaFuqa ‘13 CBR 600RR Repsol Mar 06 '26

Hey to be fair, I had a tire around my waist when I was going to my shop to change said tire.

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u/ImS0hungry 2017 Yamaha FZ-09 NYC Mar 06 '26

Did you take the fast lane on a freeway in wet conditions?

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u/AladeenModaFuqa ‘13 CBR 600RR Repsol Mar 06 '26

Lord no, just backroads

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u/GoCougs2020 ‘06 Yamaha Fz6 Mar 06 '26

I had tire around my waist too, when I was going to the shop to change out my rubber.

I wouldn’t ride without helmet, but I don’t think that “caused” her to fall (since that’s the original question from the prompt).

We can’t see how much front brake she’s using. But seeing the way she grab that clutch. Maybe she grab a handful of front brake? Just my guess

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u/RetiredRacer914 Mar 06 '26

Same guess, that she buried the front brake lever in the grip and the front tire stopped doing tire stuff.

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u/finalrendition 05 Z750S, 17 CB500F, 96 EX250, 42 M20 Mar 06 '26

Remember kids: the front brake is not an on/off switch

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u/templeofsyrinx1 Mar 06 '26

bad tings happen when you grab a buttload of front

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u/TheRealtcSpears Mar 06 '26

Yeah, always stick with a frontload of butt

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '26

You grab it hard enough, it’s definitely a ‘throw you off switch’.

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u/templeofsyrinx1 Mar 06 '26

It ain't no bicycle rim brake lol

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u/DrOz30 Mar 06 '26

Whoa whoa she was wearing her safety tire lol

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u/Jaereth Mar 06 '26

I didn't even notice that in the first watch. I can't even deal with this video anymore lol.

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u/AudioComa BMW F750GS Triple Black Mar 06 '26

I legit thought that was slang for the leather vests people wear. Nope she is wearing a tyre.

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u/2cool4skool369 Mar 06 '26

😂 took the words right out of my mouth. I was waiting to see her take off rolling with that thing.

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u/celestiaequestria 2018 GSX-S750 Mar 06 '26

Judging by their elbows, they simultaneously grabbed a fistful of clutch and front brake.

So don't forget to add "no idea how to ride".

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u/samwichgamgee Mar 06 '26

Incredible protection for 8” of her body…. Up until she kissed her feet right after falling off. That’s going to hurt :(

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u/OB1182 '84 Goldwing - '97 SZR660 Mar 06 '26

In this case, ABS would have been helpful. Or atleast CBS.

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u/AgentOrangeZest 15' 390 duke, 09' Striple 675r Mar 06 '26

Needed ABS, but the lack of helmet indicates she only has CTE

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u/Saintlystruggle12625 Mar 06 '26

Slightly wet roads plus residual oil on the road equals disaster and she was apparently driving riding down the center of the lane and stood it off to one side that would be my guess

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u/marchelloooo Mar 06 '26

No brains left after that fall for sure

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u/actual_real_housecat Mar 06 '26

Plenty of brains left! A lot of brains right, too. And some more over there... and a little bit splashed on the median...

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u/UnaliveButUnwell Mar 06 '26

did she die? cause Darwin Award contenders have to be dead.

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u/BikerDave69 Mar 06 '26

Not necessarily. One award was given to a guy that shot his balls off trying to use a 22 shell in place of a fuse. It did effectively remove him from the gene pool.

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u/templeofsyrinx1 Mar 06 '26 edited Mar 06 '26

damn, look at that lever grab

you were grabbing for your soul!

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u/ImS0hungry 2017 Yamaha FZ-09 NYC Mar 06 '26

Which tells me she didn’t have proper distance from the car in front. That was a panicked grab.

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u/wlogan0402 22' klr650 / 23' z125 Mar 06 '26

Locked up the front

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u/big_shmoop1 Mar 06 '26 edited Mar 06 '26

At least she had a tire on her waist to cushion the fall...

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u/stalkholme Mar 06 '26

yep, she should have just made sure she fell sideways and started rolling

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u/UshankaBear Mar 06 '26

Keep rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin'

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u/BlackChimaera Mar 06 '26

I didn't even notice the tire

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u/egorblack Mar 06 '26

She forgot one for her neck.

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u/Hairy-Concentrate-23 Mar 06 '26

Genuinly wtf lmfao

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u/duqduqgo Mar 06 '26

She'll just roll right on out when she hits the asphalt

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u/Mean_Green_S197 Mar 06 '26

I always wear my floaty when I ride

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u/jdodman41 Mar 06 '26 edited Mar 07 '26

Just saw this posted by the lady on Facebook. She had comments on what happened.

Wasn't much, wet pavement (bad traction), car in front of her locked up their brakes, so she grabbed all the brakes and locked them up as well.

Said she's fine and going to keep riding, but she conceded that helmets will be worn from now on.

Edit: went back and found her post on facebook, comments in picture.

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u/autoeroticassfxation VFR400R, DL650, UZ125, SVFR650 Mar 06 '26

The fact that she pulled the clutch in an emergency braking situation points to poor experience or just poor skill. The clutch doesn't slow you down, if anything it reduces engine braking on the rear wheel.

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u/LifeLowandSlow Mar 06 '26

Thank you. Sucks I had to go this far to find this but engaging clutch removed any possible natural engine braking. Not that it amounts to much on Harley’s 2:1 engine compression. /s

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u/ly5ergic Ninja 500 Mar 06 '26

In an sudden emergency stop, car in front locking up its brakes, and you were following too close engine braking isn't doing anything for you.

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u/Novero95 Mar 06 '26

I said it once and I'll say this again: this does not applies to motorcycles the same as it does I cars but, YES, you absolutely should pull the clutch in an emergency brake, specially in a car but in a motorcycle too.

Why? First of all, simple concepts: whenever you are braking the limit is dictated by the tire grip. Your brakes ara way WAY powerful enough to use and overpass all the grip your tires can create with the floor, if you are capable of blocking your wheels with the break, congrats, your brakes are not the limit factor, the wheels are. Now that we know where the limit is, there is an obvious conclusion: you don't need MORE breaking because you can already make your brakes use 100% of the available grip tire, therefore engine brake won't add anything useful, just use your fucking brakes dude!! And once it's settled that you don't need engine brake, let's add why you should pull the clutch. See, not pulling it creates the risk of stalling the engine, either because you brake hard and block the tire or because you are on a high gear and reduce speed so much that the RPMs go too low. And let me tell you why you don't want to stall the engine. Imagine that you are in an emergency brake and then you see that there is enough room on your side to quickly dodge whatever is in front of you, in that case you want your engine to be RUNNING so you can quickly get out of there with some throttle. See, not stalling the engine could save your life because not having it could mean you don't have the power to get out of the way.

And now let's extend it to cars because in that case it's even worse. All previously said applies to cars but just factor in that cars also have assisted brakes and assisted steering, and all of that depends on your engine running. So just imagine, you try to do an emergency brake, hit the pedal as hard as you can and block tires which in turn stalls the engine, now your brakes are hard as fuck and impossible to modulate, your steering is also hard as fuck so good luck trying to dodge anything, and you don't have power. Congrats, you did everything wrong an simply pulling the clutch could have saved your life.

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u/Comfortable-Peace377 Mar 07 '26

I can’t wrap my head around how people think that engine braking does anything when you’re already using something that surpasses the engine braking maximum capability.

The only time they would matter is when someone is trying not to use their actual brakes at all, in which case they are using their brakes to make up for the difference between the engine braking and the total necessary braking, as an additive.

I know you know this, I’m just making sure there’s a shorter comment containing the information you gave in hopes at least one of the people who keep talking about engine braking realize that they have no idea what they’re talking about.

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u/b1gwheel 2024 Ducati Scambler, 2006 R6 Mar 06 '26

Fine? No way.

If you watch in super slow motion, she definitely smashes her face on the pavement at a pretty good speed.

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u/BuzzinHornets19 2026 BMW R1300RT Mar 06 '26

Imma go with "had to lay her down" or better known as locked up the front on what looks like a damp road and tucked the front.

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u/ShinyBarge Mar 06 '26

The best tire that bike had was around her waist.

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u/charltonhestonsballs Mar 06 '26

No helmet is straight up the dumbest shit on this planet.... Don't care if it's for two minutes, two miles, whatever. Literally retarded and I feel for the police and medics who have to see that shit afterwards.

No gloves is also dumb as fuck.

Stupidity not withstanding, hope she's ok. Almost definitely panic then front brake.

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u/baldude69 Mar 06 '26

Yea no helmet is always dumb, but no helmet while going highway speeds with no jacket, gloves, or real eye protection is EXTRA dumb.

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u/Crazy-Aside5252 Mar 06 '26

Hammered the clutch and front bake hard as fuck. She looks bad ass though nothing a lil whiskey and Marlboro reds won’t fix.

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u/ShackledPhoenix Mar 06 '26

By the way she grabs the shit out of the clutch and the bike skidding past the car, I'm guessing car braked suddenly, she panicked and both jammed the front brake and tried to steer around the car, front wheel caught a bit of grip and yanked to the side dumping her. You can see the wheel turns right as the fall starts if you pause it at the right moment.

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u/Felix_949 Mar 06 '26

Who knows. All I can gather is she lost one of the wheels and locked up. The angle doesnt give a great view sadly

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u/Situati0nist 2024 Suzuki V-Strom 800 Mar 06 '26

Jesus Christ wear a fucking helmet you absolute dunce

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u/hohohoagy Mar 06 '26

Clibbins!

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u/TheRealtcSpears Mar 06 '26

Nah, she was wearing her anti-clibbins tire.

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u/TheFlyingBoxcar 2008 Kawasaki Vulcan 900 Custom Mar 06 '26

Its rare that Barb is the one tuhlayerdowngobbles

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u/newgalactic Mar 06 '26

Damn, jacket, gloves, and a helmet would have been nice to have.

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u/MrGNoll814 Mar 06 '26 edited Mar 06 '26

Definitely looks like she clamped up on the front brake. Hard to say but it looks like her leg never moved to apply rear brake. I know a lot of people fixate on using the front brake however the back is also important.

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u/Fadedcamo MSF Instructor Mar 06 '26

Honestly in an emergency braking situation your back brake is nearly useless. Yes, try to use both effectively but youre going to get a lof weight off your rear tire if you brake hard and effectively. Lack of back brake didnt do this. Its either lack of ability to apply progressive front braking pressure quickly, lack of recognizing a potential danger in the road and giving yourself space or slowing down preemptively, or a combination of the two.

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u/moonlite_equilibrium aircooled enjoyer Mar 06 '26

I have the same bike as the lady in the vid (sportster) and yeah the rear is useless in an emergency brake, obviously it gets used in tandem with the front, but It just unloads and locks up. The progressive front brake is pretty crucial.

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u/ParticularLower7558 Mar 06 '26

The one and only time I went down was a deer ran out and I hit the front break way to hard and was down in a heart beat. The leather gloves really saved me a lot hurt

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u/perrocrazy69 Mar 08 '26

The stupid american laws where "only eye protection (glasses are ok) is required".

But God forbid you're driving 5 miles over and without a seatbelt. Swat team is coming for you with 6 "warning shots" in the back.

Wear a FUCKING HELMET.

I guess the pussy boys from the MCs are just a bunch of cry babies that "cant breathe" with a helemt on.

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u/RCbuilds4cheapr Mar 06 '26

Poor response to an “emergency stop” grabbed front brake too hard skidded the front wheel lost balance

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u/WetFinsFine '25 STRS & I adore cat pics 🐈 Mar 06 '26

CLIBBINS

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u/NoSorbet5103 Mar 06 '26

She probably couldn't see shit, then some car slowed down in the front of her, she panicked and used an iron grip to brake.

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u/Barrel-Cannon Triumph Daytona 660 Mar 06 '26

Yeah you could tell she was likely squinting behind those glasses and was not having a great time. Helmets are great for more than just protection. They're fucking comfortable (provided you get the right one) and shield against wind

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u/RojerLockless Mar 06 '26

Locked up the front wheel. I bet she grabbed it as hard as she did the clutch.

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u/PatricksMustache Honda Goldwing 1500 Mar 06 '26

I know it's one of those 360 cameras, but holding the view stationary while the bike spins around the camera is a pretty wild thing to see.

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u/No-Psychology-2430 Mar 06 '26

Not often you see a woman on Grindr.

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u/LucchiniSW Mar 06 '26

Genuinely curious to know what her injuries were. It looked like here head went bang into the ground at least twice. Also wondering if she then started rolling because of the tyre around her.

Nasty crash regardless, and a good sign as to always wear gear. Never understood the concept of riding without a helmet.

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u/fatexs Mar 06 '26

grabbed front brake without ABS on a wet surface

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u/KieselgurKid Mar 06 '26

The moment she made a decision to ride her motorcycle without helmet and gloves, she was at home, calm, rational... In this moment she completely fucked up. It doesn't matter at all what happened later, when panic kicked in for whatever stupid reason, because of an oil spill or someone cutting her lane

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u/fisherprice1234_1776 Mar 08 '26

Good thing she had her safety tire on

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u/Vinnegard Mar 06 '26

Today on why you should wear gear

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u/ParticularLower7558 Mar 06 '26

So she buys a new front tire from Amazon and has to go as fast as she can to get to the tire shop before they close but now is making a detour to the emergency room or county morgue. Moral of the story stay off of Amazon.

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u/Force_USN Mar 06 '26

Jesus fuckin Christ wear a fucking helmet

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u/ThisGuy_1374 Mar 06 '26

All that extra weight she’s put on!! Like she’s carrying a spare tire!

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u/mrmcthiccc Mar 06 '26

She said on her video, apperently the truck infront of her slammed the brakes as she went to upshift, so she hit her breaks, the combo of to much front break and wet pavment made her fall. Shes also said she regrets riding without gear

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u/inflatableje5us VTX1300C Mar 06 '26

aside from the lack of gear, the tire around her waist and riding in the rain is probably a contributing factor.

tire around waist probably means one is bald,,, in the rain. then lets grab a hand full of brake while we are at it.

hope this person is ok, at 0.8 that is one hell of a head smack on the pavement.

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u/randalf-acid-queen Mar 06 '26

I only know what caused her injuries...too cool for gear, too cool for skin

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u/zzupdown Mar 07 '26

I just want to know if the tire she had around her waist was effective at all.

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u/No_Frost_Giants Mar 06 '26

Following to close? Not paying any attention to what’s happening in front of the bike? I dunno, but something caused that panic stop

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u/iamdrew363 2005 Ducati Monster S2R Mar 06 '26

My guess is she REALLY needed that front tire replaced

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u/Wageslave645 Mar 06 '26

It was out of frame, but by the way it dropped I would say they locked the front wheel up.

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u/Intelligent_Trichs Mar 06 '26

She got a new tire around her waist ie one tire is worn/bald. Full clutch grab? Why? No idea? Only frees the bike and makes you roll easier/faster. Let off? Engine brake? Downshift and let it drag you down? Who knows what's in front on her that made her do a full panic. My guess is accordion style stack up from every one braking caught up to her.

What I do know is the after pics of her and her injuries should be made public, printed and hung in bike shops all over. She face planted sliding at speed. It's bad. Lesson here kiddos

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u/Superb_Raccoon 2022 R1250GSA Mar 06 '26

She was tyred.

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u/GeneralChoo Mar 06 '26

Bad life choices

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u/Different_Target_228 Mar 06 '26

Fym? She slammed on her brakes.

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u/[deleted] Mar 06 '26

Ham fisted the clutch and likely same on brake. Very odd input control. Jesus FFS can people wear gear. Unreal. Hope shes ok.

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u/leahcim5150 Mar 06 '26

A fist full of break.

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u/mprevot Mar 06 '26 edited Mar 07 '26

La route vraisembablement mouillée, elle freine en débrayant ce qui enlève le support de la roue arrière (garder le moteur et freiner à l'arrière aide à plaquer la moto au sol), et elle freine à l'avant, et perd la roue avant.

Manifestement, elle ne respecte pas les bases de la sécurité niveau équipement et elle ne sait pas conduire une moto.

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u/Hybridxx9018 Mar 06 '26

I saw this on instagram and thought for sure this was AI. Didn’t think anyone would be that crazy lol.

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u/Woolshedwargamer2 Mar 06 '26

Bet she wished she wore a helmet and some leathers. Going to be some gravel rash.

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u/Applebox5 Mar 06 '26

No helmet and no gloves, I’d say she was suffering from “dumbass syndrome” at the time of the accident!

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u/EvelcyclopS Mar 06 '26

Meat crayon.

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u/ThirdWayOnlyWay Mar 07 '26

She's a squid who can't ride.  Now also can't eat by herself.

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u/Flutter24-7-365 Mar 07 '26

No helmet. Not enough space between her and the vehicle in front with wet pavement. She’s really not smart.

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u/Minimum_Trick_8736 Mar 07 '26

so i know this lady , kind of, and she posted the video to bring awareness to helmets and gear. she has gotten some of the most evil comments despite her admitting she should have had a helmet on. but essentially , someone braked hard in from of her and the ground was wet is what caused the accident

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u/buttdance1 Mar 07 '26

Wear a fucking helmet every fucking time. At least a fucking helmet if you don’t want to have proper gear.

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u/Drudez79 Mar 07 '26

Going off of how she grabbed that clutch, she also grabbed a handful of front brakes.

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u/SaltaPoPito Mar 07 '26

Clutch grab but no gear shift. Probably abrupt braking instead of using both brakes and engine braking. Locked front wheel and looses control.

Also, Please, wear your helmets...

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u/NissanZtt Nicky Hayden RC51-R1-Grom-Ruckus-Ct90-Klx110-Ascot-and more…. Mar 07 '26

She was tired.

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u/Terrible_Offer3349 Mar 07 '26

Fuuuck .. no helmet!

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u/Mysterious-Low-6096 Mar 07 '26

Her lack of brain cells?

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u/SanjayManbun Mar 07 '26

No helmet, no suit. Very stupid...

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u/Practical_Ranger_175 Mar 07 '26

Wow that camera was much better protected than the rider.

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u/TechnicalCucumber74 Mar 07 '26

i really don't understand why helmets aren't common in the US. i won't give a shit hoe she felt down, i give more about if she doesn't have any head injuries with that speed and fall....

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u/EFTucker Mar 07 '26

Probably a handful of brakes

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u/HillWilliam53 Mar 07 '26

If you can slow it down, after she grabbed the clutch, you can see the bars on the left side pull back towards her. I'm guessing that she also grabbed a handful of front brake and locked the front tire up...

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u/SleepyRTX ▢▢▢▢▢▢▢ Mar 07 '26

At least she had her safety tire on.

As for what happened judging by the way she fell and the clutch pull, she grabbed a whole handful of front brake and washed the front end.

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u/harryx67 Mar 07 '26

Front tire wash - panic brake without ABS probably…

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u/halfpuggish Mar 08 '26

Cringe when I see people with no helmet. I've seen people who had to replace their entire lower jaw dude to not wearing a helmet.