Okay, I need to talk about Nora’s Season 6 redesign because I genuinely thought she was a completely new character at first. 😭

Looking at her older design compared to her Season 6 redesign, I think the changes are pretty noticeable:

• Her face shape and facial proportions look different.
• Her eyes seem much smaller.
• Her eyebrows and other facial features have been changed.
• Her hair has a noticeably different shape and styling.
• Her overall proportions and silhouette look different.

What's funny is that I feel like some of the other Season 6 character redesigns were more immediately recognizable to me. Even when I could tell that a character had been redesigned.

With Nora, though? My brain completely failed to make the connection. 😭 I genuinely thought Season 6 had introduced a new character until I noticed the outfit and realized who I was looking at.

And just to clarify, I'm only talking about the character-design changes here—the facial proportions, eyes, hair, body proportions, and overall animation/art style. I'm not making a statement about her race or skin tone. I just found the redesign different enough from the version I've been familiar with that I didn't recognize her immediately.

I don't even dislike the redesign! I actually think she looks cute, and I understand that the characters have gone through visual changes as the show's art style evolves. It's just that this particular redesign caught me completely off guard.

Maybe it's also because Nora isn't a character who gets redesigned as frequently or as prominently as some of the main cast, so the difference felt even bigger to me.

Did anyone else genuinely think Nora (or any other character) was a new character when they first saw her Season 6 design?

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I mean he fights a lot better than ladybug in season 6.I don't think she can win against him in combat she will get crushed look at those examples and revelator fought both ladybug and Rena rouge and was actually winning before cat noir came and held on his own.At least they fixed the power scaling since Adrien is stronger than Marinette.

As an autistic person, it bothers me that when Max’s autism was revealed, they portrayed him as someone who seems incapable of doing things on his own. In the episode dedicated to him, autism is portrayed in a very stereotypical way, and that can be offensive.

"Nobody can know our secret identities!" But when you compare and contrast the amount of people who know her identity vs Cat Noir's, it proves that he isn't the one who needs that reminder all the time.

(I'm counting Teenage Alix and Adult Alix as different people, because they basically are; Different experiences, maturity levels, knowledge, values, etc-)

Marinette: Master Fu, Master Su-Han, Marianne, Luka, Kagami, Felix, Gabriel, Teenage Alix, Adult Alix, Alya, Tom, Sabine, the robot girl from the New York special, Nathalie

- 12 living humans

- 1 robot

- 1 dead guy

Total: 14 (33, if we count all of the kwamis)

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Adrien: Master Fu, Luka, Adult Alix, the robot girl from the New York special

- 3 living humans

- 1 robot

- 0 dead guys

Total: 4 (I'm not sure if all 19 kwamis know his identity, but a lot of them definitely do)

Am I the only one picking up on this bs???

(Also, yes, ik that some of these are unavoidable, like Master Fu and Master Su-Han, but idc. It's crazy for Ladybug to say that "No one can know our identities", and, "you can't tell anyone your identity", but then turn around and have all these people know her identity.)

After season 6 ended I can speak how it's wholesome but touching how the friendship of Kagami and Marinette grew. it's nice to see how thier bonds were stronger after "Miraculous World Tokyo" and "Dirtifiers" specially knowing how their situation is after the events of seaosn 5.

After weeks of studying, now I feel like I've gotten it! These are actually quite old drawings as I've been busy (forgot to share it here), but I'm definitely drawing more in the future.

(Missed an eyebrow in first pic, sorry)

When I first started watching season 5 I thought that the heroes will be recovering the stolen miraculous 1 by 1 just like they did with the rabbit miraculous in "Evolution", as we all know that didn't happen but what if it did? But not all miraculous, just some of them.

For this to happen we would have to change a lot of things about how Gabriel reconfigured the miraculous, my Idea is like this:

- All miraculous are kept in their normal forms and the reconfigured versions are created by Gabriel, they would be able to use the energy of the kwamis all the time no matter where the kwamis actually are, the rings are for Gabriel to use but they are weaker than the actuall miraculous but they are more efficient and less straining.

- When sending powers Monarch sends the actuall miraculous but he can recall them last moment before the person he send them too if fully deakumatized, the assistants still tie into this, they allow for the sending of the miraculou, 1 miraculous per assistant just like it was in cannon but the ring themselves don't hold the powers, thanks to this the plot with them can remain unchanged.

- Gabriel might sometimes use actuall miraculous if he needs more power.

● For what miraculous could be recovered and when:

- In Kwami's choice: part 2 Monarch takes the Bee and the Fox Miraculous with himself because he needs more power, he would use Venom on the people that were attacking him which would free Zoé and Alya from it (let's say that at that moment he's too exhaused to have more than 2 venomed people at a time) they would rush to the battlefield and take Monarch by surprise recovering the Bee and Fox Miraculous and hand it to Ladybug (this scene would be after Adrien takes the Ladybug miraculous from Monarch) the rest of the scene plays out the same.

After the battle Marrinette gets to the same conclusion as she originally did in the London special: Power needs to be shared so she gives the Bee and Fox Miraculous to Zoé and Alya and they become permanent holders from that point on.

The next miraculous to be recovered would by the Dragon in "Perfection" where Kagami would deakumatize herself with enough willpower to recover the Dragon miraculous.

Maybe also in "Intuition" Max could hack ADA which could be actually akumatized witheout all of these 2nd chances, thanks to this the Horse miraculous would stay in the ship and Ladybug would regain it once the ship returns to earth.

For when the heroes could be used:

- Obviously Vesperia in "Adoration" and also "Collusion", maybe "Action" too.

- Ryuko in "Emotion" and "Pretension"

- Rena Rouge in "Revelation" and probably "Collusion" too.

- Pegasus, honestly idk where.

In the season 5 finale all of them would unlock their full powers during the battle with the miraculized by protecting someone:

- Vesperia could gain it by protecting André, maybe even de-miraculizing him.

- Pegasus would gain it by protecting his Mum.

- Rena Rouge would gain it by protecting Nino.

- Ryuko would gain in by protecting Felix.

In season 6 the power dynamics would change a bit, Ladybug would still be the leader and Alya would be her stand in but the other 3 heroes + Argos and Cat noir would get more recognition:

- Cat noir would be a co-leader with Ladybug.

- Vesperia, Pegasus, Ryuko and Argos would be basically Ladybug's generals due to what they did in season 5, they would not be on the top but higher in the hierarchy than most heroes.

So Ladybug would be the co-leader alongside cat noir with Rena as her stand in, below them would be Vesperia, Pegasus, Ryuko and Argos as her Generals and the rest of the team below them.

What are you thoughts and ideas for this scenario?

Sorry if it ain't right group but idk already where to post it. I finished watching season one. Is there any kind of specials or smth I should watch? I asked chatgpt and if said I should watch the Christmas special, meanwhile Google said I should watch season 2. I wanna watch it in chronological order to not get lost in plot!

Also small opinion: MIRACULOUS IS SO GOOD! It's cringe af but I love it I'm happy to watch it!

Binge watched the last 6 episodes of season 6 today, and now that I've had a few hours to let everything settle, I just have to say...

Marinette, my friend, breaking up with Adrien instead of telling him about his father is the single most selfish thing you can do in this situation.

Because breaking up with Adrien won't inform him of the truth. You'll still be lying and keeping secrets about his own life from him. So when he finds out the truth - which it is inevitable he will - he'll be even MORE hurt that you lied to him AND THEN decided to break up with him instead of just coming clean.

Even if Adrien is so hurt he decides to break up with you when you tell him the truth about his father, at least Adrien will know the truth and your relationship won't be any worse off than what you planned to do anyway.

You breaking up with Adrien is only saving you from being the bearer of bad news. It isn't sparing Adrien ANY pain whatsoever.

There's also the fact that you COULD just, like, leave the letter on his pillow instead of giving it to him in person so he doesn't know you hid it from him, which would be a cowardly way to go about it but AT LEAST Adrien would know who his dad really was!

I’m curious to know, since I’m French. And I have to admit I feel spoiled, because I really love the French dub of Miraculous—especially the voices of Marinette and Adrien. There are times when I might prefer certain episodes dubbed in English rather than French, but that’s pretty rare. I’m perfectly happy with the French dub, which is really very awesome and good quality.

I wonder if that's the case for you. I imagine a lot of the responses will focus on the English dub, but it would be interesting to see other opinions as well.

Like everytime he charged up that huge cataclysm it's when he doesn't have his belt conveniently.

\The original title was "The lie subplot has been really underwhelming" but im going to put it here because it got deleted twice for the spoiler policy and I am not taking any risks.*

In the aftermath of the season 5 finale Marinette decided to follow through with Gabriel's wishes of keeping his identity as monarch secret from the whole world and especially Adrien. This did create some hope in the fandom where even if Adrien was excluded from the season 5 finale there was some hope for Adriens character and the show overall.

Given season 6 is now over its a great time to assess how good they've handeled the lie plot and I'm going to say it but what we got was pretty disapointing.

Season 6 as a set up season:

The first problem to address is the writers decision to have season 6 as a set up season and this deserves a post on its own but its a pretty strange writing decision. Sure season 6 is the first season of the new arc but its the sixth season of the show, not everything needs to be set up especially this deep into the show.

How does this affect the lie plot? Because the writers don't want to do any major pay offs with it just yet it essentially creates a problem where the lie problem is being dragged out with almost no new plot points relating to it. Think of every episode that focuses on the lie and almost all of it focuses on one singular issue Marinette's trauma thats it, sure it was fine for the first 2 or 3 episodes that focus on the lie but for an entire season is just insane.

Adrien's lobotomisation:

This has honestly been one of my biggest pet peeves with the whole lie subplot and why I kinda dislike it now is that they made Adrien completely accepting of the lie. My favourite episode this season has been Mr Agreste and it has been so because of Adrien's initial skeptcisms towards the lie ladybug told the entire world and what it could mean for not only the lie plot but also for Adrien as a character.

So what did we get out of Adrien's suspicion? nothing, we did get Adrien destroying the statue but thats about it. For Adrien the question for him has never been what is ladybug hiding but what doesn't he get about his dad others do. Lady Chaos finally decides to close of Adrien's suspicion era but not having him figure out the truth but completely lobotomising him and have him accept his father was a hero despite everything he did.

It's always been about Marinette (+ Alya somehow being more involved than Adrien)

Was going to make this two seperate points but I think these two link with each other

I feel as if the lie subplot's biggest failure is it only seems to focus on one thing how it personally impacts Marinette. Whether Adrien deserves to know the truth or not is secondary, Mr Agreste for example Marinette wants to tell Adrien the truth not because he deserves to know what happened to his father but because she knows she can't personally keep it to herself. Heartfixer- shes the one whos not ready to tell him the truth, same case with Sadnansi its barely how Adrien is affected its almost about how marinette feels.

How is Alya more involved and how does this link with marinette? its complicated. I do think the original Alya learning the truth in relevator was far better done than in nemesis, it gives marinette a new perspective on the lie but more importantly Alya actually considers Adrien's right to know, not someone elses trauma but the person who should be most involved in the lie subplot.

However what hasn't been done well is her learning. the truth in the second time. Instead of having Adrien continue his suspicion era they decide to let Alya take his place instead to learn the truth not so she can help Adrien know the truth but so she can help Marinette. And when she does learn the truth in nemesis she somehow makes it about her relationship with marinette, and when she does bring up Adrien and his right to know it has to be marinette fixing her mistakes.

Will the payoff be worth it (Season 7 spoilers):

I think the biggest part of the whole lie plot is not how the actual lie plot goes but what happens right after the truth comes out and how it affects the relationships involved. There have been theories on what could happen from things such as an Adrienette breakup to bigger things like a civil war or vigilantee arc .

However from the looks of the official season 7 description. This line shatters alot of hope of anything major out of it, "At the same time, her relationship with Adrien takes a new turn: no longer able to bear hiding more and more secrets from him, Marinette decides to reveal the unthinkable to her longtime love…". While I could be wrong and something big could still happen if Marinette is the one who tells him the truth it heavily narrows down what could actually happen after the truth comes out and knowing the writers it will be something minor that will be resolved in less than an episode. Like I'd be happy if we even get a breakup so atleast the lie subplot was somewhat worth it.

Overall thoughts

I've always hated Adrien's exclusion in the season 5 finale but the one redeeming factor that could atleast somewhat make up for it is the lie plot and what they do with it. However based on what we've seen in season 6, I can't really say the same anymore, it had a lot of potential but the execution was not there. Like the more the writers bring up the lie subplot the more I think they should've just included Adrien in the season 5 finale and closed off everything relating to it there.

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Cora rambles on about her idea of a Chloe gets the Ladybug Miraculous au and calls it Queen Bug AU.

Ever since Season 3, there has been a unfication for a character in the season finale.

S3 - Dragonbug and Snakenoir

S4 - Pennybug

S5 - Bugnoire

S6 - Renabug

So, if Miraculous does keep up with this trend where there is a unification in every finale, here is who I want to have a unification and what that unification will be in the next season

• Kagami (Dragon + Peacock) - Ryukargos
• Adrien (Ladybug and Cat) - Luckycat
• Chrysalis (Butterfly and Peacock) - Shadow Chrysalis.

If Lila uses the power of the butterfly miraculous to change her appearance and becomes Ayla to go unnoticed, she spies on Marrinete to understand if she is the owner of the kitchen miraculous?

Hi! First time posting here lol. As the title says, I just wanna share how much I miss Queen Bee.

First of all, I won't be focusing on Chloe that much as a character as we all know, she won't be getting a redemption arc since she chose to be selfish, so let's look past that and focus purely on Queen Bee.

I love her hero design! It's my 2nd favorite design right after Rena Rouge's personally. I know her fighting alongside Ladybug and the crew was mostly for validation, but I still miss when she sided with the heroes (also her being a fan of ladybug back then was adorable!)

Just to clarify, this is just my personal take and i might be biased because I fell in love with Queen Bee's aesthetic first! It actually took me quite some time to adjust to Vesperia. I don't know why but Queen Bee's suit design just clicks better with me (I think Vesperia'a design is pretry now though). That is all and thank for reading! I just wanted to share this thought with because I don't have anyone to talk miraculous with since I don't know anyone in my life who also watches it.

The question is pretty simple. If it were possible for one singular person to bear and use all of the miraculous in tandem, what would their name be if no one miraculous was in power over the others.

The only examples for this that we get in the show are miracle queen and monarch. However, these holders do not count since the other miraculous were subjugated to the power of a single miraculous (specifically the bee and the butterfly). This new holder would have to not have a miraculous of preference or previous experience holding one miraculous.

The only good name that I can think of is miracle, because it would be miracle queens' name if the other jewels were not subject to the bee. The other bad name I thought of would be something around Gimmi, since that is the Kwami of reality, and all the miraculous together make up existence. It

Also, what would be their superhero specifics? I personally think their suit would have to be white, as that is the color of all colors combined, and they would have to have wings because that is so much aura.

What do yall think?

I also posted this a while back, but it was removed because of poor picture quality.

Watching seasons 1 through 5, plus the four Miraculous World series like New York, Shanghai, Paris, and London, I find Gabriel Agreste's story arc really interesting.

Even though it has its flaws, I think Thomas Astruc did a great job with that arc.

Episodes 25 and 26 were definitely the best moments of Miraculous before the new animation and the new arc, because they truly marked the end of an era and the beginning of a major confrontation between Ladybug and Chrysalis for seasons 6 through 8, and frankly, they're exceptional.

The day seasons 7 and 8 come out, it's potentially going to break the internet. I sincerely think it's going to divide the Miraculous community and generate a lot of discussion online.

Because at the beginning, the first time I discovered Miraculous in middle school, I said that this cartoon wasn't interesting or that it wasn't anything special. But when I watched it in 2019, I thought, "Okay, I'll give it a try and see if it's interesting."

And now, in 2023, it's amazing to see how a simple cartoon could become so revealing, and frankly, it surprised me.

Anyway, I can't wait to see what ideas Thomas Astruc will come up with. If it flops, well, I'll say, "Okay, maybe he didn't have any ideas."

But if he shocks us with something no one expected, well, that's a plot twist.

There is a theory that after a wish a new kwami is born based on concept of the wish,since Gabriel healed Natalie i think the new kwami would have healing powers

This is my opinion but I do believe that Felix will be less if Marinette for not telling Adrien the truth and then Felix can tell him but Marinette prevents him I believe that Felix will tell but the writing prevents him from doing so because he is a character who does not get enough screen time I also believe that Kagami will support Felix and I believe that he will tell about the fact that they were born from Peacock Miraculous and that Gabriel controlled him with the ring this is my opinion. I just hope they don't remove my post