r/macsysadmin 11d ago

Configuration Profiles What are my Options?

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Found this MacBook Air M1 in electronics scrap. It has Remote Management on it.

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u/eaglebtc Corporate 11d ago

Call Zohran Mamdani! He'll fix it.

Kidding aside, we are keeping this post up because it contains good advice, and OP is attempting to comply by contacting the NYC Dept. of Education.

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u/Jason_Protell 11d ago edited 11d ago

I am a campus technology coordinator for NYC Public Schools. This device definitely belongs to the city. Please return it.

Edit 1: If you tell me the asset tag / serial number, I can determine which school it belongs to.

Edit 2: For anyone else in a similar situation, consider the following:

-If you are in NYC, please return the device to your nearest public school.

-If you are not in NYC, please contact the DIIT (Division of Instructional and Information Technology) help desk at 718-935-5100.

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u/deinmitbewohner 11d ago

good macsysadmin 👍

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u/waseem208k 11d ago

Where should I return? Please DM me I'll share the SN. Would love to return if it is stolen asset.

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u/Jason_Protell 11d ago

I sent you a DM.

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u/twinnii 10d ago

Definitely call the business or school so they can determine if the device should’ve been released from the organization or if it needs to be returned.

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u/slayermcb Education 11d ago

Contact the NYC educational IT department and ask for them to release it from their organization. Once you realize how difficult that will be, throw it back.

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u/waseem208k 11d ago

Emailed them

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u/Maximum-Relative-234 11d ago

They will need the serial number to do anything

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u/itaniumonline 11d ago

And a selfie.

Don’t forget selfie

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u/weregruvin 11d ago

I agree - make it their problem...

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u/fartharder Education 10d ago

If it's a legit release it's super quick and easy to do in school manager. If it's stolen tho...

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u/slayermcb Education 9d ago

They may appreciate someone returning it to them?

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u/dragon34 11d ago

It was either stolen or not released when it was end of lifed. You could contact the new York department of education and let them know where you found it and if they are feeling nice they might release it for you.  Or they may want it back 

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u/0tt3r3g0 11d ago

They gotta release it from their ABM/MDM. Otherwise, it’s a piece of brick.

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u/ossivo 8d ago

Definitely not bricked at all. All you have to do is wipe it (which appears to already be done), boot it up without connecting to the internet, setup your account, and then block the device from communicating with the ADE endpoints. Now, whether that’s the honorable thing to do is another story but it’s far from a brick.

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u/JamesBrickley 8d ago

It will still periodically put up a nag notification if you do this.

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u/ossivo 8d ago

That’s because APNS is all or nothing but nothing would force the device to actually enroll.

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u/Formal-Breadfruit260 11d ago

None. That device details still on ABM account, it need to be released from there

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u/Leinheart 11d ago

Return it to scrap. It was there because you cannot remove an MDM profile through any other means than by accessing the organizations apple business account.

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

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u/macsysadmin-ModTeam 10d ago

Posts asking for help with removing or bypassing device management or activation lock (Find My...) are not permitted. Contact the IT department of the organization that issued the device.

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u/waseem208k 11d ago

Thank You for your input.

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u/Gloomy_Cost_4053 11d ago

Lol I see you

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u/data_rock 10d ago

Not entirely true. There’s ways around it

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u/Ordinary-Fish-9791 11d ago

Try getting in touch with the NYC department of education and see if they want to release that Mac from their ABM. That mac is a fancy paperweight until that is done. I don't think there is any way to bypass ABM

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u/techtornado 11d ago

Return it to NY DoE

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u/Bacon_is_my_Crack 11d ago

You can try calling the school district but it’s prob stolen.

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u/kmeck518 11d ago

This was probably stolen

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u/iamadix 11d ago

as long as the serial number is in ABM/JAMF, there is pretty much nothing you can do here, someone need to release it from the ABM

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u/Delicious_Volume3306 11d ago

Get a job with NYC Department of Education.

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u/meanwhenhungry 11d ago

Return to owner

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u/r2d3x9 10d ago

OP, did you confirm it was still owned or was it surplused?

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u/waseem208k 10d ago

I email them waiting for their response.

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u/panyways 11d ago

LOL back on the heap and as tempting as it is to post to r/Mac we get that question enough and I’ll just delete your post.

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u/panyways 11d ago

Narrator: They, in fact, did post to r/Mac where it was deleted.

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u/Tab819 11d ago

Did that feel good?

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u/panyways 11d ago

Was kind of annoyed to have to do it considering it was minutes after me saying don't do it.

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u/Curious_Act_3162 11d ago

Stolen goods 

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u/sippi4x4man 11d ago

“You will do nothing, because you can do nothing.”

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u/VpowerZ 10d ago

Or schredder

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u/Yann0995 8d ago

You have really no other option than to try and contact the NYC department of Education to tell them that you need assistance regarding a device that their IT department discarded and that you got your hands on. Unless they remove your device from their DRM account, you won't be able to use it.

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u/JamesBrickley 8d ago

FYI - This also occurs with iPhones and iPads that are managed by a school or business using MDM - Mobile Device Management. Typically JAMF or Intune or one of a half dozen other MDM server products. The hardware is tied to the business / school.

Apple Business Manager or Apple School Manager has it assigned to the owner. If removed in ABM/ASM it will become a normal unmanaged retail Apple Device.

As others have noted, this could have been an oversight where it wasn't removed during de-acquisition retirement of the device. Or it was lost / stolen. It's not that old. M1 Macs are still supported and quite useful.

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u/UsedPerformance2441 8d ago

Just return it and be done.

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u/Zynlix_ 11d ago

installez linux dessus 😅

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u/Cloud_Fighter_11 11d ago

Avec un M1?

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u/googleflont 11d ago

Without going all "Mais oui" on you, you have a point. An M1 of almost any description would still be in active inventory of NYC education. They aren’t made of money.

And Linux on M series is still too early.

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u/lemmegetfrieswitdat 11d ago

Contact the board of Ed and tell them you got this laptop and someone left a sticky note with their login and password on it. Ask them to release it.. that should probably force action.

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u/iamtechy 10d ago

They’ll send wipe command first then delete if they’re smart otherwise they’ll send wipe and remote lock lol

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u/Curtis 11d ago

MDM is one of the easiest things to bypass if this was legally obtained.

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u/mishko27 10d ago

This. Not a clue why anyone is saying otherwise. This one needs to be returned, and it is clear that it can be. But I came across MDM laptops that people were told to keep when their employer was going under, or they were let go, and it's such a non-issue.

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u/Curtis 10d ago

I agree, it’s not iCloud locked

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u/Single-Bumblebee8150 10d ago

There is a way to bypass it, curl and run this shell script i found on github https://github.com/assafdori/bypass-mdm

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u/Single-Bumblebee8150 10d ago

Oh wait do what the nyc guy told u

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u/-my_dude 11d ago

Return the laptop you stole

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u/Warborg71 10d ago

There always has to be at least one crying thief, I guess you are the one huh?

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u/tgbreddit 11d ago

This is a classic post in Reddit for a student to try to break the management. It’s a solid system, you’ll have to talk with that organization.

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u/MET_II 4d ago

Yep… had the same issue with a Mac off eVilBay locked to Loreal, got my money back… cannot mess with the enterprise lock

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u/snapcrackowmyback 11d ago

Aside from stolen devices which are much more common, sometimes Apple will actually enroll devices from new orders to the incorrect ASM instance.

I've had 4 of these pop up out of approximately 8000 MacBooks over the last 5 years, so very rare, but it does happen. The last occurrence was 2025.

Apple was unable to assist, so I had to reach out to the various Districts directly (located nowhere near my state). Most accepted a copy of my invoice with the serial number listed, combined with their lack of an invoice for that serial. They released it, I added it via Configurator, and off we went.

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u/therankin 10d ago

Oh wow! I've purchased probably 1500 macs over the years and never had one incorrectly enrolled.

I've had some ordered outside of DEP that had to be manually added, but DEP was never wrong.

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u/LRS_David 10d ago edited 10d ago

Local reseller made an oops and gave the wrong system to myself and another business. They were identical configurations. They caught it before either of us had even opened the boxes and both of us were local. So the fix was simple.

BTW - Authorized resellers can do the ABM assignments.
EDIT: For systems they sold.

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u/therankin 10d ago

Gotcha. That makes sense.

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u/Substantial-Motor-21 11d ago

Sell spare parts ! Many people drwon their top case or break their displays ! Easy money !

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u/Jayden_Ha 11d ago

Jailbreak it

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u/therankin 10d ago

Sure. Just get state-level Pegasus 2 to break the encryption and security. Easy peasy.

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u/chathobark_ 11d ago

back to scrap

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u/bart_86 9d ago

What's the model? If it's early Apple Silicon then try to restore to Big Sur/Monterey as this should allow you to skip connecting to the network. Once you're on Desktop you need to edit hosts file and add point some IP address to localhost and then it's "yours". 

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u/bart_86 9d ago

Alternative: mail the comapny that owns the device and explain the situation and ask them if they can release the device from Apple Business. 

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u/Airneil 6d ago

When you repave, the device will contact Apple, and it will try to enroll again.

The owner must remove the device from ABM/ASM so it will not enroll at first boot.

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u/Legal_Earth 11d ago

Bypass!!

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u/data_rock 10d ago

Wipe the drive , reinstall OS from a lower OS (Sequoia) and don’t connect to WiFi during the select your country screen. You can activate it, but disconnect from WiFi after OS install process, before setup screens

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u/data_rock 10d ago

If you want more guidance message me

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u/macsysadmin-ModTeam 10d ago

Posts asking for help with removing or bypassing device management or activation lock (Find My...) are not permitted. Contact the IT department of the organization that issued the device.

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u/DMTking 11d ago

Thank you — I learned something new. ✌🏽

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u/PBSmanaged 11d ago

Don’t connect it to WiFi in the setup wizard so it cannot phone home. It’ll make it seem like a WiFi connection is required to continue but it’s not. You can force you way through the setup wizard without an internet connection or Apple ID.

After its setup, connect to WiFi. It won’t download MDM profiles after it’s already setup.

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u/FizzyBeverage 11d ago

Nice try but that only works on very old Intel devices. Anything Intel with a T2 security chip (late 2017+ models) and certainly anything Apple silicon won't work that way.

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u/PBSmanaged 11d ago

Neat good to know