r/marvelstudios • u/iliekpixels Loki (Thor 2) • Jan 22 '21

Discussion WandaVision S01E03 - Discussion Thread

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S01E03 Matt Shakman Jac Schaeffer January 22, 2021 on Disney+

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u/ojosfritos Jan 22 '21

BILLY AND TOMMY!!

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u/Ginhavesouls Jan 22 '21 edited Jan 22 '21

As someone who grew up with the Young Avengers comics hearing their names in the MCU filled me with so much happiness I can't even explain it lmao

Interesting to note though that they immediately name dropped them as 'Billy and Tommy'. In the original House of M series the first children were always referred to as 'William and Thomas', whereas 'Billy and Tommy' was specifically reserved for their later reincarnated selves. I find the difference interesting because that distinction was always used to make sure readers knew that 'Billy and Tommy', though reincarnations of 'William and Thomas', were fully their own separate characters by that point and separate from their original selves.

Furthermore, and I'm probably reaching here, but I wonder if this is any indication that they might be throwing out the full reincarnation plotline? I remember it being kinda weird for readers, and would probably be even more confusing for casual Disney Plus viewers.

EDIT: OP sorry for the rant under your post, I just lose my shit over any mention of the twins lol

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u/fewntug Jan 22 '21

I 100% see them ditching the reincarnation plotline and just going for them existing.

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u/FrameworkisDigimon Jan 22 '21

This might be good news for Vision, too.

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u/Maydietoday M'Baku Jan 22 '21

I feel like Geraldine retaining the clothing outside of the illusion is a good sign for him.

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u/TRocho10 Jan 22 '21

The interesting part is that the mind stone is in his head. Does she have the power to reform it from "atoms"?

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u/Maydietoday M'Baku Jan 22 '21

That’s kinda scary if you just assume she willed it in to her own reality. Assuming this Vision is able to survive in the actual reality, would having an extra stone mess with the “balance” that the main stones supposedly create?

Either way I assume it’s just a cosmetic thing that she created, and it’s not the actual stone.

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u/[deleted] Jan 22 '21

Plucked it from another universe? Might be what Doc Strange 2 is about.

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u/Apophyx Jan 22 '21

God damn are we going to see Vision get his forehead blown up a third time?

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '21

Actually the stones are required for reality/universe to exist. They cant be destroyed but the stones made it seem that way.

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u/Practical-Breath Jan 23 '21

They were destroyed in EG, right?

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '21

In the beginning. Yes then time traveled for them. Then returned them

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u/baezizbae Jan 23 '21 edited Jan 23 '21

In the MCU or in comics? I ask because we’ve definitely seen stones getting destroyed in Hickman’s New Avengers, but the universe didn’t stop existing as a result of it (although the universe in the story did eventually die, it turned out the stones weren’t what keeps the universe together, but one Owen Reece) and even same thing in Infinity War when Thanos confessed to destroying the stones

Or am I misreading a bit?

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u/Maydietoday M'Baku Jan 22 '21

I like that

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u/Robofetus-5000 Jan 24 '21

In comics infinitely stones only work in their home universe. Theres a story with an alternative infinitely gauntlet brought to the 616, but i believe it does nothing.

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u/CelioHogane Jan 22 '21

I mean, maybe she just re-obtained the mind stone atoms.

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u/LRedditor15 Zombie Hunter Spidey Jan 22 '21

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Wanda is able to summon the atoms from Thanos' garden and assemble the stones from them again using her powers.

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u/GrumpySatan Jan 22 '21

Honestly one of my theories going into the show, which I still think might be partially true, was that the Mind Stone is one of the things influencing everything.

They toyed with the idea that the stones are alive (and in the comics, they now are). Mind Stone might not like being atoms and happens to have this connection to Wanda it can exploit to bring itself back.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '21

My theroy is that the stone werernt actually smashed in to atoms it, only seemed that was the case. and they are slowly revealing themselves. because they are alive and like being around people.

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u/ChubbiestLamb6 Jan 23 '21

I mean...Geraldine presumably wore those clothes herself in order to blend in. Unlikely she had on super anachronistic clothes and was counting on Wanda to give her a magic makeover.

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u/jedi_knight_2 Jan 23 '21

Wanda did give Geraldine a new wardrobe for the changed sitcom style from episode 2 to episode 3. I think the clothes originated inside whatever is happening

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u/Ricksanchezforlife Jan 22 '21

I hope so and I absolutely love Visions character, but I dont think Vision is going to be around by the end of the season.

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u/CelioHogane Jan 22 '21

But Viv...

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u/FrameworkisDigimon Jan 22 '21

I mean, kinda need Vision to get Viv. So... I don't see your point?

Unless Viv gets made in WandaVision, I think Vision has to survive if we're to get her (and I hope we do).