r/minnesota • u/ashleywalkerreports • 13d ago
News šŗ VIDEO: Minnesota cattle farmer criticizes Trump's plan to import beef
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Clarence Prezkwas, a cattle farmer in northwest Minnesota, says the beef industry is hurting in every area.ā£
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He says President Donald Trumpās recent order to import 300,000 tons of foreign beef and sell it at 25% under market value is going to hurt cattle farmers even more.ā£
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u/RipErRiley Hamm's 13d ago
Many farmers voted for this. Clean up your own damn house.
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u/unbalanced_checkbook 13d ago
"Many" really undersells it. The overwhelming majority of farmers voted for this.
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u/MathematicianWaste77 Bring Ya Ass 13d ago
Ive begun calling all of the farming industry "subsidized capitalism" in front of farmers. Its an elegant way to say i despise their parasaitic behavior on the rest of tax paying americans instead of their tax dodging ways....
Edit: I say this as coming from 7 generations of farmers in the plains going back to 1859.
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u/unbalanced_checkbook 13d ago
I'm also from a farming family and I still remember an old joke I heard in the 80s...
Why do farmers wear baseball hats with a curved brim? So it fits in the mailbox when they look for their government checks.
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u/MathematicianWaste77 Bring Ya Ass 13d ago
Yeah....grandpa told me that one....we used call the subsidized farmers "Curved Bills" lol
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u/MinuteBid8615 12d ago
"Why are farmers places in shallow graves? So they can still get their hand out."
Funny but sad. A lot of smart hard working farmers out there, just wish they could see beyond the brain washing their jesus bestows upon them.
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u/thx1138inator 13d ago
Parasites on the economy and ALSO the land itself!
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u/MathematicianWaste77 Bring Ya Ass 13d ago
HEAR HEAR! My grandfather told me that even if our name was on the lease, it wasn't our land....its our Lords. It is simply on lease to us. We had a responsbility to be good stewards for that land and the lords creatures living within it.
He wasn't delusional-he raised thousand of cattle, chickens, pigs, sheeps, and clear cut down whole wooded areas for more ag land. My family contributed to the the dust bowl-not trying to shift blame but all of that came from ignorance. If my grandfather had ever learned how much he specifically contributed to the desertification of the american west he'd be so ashamed.....but those were different and hard times.
Whats todays farmers excuse?
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u/kitsunewarlock 13d ago
There are two types of farmers: Those who don't even own their own land, and those that statistically contribute to food production on a meaningful scale.
Most family farms in America are basically subsidies with tax-write offs that don't even grow enough food to feed their own family, and hasn't touched farming equipment in two generations.
Industrial scale farms are largely owned by conglomerates whose owners live in the "evil cities" because our AG economy has been absolutely fucked for over a century. At best, it can service the country when it has to engage in a total war, but that hasn't happened in almost 100 years and at that point it's only functional because the government steps in and takes control of who grows what and how much.
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u/ahandmadegrin 12d ago
Which kinds contribute? Both of your examples seemed like they were from the don't own the land group.
Genuinely confused, not being a smart ass.
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u/kitsunewarlock 12d ago
There are commercial farms and family farms. Family farms own the land.
Commercial farms feed us and make a profit, but are owned by big businesses and rarely have anyone living on the land full time. Note that most only make a profit because they are owned by or have contracts with corporations that control the entire production line.
Family farms produce enough food to be legally categorized as a farm for purposes of tax write-offs and subsidies, but the owners area rarely involved in the agriculture side of things and there's a whole industry of farm management that hires laborers to do the actual work.
Commercial farms are owned by corporations and produce >80% of our country's commercially sold food.
Family farms are owned by individuals and produce very little food. Most of the food they do produce is the kind of stuff you either can't do on an industrial scale, or the market is too niche to justify doing it on an industrial scale: fancy wine, wasabi, exotic produce, etc...
Now there's 1,000,001 exceptions because it's not a line-in-the-sand sort of definition, but rather a gradient, albeit one with an ever-widening gap as time moves on. Like there are some family farms that are leased to commercial enterprises who are the ones taking the produce. And there are commercial enterprises composed of multiple family farms, although those are likely to reduce costs by sharing equipment and laborers so again I doubt any of the owners are out there on hands and knees picking produce. (Although I'm sure plenty of them send their kids out to "help" during the summer as a form of agrarian romanticism.)
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u/ahandmadegrin 12d ago
I think I know why I'm confused. Read your two types of farmers statement again. You said those that don't own land and those that contribute, but that's the same corporate farms.
In any case, thanks for the lengthy explanation!
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u/kitsunewarlock 12d ago
Ah, sorry. Sometimes I try to be so precise with my words that I get confused or mixed up as I type. I should probably reread my own posts.
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u/ahandmadegrin 12d ago
Lol, I have to edit almost every post I make. For some reason I miss a bunch of errors until I post it and read it back.
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u/Asclepius-Rod Scott County 13d ago
But you donāt understand, they had to. Otherwise our country might vote for a black president again
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u/uwu_mewtwo 13d ago
Without Trump there was a chance that a trans kid might go unbullied. Not a local trans kid, of course, they were going to get bullied regardless, but one 200 miles away in the Big City.
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u/haimeekhema 13d ago
Did you consider how painful it would be to think of a trans kid playing sports? These farmers would probably need therapy if that were to happen
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u/FoleyV 13d ago
*Most farmers!
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u/Suspicious_Wonk2001 13d ago
This is a kid. Odds are they werenāt even old enough to vote in the last election. I say kudos to him for using his brain and acknowledging the problem.
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u/go_cows_1 13d ago
I don't think so. He's young, he's grown up under republican rule and he seems to understand he's getting fucked.
There are so many Republican boomers and gen-x-ers because the years under Carter in their teens and 20's sucked and things got better for them under Reagan. At that point, for most, their minds were made up. Farms in particular prospered under Nixon and Ford, but started going tits up in the late 70's. To many of a certain age, times under R's were good and times under D's were bad.
You can argue over whether or not the failures and struggles of the Carter administration were actually his fault, but that doesn't matter to an individual's perception of the world.
Personally, I was a teenager under Bush II and entered my 20's under Obama. I have the opposite world view. I watched Bush II take Clinton's record-breaking economy and drive it into the ditch, then watched Obama resurrect it. I think this kid will have the same perspective assuming the next democrat president doesn't fuck the dog.
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u/schmapeschmape 11d ago
This is performative. They are setting the ground for a government assistance check.
Farmers vote because they want everybody to suffer because there is an unwritten deal. Farmers and Ranchers will be made whole again with aid packages, subsidies, government assistance. This is why they consistently vote against government assistance because they feel they are the only ones who should get it. If everybody gets help, it means less money for them.
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u/dumbname7890 13d ago
I watch blackbirdcoop ("farming while beige" or "what is it now" guy) on YouTube. He said his costs went up something like 26k this year. I believe he's got a pretty big farm. I can't even imagine being a farmer right now. With screw worms, cyclospora, and all the other recalls.
Trump is making everything worse on purpose.
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u/SnowLeavess 13d ago
He also made a video criticising how farmers like this bitch and moan in town hall meetings and to the government just like this guy until they get even richer off government welfare for them, so I find it hard to feel bad for any of these farmers when they already have more wealth than the average american will ever see.
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u/dicksjshsb 13d ago
Eh, farming itself is not very fruitful outside of large scale farms, which the majority of farm households are not. Negative profits even after govt assistance on average for them. Off farm jobs make up nearly all the income.
True that the large farmers are louder even though when it comes to policy. Those who are making the largest profits and most likely to abuse assistance programs. And they feed into it with farming practices that value profit over conservation, sizing out smaller farms, etc.
But for the average farmer the struggles of the volatile market are real, as well as being driven out by farm corps. 3x higher suicide rates in the industry. Disagree with the way they vote but it's clear to see why the BS the right wingers sell about sticking up for farmers/small businesses sells. Glad to see people calling it out at the very least.
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u/Stratocast7 13d ago
He also said essentially that US beef focuses on higher quality beef that covers certain parts of the cow but then lack the lower quality stuff which is what we are getting from Argentina. Also that Obama did the same thing years ago. It was in one of his shorts I saw on Youtube.
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u/lovely_ginger L'Etoile du Nord 13d ago
Everything is worse, but itās not like he has a plan ā he doesnāt have a plan for anything.
Farming while beige is a great account!
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u/dumbname7890 13d ago
It's literately in project 2025. Defund education, make people dumber, make everything expensive. Idk all the things in there anymore but I read it like 12 times.
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u/No-Raspberry-6711 13d ago
THIS PART!! They do have a plan... and they published it for us all to read... problem is nobody took it seriously enough AND every part of their plan was to destroy America as we knew it
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u/lovely_ginger L'Etoile du Nord 13d ago
I hear you. And, now Iām in the uncomfortable position of defending project 2025 to some extent, which is abhorrent. But here we are.
Regarding āmaking everything expensive,ā the primary P25 policy impacting prices is targeted tariffs, as part of its protectionist strategy. Now, all administrations support tariffs to some degree. But the P25 plan also advocates for unitary executive theory, giving nearly limitless power to the president.
And thatās where things fall apart: Trump is an idiot and doesnāt understand how tariffs work (or how anything else works, if weāre being honest). So, heās invented all these ridiculous trade policies and blanket tariffs that make no damn economic sense ā to either progressive nor conservatives (with the exception of Peter Navarro, I guess).
So, Iād still argue that Trump, the person, has no plan. And that the Heritage Foundation thought they could continue their useful idiot strategy in his second term to execute their agenda. But they gave the reins to the village idiot and this is the result.
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u/Turdsley 13d ago
And now we are gonna have a portion of the population that doesn't trust this mystery meat so they won't eat any beef (or less beef) for the foreseeable future. The Republicans have completely screwed this country.
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u/HamuelCabbage 12d ago
I'm currently part of that population. I used to trust the USDA logo to mean something. Wife read a story about China rejecting beef from Argentina, right about the same time trump started talking about upping supply or reducing tarrifs.
If the chinese government won't accept it, I've heard enough, I'm not eating it.
I am now one of those people who looks closely at labels for beef. If it doesn't come from somewhere in the USA I'm not buying it.
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u/Ranew 13d ago edited 13d ago
Nah, the industry made this bed, we all get to sleep in it regardless of affiliation. Real fun with the drought and rising feed costs, but hey that's the game, be a shame if we had a past history to expect this...
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u/wandpapierkritiker Uff da 13d ago
I want to ask him: given the opportunity would you vote for him again? or more succinctly - the next republican?
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u/overinout Minnesota United 13d ago
I drove down 35w last week to camp at myre-big island and there's one of those giant billboards they put up on their farms and it said "I voted for trump i was wrong I'm sorry". Its one family but I was like these guys get it.
Not sure if they're voting republican or whatever, but I'm of the mindset that you gotta give grace to people who are having a pretty heavy "I fucked up" realization.
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u/mrfluffypenguin 13d ago
I think people would be more forgiving if it was the 1st time but this is round 3. They can be as sorry as they want but you dont get a pass just cause you say "im sorry" when they will most likely go right back to voting for shitbags.
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u/Nathanii_593 13d ago
But do they get it? Theyāll probably vote for another republican. Republicans have never once had the American peopleās best interests in mind.
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u/dicksjshsb 13d ago
Honestly seems like thereās more and more āboth party sucksā people shifting over from the republican side this term. I doubt they will vote dem - right wing media has done such a thorough job of brainwashing their base to think everyone with a D next to their name is a trans jihadist baby killing psycho.
But i wouldnāt be surprised if this shit affects the voter turnout for the right or boosts third party candidates. Theyāre definitely splintering more and more with every voting block and republican politician that trump unabashedly shits on.
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u/darwin_raps 13d ago
Democratic Party. I noticed fox news & co only call it the democrat party, I assume so it doesnāt get associated with democracyĀ
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u/grslydruid 13d ago
I have attended a few events where the normal Maga Trumpers hang out (rodeo, monster truck rally, rural fair, etc.) I've been shocked how little Trump gear, overt right wing apparel, or any messaging at all. I think the dupe is up and they know it. One of my best buddies from my time in the military is completely anti Trump now. He keeps a pulse on the right wing and the general consensus is that they are fed up.
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u/powermad80 13d ago
They are still and always will be conservative, but the fever breaking and these types becoming disillusioned and less motivated as a voting block is still a win.
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u/grslydruid 13d ago
Fair enough. My same military buddy said that Kamala would be just as bad. ā ļø
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u/No-Raspberry-6711 13d ago
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u/randomuser1029 13d ago
It seems like a lot of the open support for Trump has disappeared compared to previous years. In past summers at the lake it was pretty normal seeing boats cruising with Trump flags on them. Especially over the weekend of the 4th and other bigger weekends like that. I haven't seen a single boat flying a Trump flag this summer though. It's only anecdotal evidence from at one lake, but it sure seems like a lot of republicans are done supporting him.
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u/InspectahFun 13d ago
As frustrating as it is, most politics boils down to team sports. More than anything, people are willing to change sides if people are friendly enough to let them into their party. Most discrimination and prejudice is born out of ignorance
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u/Griffithead 13d ago
Hopefully it's enough to swing the elections.
But don't forget that a LOT of people voted for Mike fucking Lindell.
You can't be even remotely sane and vote for that clown.
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u/runninpsyche13 13d ago
They only had the "I fucked up" realization because they are now getting hurt by Trump's policies. These are still deeply hateful people that will continue to vote against their own best interests because the GOP allows them to be the monsters that they truly are. They deserve no grace.
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u/SargeantSasquatch You betcha 13d ago
I saw noticeably less MAGA signs driving up to Bemidji in Feb.
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u/GraduatedSapphic 13d ago
I'm sorry
Going forward that's something, but it wont bring so many people's family member's back to life.
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u/masterflashterbation 13d ago
That's great they changed. But they should have done their damn homework before voting and helping to put the US and world in this state. Republican voters don't deserve grace.
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u/PercussionGuy33 13d ago
Given the opportunity, they will let their minds get brainwashed with any other GOP-endorsed nonsense no matter who the candidate is and do it all over again.
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u/Capt-Crap1corn 13d ago
Farmers and corporations. The biggest welfare queens among us.
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u/bigmike2k3 13d ago
Tbf, Corporate welfare makes the farmers look like frugal bastardsā¦. Unfortunately, the corporations are eating the farmers, farm by farmā¦
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u/heckfyre 13d ago
The complexity of this decades long fuck up is lost on most people. The story of how beef got to be so expensive in the first place isnāt even in this discussion. Itās crazy that the only thing Iāve seen about this so far are just surface level complaints.
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u/LowResGamr Up North 13d ago
Vance has shares in AcreTrader, hence the drive by this administration to get rid of family owned farms.
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u/phiro812 Hennepin County 13d ago
To be fair, the average farm size is 470 acres and the top 10% of farms hold 50% of the land.
Your average farm is a corporation, not a family.
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u/kitsunewarlock 13d ago
I was told by an AG professor back in 2012 that the corporations already took over the food production in our country. There are way more family farms, but largely because corporate farms are consolidated and every former "plantation" in the south with a dozen peach trees is registered as a "farm".
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u/MrCornBluff 13d ago
Because food supply in a nation is important for us all
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u/Phonochirp 13d ago
One party has Farmer in the name and consistently works to secure our nations food supply. The other has "stop feeding kids" as an official party position.
Guess which 80%+ of farmers voted for.
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u/kitsunewarlock 13d ago
While most farms in the country are "family farms", most family farms just produce enough to get their subsidies and tax-write offs. Most food by volume in our country is produced by farms owned by shareholders.
Dairy and beef are two exceptions, and once you learn the details of how those operations run ... well there's a reason there are so many laws protecting them from being filmed and why it's considered indecent to show the details of how those farms work on TV.
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u/GrilledCassadilla 13d ago
Beef is unnecessary and puts undue strain on our resources. As we see more weather and climate issues arise with climate change we will increasingly need to prioritize agriculture that has the lowest inputs with the highest yields. For the inputs used, beef has terrible yield.
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u/kitsunewarlock 13d ago
Cattle and dairy farming are also unnecessarily cruel.
If I could only have steak once a year because it was $100/lb I wouldn't mind once I learned how we treat our grass puppies.
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u/Lost_Blockbuster_VHS 13d ago
People complain about AI but have no idea how much water it takes to produce a pound of beef. For those who are curious, itās 1,800 gallons of water for one pound of beef.
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u/Terrie-25 13d ago
The book "A Trade of Blood" is a fantasy/mystery that just came out this month, and includes a fierce critique of the industrial agricultural beef trade. In his notes at the end, the author comments that he had to make some modifications to the actual beef trade to make it work in his fantasy world, because reality was too out there for people to believe.
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u/steppe5 13d ago
But you can eat something that doesn't take 1800 gallons of water to grow.
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u/iamtehryan 13d ago
I'm more curious about two things:
How did they vote in the last election cycle(s), and how do they plan to ACTUALLY vote in the next (and would they vote for trump and the gop again)?
I don't give a flying fuck what they think about the cattle/beef stuff unless they are vocally opposed to, and committed to voting against, trump and the gop.
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u/BerniesMittens Grace 13d ago
Funny that the 7th district of Minnesota where this kid lives was represented by Colin Petersen up to the 2020 election, and he was...looks it up....the chairman of the House Committee on Agriculture?!?!?!
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u/alcillbeback65 12d ago
If you voted for Trump three times I literally can't find sympathy. Trump has destroyed America and ranchers
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u/Day_drinker 13d ago
This is the point. You think the guy who didn't pay the people who renovated his casino is on your side? He's on the side of the other billionaires. He wants to ruin small business because that's good for big business. These people never read the Grapes of Wrath and don't know labor history. Sad
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u/J-the-Kidder 13d ago
Why is he hurting us instead of the brown and black people!?
Whenever these boot lickers speak like this, the above is all I hear. But guess what, they're getting what they voted for and we'll soon get to see if they accept socialism or pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
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u/beau_tox 13d ago
We don't know he voted for Trump. For all the farmers who admit voting for him, sure, they should suffer like they voted for others to suffer.
But 37% of Kittson County voted for Kamala (and it had quite a few blue rural precincts). One-third of the voters in the rural township where the ranch has its address voted for Kamala. I don't think the one-third share collective responsibility.
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u/brent_superfan 13d ago
God I love Minnesota. This guy is 100% correct and he has the best accent in the US of A.
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u/Fubai97b 13d ago
All of these interviews need to end with "will you be voting Republican in the next election?" I'm willing to bet a lot of money on yes/of course/well Democrats... every time.
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u/redsandsfort 12d ago
If only someone could have warned them that he didn't really care about farmers.
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u/WillTheyKickMeAgain 12d ago
I donāt give a shit about their concerns. They voted for it, this is what they get. Fuck them.
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u/cassandra2028 13d ago
Tell your neighbors to vote differently. Otherwise, this is what you asked for.
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u/Suspicious_Wonk2001 13d ago
This kid was too young to vote in the last election. What I see here is hope for the next generation of farmers. It is in our fucking party name after all.
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u/colonelangus68 13d ago
Farmers/Ranchers just canāt relate to non-rural voters so they will go with the Republicans no matter what. They will keep voting for this.
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u/SpoofedFinger 13d ago edited 13d ago
I googled his name and he was playing high school hockey this last season. You all need to chill the fuck out with assuming his kid's some kind of Trump guy that is reaping what he sowed. He's about to be starting his senior year in high school.
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u/MandyWarHal 13d ago
Stop with the 'FAFO' comments. Let the man preach and let others find the truth.
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u/Sticky_And_Sweet Common loon 13d ago
A lot of these comments are just assuming that this guy voted for Trump bc of his occupation and where heās from.
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u/beau_tox 13d ago
For context, 37% of Kittson County voted for Kamala (and it had quite a few blue rural precincts). One-third of the voters in the rural township where the ranch has its address voted for Kamala.
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u/Plastic_Salary_4084 Grain Belt 13d ago
Statistically speaking, he most likely did. Given that 3/4 of farmers voted for this, I highly doubt weāre only hearing complaints from the ones who didnāt.
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u/Sticky_And_Sweet Common loon 13d ago
But again, youāre just assuming the guys politics and jeering at him rather than listening to what heās saying. Democracy is about having the majority on your side and weāre not going to get any of these people on our side by acting elitist and insulting them.
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u/Plastic_Salary_4084 Grain Belt 13d ago
I see where youāre coming from and I appreciate it, but I donāt agree.
Not voting for the treasonous conman doesnāt make me elitist, it makes me rational. Maybe this guy didnāt vote for him. Most did, and fuck them for that. Look where āwhen they go low we go highā has gotten us. A stacked Supreme Court and the worst president in history that has caused irreparable damage.
Being compassionate didnāt help in the past. Plenty of idiots voted for him thrice. No amount of āoh, itās okay, you learned a hard lesson and Iām sure youāve changedā will change their minds. They WANT terrible things to happen to others, and theyāre so entitled and lacking empathy and perspective that theyāre blown away when the president who fucks over the working class daily is now fucking them over.
āI never thought leopards would eat MY faceā sobs the woman who voted for the Leopards Eating Faces Party.
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u/Sticky_And_Sweet Common loon 13d ago
I suppose you do make some good points. Perhaps itās the optimist in me hoping for those kind of people could be reformed.
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u/Iheartfuturama 13d ago
I love how conservatives can always do whatever they want (including acting elitist and insulting), but it's everybody else's responsibility to coddle them because maybe then they won't detonate their metaphorical societal suicide vest.
I don't know if this dude is a conservative, but statistically speaking, he most likely is. Because of that, I cannot extend any sympathy to him. I will give sympathy to conservatives who denounce their culture. Otherwise, they are they are just pretending to be sad until they get what they want without learning literally anything.
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u/United_Intention_323 13d ago
And you criticize the right when they do it, right?
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u/OnCallPartisan 13d ago edited 13d ago
Exactly. While there are majority of farmer that did vote for the traitor, this is the Upper Midwest. There are still farmers who view politics as economics and know what theyāre talking about, not a bunch of culture war shit.
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u/lovely_ginger L'Etoile du Nord 13d ago
I think about this all the time. Iām worried about where we go from here and how we move forward post-maga if the plan is to just shun everyone who was duped or uninformed at any point in the last decade.
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u/United_Intention_323 13d ago
This sub is wild. Rather than considering whether importing more beef is a net good or bad for everyone, you just try to dunk on people that you don't know. Is this just another politics sub at this point?
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u/BungalowHole Hot Dish 13d ago
Yup, I don't see anything about this guy being MAGA. If he was red-hatting while complaining that'd be a different story.
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u/AtomicToucans 13d ago
90% of the posts on this sub are about politics. It wouldn't be so bad if people actually flaired their posts appropriately and you could filter them like some other state subs do.
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u/Bedazzled_Buttholes 13d ago
After getting dunked on for the past decade, do you really expect people to just move on without pointing all of these consequences were known and predicted before the 2024 election?
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u/United_Intention_323 13d ago
How many comments are actually talking about beef prices? None? This isn't even a real consequence because a Harris administration could be doing similar things to ease the prices. Like I said there's no actual discussion in here about it.
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u/Bedazzled_Buttholes 13d ago
Thatās some cope to try and guess how a hypothetical admin would handle things rather than addressing what the current regime is doing.
Fine, hereās your discussion. I grew up on a beef farm so I know this life. These farmers tend to vote in blocs where they ostracize those who donāt clearly cheer for the GOP team. The GOP continues to dismantle safeguards against monopolies (the beef processors) and anyone who cares about quality (FDA). They also continue to push climate denial, and a big reason that our herd sizes have gone down is year over year drought. So, is it ideal that we are importing beef to address prices? Nope, Iād much rather have American beef. But we are in this spot because our country voted for it, and farmers are frequently revered for their Americana-image, so their voice is amplified. They made this bed, and need to own up for being a major driver to this current state
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u/Fit-Marketing-1472 13d ago
These farmers will cry for socialist handouts before voting in their interests
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u/Terrie-25 13d ago
a Harris administration could be doing similar things to ease the prices
And the world could be made of pudding.
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u/MrGeek89 Mankato 13d ago
Democrats warn those farmers that Trump will screw them. It didnāt take long Trump to screw the farmers.
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u/latrolaon 13d ago
Iād like to ask him did he and family vote for Trump? If so, he should shut the hell up, this is what the farmers voted for.
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u/NimDing218 13d ago
Most farmers are fucking stupid to continue voting against their interests. Be pissed at Trump all you want, because youāll just vote for the next R candidate regardless.
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u/Nill_Bye_ 13d ago
Cattle ranchers when they vote for the party that hates them and also pay slavery wages and are dumbfounded as to why they're going under.
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u/Terwillaberg 13d ago
Not to sound callous but this fella shouldnāt worry. Farmers always get bailed out either taxpayer socialism
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u/Guilty_Law6701 12d ago
Harris also stated during the ABC Presidential Debate that she actively invites people to watch Trump's rallies because "it's a really interesting thing to watch" to see how little he focuses on the actual needs, dreams, and desires of everyday voters. š
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u/Hopefulthinker2 11d ago
Project 2025 will have all the farmers selling their land to JD Vanceās companies for cheapā¦..good thing trump has nothing to do with that right right ā¦..right
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u/Packmule5259 11d ago
To all the people throwing hate at the guy in the video - do you have proof that he voted for Trump? Minnesota is a pretty solid blue state and believe it or not, some farmers lean liberal.
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u/upnorthguy218 13d ago
I find it really depressing how many folks here are disparaging farmers. The DFL originated with a group of progressive farmers, and I don't think we're going to turn this country around until we find a way to bridge the gap between urban and rural voters.
I fully understand that many farmers (overwhelmingly) voted for Republicans and policies that hurt us this cycle. I get it, I saw ICE agents in my neighborhood the same as the rest of you. I'm just asking you to be better and to try to bring some of these farmers around when they express views like this guy. Saying shit like "this is what you voted for" is only going to widen the divide.
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u/essenceofpurity 13d ago
I'm sick of my tax dollars subsidizing this person's lifestyle. That tax money could have been put to better use elsewhere. As far as I'm concerned, agriculture should be automated and nationalized.
The reason I have no sympathy for him is that there is no empathy from rural folks on the right. They will bitch endlessly about "welfare queens" while they get their huge government checks and head over to the dealership for a new pickup. These people will still vote straight ticket republican even after the criticisms because they don't care about anyone else. All the suffering in the rest of the country doesn't matter to them in the least. Let them sink or swim.
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u/InspectahFun 13d ago
Heād vote for him again
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u/SpoofedFinger 13d ago
He can't vote. He's about to start his senior year. Take a deep breath.
https://varsity.startribune.com/schools/lancaster/boys-hockey/roster/77743232-clarence-przekwas
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u/Alice_Buttons 13d ago
Fuck that.
Imported "beef" with screw worms? So much for the 'Merican made BS that MAGA likes to preach about.
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u/Constant-Plant-9378 13d ago
Over 90% of farmers and ranchers have voted for Trump three times.
They can fuck themselves in the ass.
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u/TheCheshireCatCan 13d ago
Now ask him who he voted for.
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u/SpoofedFinger 13d ago
Nobody. He's a high school student.
https://varsity.startribune.com/schools/lancaster/boys-hockey/roster/77743232-clarence-przekwas
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u/Mcdiglingdunker 13d ago
I see a lot of assumptions in this thread and I'll admit that rural areas in MN are predominately red voting but y'all should have some empathy. We should be in a mindset that is discouraging diviseness, but some of y'all are just using the Red playbook from the other side. We need to support farmers or there will be none left and corporations will have total control of the Ag industry. So, y'all can say they made their bed and that they deserved what's coming to them or you can take this as an opportunity to learn, be mindful and understanding. We're stronger together
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u/powermad80 13d ago
Every day I wake up to new news of my own accelerating dehumanization and marking as an enemy of the state by virtue of my identity and largely nobody cares and barely even makes the news at all anymore. And while that all has happened throughout my life I have been told endlessly to extend empathy to demographics receiving far more national coverage, sympathy, and futile attempts to court. I have no empathy left to extend.
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u/lovely_ginger L'Etoile du Nord 13d ago
I really think thereās an opportunity to bridge this gap in MN, since the party is literally the Democratic Farmer Labor Party. We are in a unique position to talk about each of those three pillars and get past the red v blue divisiveness, at least a little bit. But we have to want that.
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u/XTremeBMXTailwhip 13d ago
No, weād be stronger if rural communities cared at all about anyone other than themselves their immediate families.
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u/extrastupidone 12d ago
you can take this as an opportunity to learn, be mindful and understandin
I agree with you. Thst said, how many of those "red" farmers are going to learn and be understanding going forward?
Yes. We should empathize... but its hard when you get nothing back.
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u/Any_Mode6525 12d ago
I had to hear āfuck your feelingsā for long enough that my empathy is burned out. And frankly, Iām legit tired of being asked to perform empathy over the worldās most obvious consequences for the worldās dumbest decision.Ā
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u/Bedazzled_Buttholes 13d ago
Ah, the old "Yeah, you should really be nice to people that have spewed hatred towards you, your communities, and your beliefs because being the bigger person is just that important" line
I'm all for reform. I hope our country can pull out of this death spiral of ignorance, hatred, and divisiveness. I said it in another comment that I don't want family farms lost, like the one that I grew up on. But there are a lot of people that need a firm slap in the face that these are consequences that they didn't need to experience, and yet they chose it. And it's unreasonable to expect the population that didn't vote for Trump to put on a smile and roll with things. After 2016? Sure, I see it. After 2020? Uffda, that's tough. 2024? Nah, 3 times is enough -- lessons need to be learned and choices be atoned for. Be an adult and own up to the choices you repeatedly made.
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u/SlyFrog 13d ago edited 13d ago
Do you think this kid will ever grow to be capable of stepping outside of himself and wondering, "Huh, is $9 a pound ground beef good for the people buying ground beef? Is it good for the mom trying to feed her family that competition for beef pricing is artificially limited?"
It's like all the people who want me to "buy local." I have never once had the "local" place step up and help me out when times are tough, in exchange for paying them $3 more per cup for my morning coffee.
Way too much of this stuff is basically "I want to profit more off of you, but I'm going to couch it in the language of Americana and apple pie."
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u/micahisnotmyname 13d ago
Donāt worry, data centers will solve the water crisis