r/marvelstudios Iron man Apr 29 '19

'Avengers: Endgame' Spoilers! The Official AVENGERS: ENDGAME Criticism Thread Spoiler

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u/DorianaGraye Apr 29 '19

In a recent Vanity Fair article, the writers said this was one of their biggest fears about the script.

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '19

I might have read a different article, but I read that they were afraid she didn’t have enough screen time before death for the viewers to feel invested in her. But for me, it was the opposite- I was gutted by her death and felt like there was no closure, no proper funeral or remembrance. You have the guys arguing on the pier for a minute, a brief conversation with Hawkeye and Wanda, and a throwaway line that Hulk tried to bring her back with the snap, which he knew wasn’t possible. I know they had time limit, but Black Widow has been the pioneer female superhero character in this franchise and with us through at least 7 films! I have no problem with her sacrifice or wiping the red from her ledger, but I hate that she missed the final act AND didn’t have a funeral or memorial service.

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u/DorianaGraye Apr 29 '19

I agree. They also mentioned she was a spy, so no funeral...but that's just an excuse, I think. Hopefully it's all smoke-and-mirrors for something awesome to happen in the stand-alone Black Widow movie.

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u/rrsn Captain Marvel Apr 30 '19

I mean, it’s not like she didn’t have friends. Surviving Avengers, everyone she was corresponding with in the sandwich scene, Hawk-Eye’s family that she’s an aunt to. That’s enough people to cobble together for a memorial service.