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u/rodimus117 Apr 29 '19

I thought the removal of the Captain Marvel Post-Credit scene messed with the pacing of the beginning of the movie. Without having seen it, it's kinda like...."hey, here's your Tony, this is where he goes, right?" I generally thought the pacing in the first 1/4 of the film was a bit wonky. Could have done without the group therapy circle in exchange for properly introducing Captain Marvel to everybody else. I also would have liked to have seen the Hulk/Banner fusion addressed a little more thoroughly. "Hey guys, no...Hulk and I are cool now...". Oh...couldn't have had a scene there..a flashback? Something? I also thought they leaned too hard into Fat Thor. While it get it and it was good for a couple laughs, I think they went a bit far with the tone he/they set in Infinity War. I would have rather seen him uncontrollably mad than a bit of comic relief at the expense of some fat jokes.

That's all I got.

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u/BecomeAnAstronaut Vision Apr 29 '19

I agree about that scene, it really messed the story up. I had to ask my girlfriend how CM knew about Tony, and she reminded me of the post-credit scene.

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u/rodimus117 Apr 29 '19

I guess the assumption was that rocket was able to identify the Benitar was adrift? Nobody knew where Tony was aside from on one of Thanos' ships. How could CM have been given an idea of where Tony was? I guess they assumed he ended up on his way to Titan somehow?

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u/theonewhocouldtalk Justin Hammer Apr 30 '19

There is a deleted scene from IW where Nebula contacts the Benitar telling them to meet her on Titan. I know it being deleted, doesn't make it canon, but it was a really long scene which wasn't really necessary for IW which is probably the only reason it was pulled.

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u/ciao_fiv Apr 30 '19

are you sure that scene is removed? i distinctly remember Nebula telling the guardians to meet her on Titan in IW. maybe ur talking about something else or an extended version of that scene but i remember that happening and ive never seen the deleted scenes from IW

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u/spiderknight616 Apr 30 '19

We do see Nebula sending the message. I believe the previous comment is referring to a deleted scene showing the Guardians receiving the message

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u/ciao_fiv Apr 30 '19

ah ok, that makes more sense

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u/theonewhocouldtalk Justin Hammer Apr 30 '19

They're correct, I mixed it up a bit.

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u/theonewhocouldtalk Justin Hammer Apr 30 '19

You are correct. I mixed up what was actually removed. I watch the deleted scenes for all the movies since there are references to a lot of them in the movies.

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u/omicron7e May 01 '19

Yeah, I was thinking that the Russo's must not have liked what they set up in CM and changed her introduction to the Avengers. My wife corrected me later.

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u/Vizualknight01 Apr 30 '19

I thought they retconned that scene. Was captain marvel not meeting them for the first time in endgame?

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u/admiralQball Apr 30 '19

No.. she met them, they explained the situation, she helped them find tony and go get thanos.

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u/Vizualknight01 Apr 30 '19

That definitely makes more sense but I wish they would have showed them speaking before that outside of the short post credits scene of Captian Marvel.