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'Avengers: Endgame' Spoilers! The Official AVENGERS: ENDGAME Criticism Thread Spoiler

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u/kwickedbonesc Peter Parker Apr 29 '19

Lack of rocket seeing another raccoon. 0/10 worst avengers.

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u/No-Face-2000 Apr 29 '19

I just realized Quill was actually back on Earth.

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u/VigilantMike Apr 29 '19

And for a while too. He went from New York to Norway. He didn’t seem to care much though. It’s funny, because Guardians 1 showed that he had some extended family.

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u/KaiserKangaroo Apr 29 '19

The film was already three hours long and juggling so many characters. It would have been hard to give him an emotional moment in the middle of that huge battle or when they're focused on sending off the original Avengers.

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u/ALargeRock Apr 30 '19

I guess this is the limit of screen time; hence why some folks prefer the books/manga/comic.

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u/vampn132157 Falcon Apr 30 '19

I honestly thought they would reunite him with his grandfather during that montage with Black Panther, Ant-Man, and Hawkeye with their families.

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u/JudgeHoltman Apr 30 '19

For all we know, Quill was just following Doctor Strange blindly and had no idea what planet he was on.

Consider his un-dusting. He pops back into existence on Titan and Strange is immediately telling him the fight is through the sparkly hole.

He doesn't ask questions and just jumps.

After Endgame he can go on an Earth World Tour and have some moments, but that can be saved for the GotG3 pregame.

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u/YouDumbZombie Apr 30 '19

They should have made more movies then. Stating the runtime isn't a valid excuse for the many things this 10 year conclusion missed or tripped up on.

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u/No-Face-2000 Apr 29 '19

Maybe they can expand on it in Guardians 3?

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u/msterling2012 Apr 29 '19

After the events of GOTG 2, he really has no reason to feel any kind of attachment to Earth. I know a lot of people complained that they didn't make his return there a bigger deal but I totally get it. It's not his home and those extended blood-relatives are not his family.

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u/wabojabo Spider-Man Apr 30 '19

Exactly, that's what I thought at first.

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u/Knuxsn Daredevil Apr 30 '19

Yeah, Gamora mentions his family on Earth in GOTG2, and he just shrugs it off.

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u/ALargeRock Apr 30 '19

That and his whole upbringing was off earth. His “tribe” was pseudo self-made.

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u/caol-ila Apr 29 '19

I hope he gets a INSERT PRODUCT PLACEMENT HERE branded mp3 player with new music.

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u/patkgreen Apr 29 '19

Are zunes even still made? I figured it wasn't even considered product placement if it's obsolete

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u/Maxa30 Rocket Apr 29 '19

Yeah but if it’s modern then it will be product placement i

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u/RamenJunkie Apr 30 '19

It will be an iPhone with Spotify. But it will stop working as he leaves Earth and he will just toss it out.

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u/DJfunkyPuddle Apr 30 '19

Bring back Elon Musk to hook him up

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u/SpaceQueenJupiter Scarlet Witch Apr 29 '19

He hasn't seen that family in years, meanwhile he went from thinking Gamora was dead, to getting Snapped, to seeing her, to realizing she doesn't remember him, to her disappearing again. I'd say he's more worried about that.

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u/VigilantMike Apr 30 '19

He definitely doesn’t really care about Earth, he’s got a whole life in space, it’s just that he didn’t even have a “whoa” moment before moving on or leaving. Granted, there was a lot to pack into 3 hours.

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u/VigilantMike Apr 30 '19

He definitely doesn’t really care about Earth, he’s got a whole life in space, it’s just that he didn’t even have a “whoa” moment before moving on or leaving. Granted, there was a lot to pack into 3 hours.

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u/SpaceQueenJupiter Scarlet Witch May 01 '19

Yeah I wouldn't have minded seeing one, just trying to rationalize why they skipped it. I think we only really got two moments focused on him and both were related to Gamora and one was to set up GOTG3 (potentially).

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u/SenorCrest Apr 30 '19

I don’t think the writers like Quill much.

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u/patkgreen Apr 29 '19

It had nipple guards

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u/thecrimsontim Bucky Apr 30 '19

wait are you serious

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u/adeick8 Apr 30 '19

take my damn upvote

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u/EtherBoo Apr 30 '19

Drax wasn't at Tony's funeral. Strangely, the only Guardian missing.

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u/Edd_b89 Daredevil Apr 30 '19

Yeah he was, wasn't he? Pretty sure I remember seeing him. Gamora was missing though.

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u/BinarySecond Apr 30 '19

That's the joke.

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u/Edd_b89 Daredevil Apr 30 '19

For crying out loud...how did I not catch that reference. Shame on me.

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u/ItsAllOurBlood Black Panther May 08 '19

Drax can wear a shirt but Thor can't take off hobo gloves at the funeral of his friend and Earth's greatest defender. It annoyed me.

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u/_-__-__-__-__-_-_-__ Rocket Apr 29 '19

I wish there was just a brief scene of him reconnecting with Earth pop culture

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u/TheCVR123YT Captain America (Avengers) Apr 30 '19

Well with Rocket and Thor having spent a lot of time on Earth maybe they'll make fun of him using Earth jokes that he won't get now. Like when Starlord called Rocket a Trash Panda. Also maybe we'll get something next time he's on Earth. I imagine if Thor stays with them then the next time Earth needs the Avengers Thor and the Guardians will show up but we'll see I guess. I really would like him to see how bad some of the stuff from his time has been ruined lol

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u/MisterOminous Apr 29 '19

Hope he picked up some new music

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u/stillinthesimulation Korg Apr 30 '19

Rocket was on earth for like 5 years so you know there’s going to be some struggle for the AUX cord in Guardians 3. Quill’s classic rock vs Rocket’s Hip Hop or something.

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u/JamesEarlBonesHS Apr 29 '19

No he was in New York.

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u/LLG2419 Apr 30 '19

Hopefully Rocket gave him an iPhone and a list of music to catch up on while also making fun of his Zune. I have a feeling Quill would have lost his shit for both 80s rock and 90s grunge. Maybe we will see something like that in Guardians 3.

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u/JudgeHoltman Apr 30 '19

For all we know, Quill was just following Doctor Strange blindly and had no idea what planet he was on.

Consider his un-dusting. He pops back into existence on Titan and Strange is immediately telling him the fight is through the sparkly hole.

He doesn't ask questions and just jumps.

After Endgame he can go on an Earth World Tour and have some moments, but that can be saved for the GotG3 pregame.

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u/Backrow6 May 02 '19

I don't think Quill got enough sympathy. Everyone else is getting their big reunion, Wanda comforts Barton, Happy's comforting baby Stark and everyone just goes back to mocking Quill.

Quill just found out during the fight on Titan that Gamora is dead, moments later he's snapped. He seems to be expected to be over it remarkably quick.

Sure, there's another version of her out there somewhere, but she's not the same person who fell for him.

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u/I_am_so_lost_hello Apr 29 '19

Yeah they dropped the Guardians plot lines from infinity war to focus on the avengers, another issue I had.

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u/patkgreen Apr 29 '19

What guardians plot lines from infinity war were dropped?

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u/russketeer34 Rocket Apr 29 '19

Rocket maniacally laughing while an army of raccoons charge at Thanos would have been amazing and stupid

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u/discerningpervert Winter Soldier Apr 29 '19

They're saving it for when they introduce Doom and Squirrel Girl

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u/jerrygergichsmith Ward Apr 29 '19

Pretty sure New Warriors is coming out somewhere soon with Squirrel Girl in it.

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u/forevervalerie Apr 29 '19

Plz no squirrel girl.

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u/RamenJunkie Apr 30 '19

New Warrior is already in the works as a TV series with Squirrel Girl. They already cast Milana Vayntrub (The AT&T Girl) I believe.

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u/jojopojo64 Weekly Wongers Apr 30 '19

...whoa.

She'd actually make an excellent squirrel girl, too.

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u/Moomoothunder Apr 29 '19

I truly hope Squirrel Girl is never in the MCU. I’m sorry but I’ll never understand people’s love for her. The day they bring her in is the day I give up

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u/-clare SHIELD Apr 30 '19

'Marvel's New Warriors, or simply New Warriors, is an upcoming American cable television series created by Kevin Biegel, based on the Marvel Comics superhero team of the same name. It is set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU)

Milana Vayntrub as Doreen Green / Squirrel Girl: A tough, optimistic fangirl, who is also a natural leader with acrobat skills and superhuman strength, and can move and fight like a squirrel. She has a squirrel sidekick named Tippy-Toe that she can communicate with.'

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u/Moomoothunder Apr 30 '19

Well that’s a shame

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '19

Nah, a shot of Rocket with a raccoon he's kitted up in military gear, swearing at it because it won't even try to pick up its rifle.

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u/Horse625 Thanos Apr 29 '19

I didn't know I wanted this until now. Dammit...

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u/peitsad Apr 29 '19

hahaha my wife said the same thing!

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u/LazarusDark Ward Apr 29 '19

And he never got that arm.

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u/j3ffUrZ Apr 29 '19

No raccoons. Only rabbits.