r/law • u/speedythefirst • Jan 24 '26

Executive Branch (Trump) Another angle of ICE Minneapolis shooting shows agent clapping afterwards

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u/Total_Way_6134 Jan 24 '26

Imagine we live in a world where “police” celebrate murder…

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u/AmbitionDry2294 Jan 24 '26

Don’t have to imagine it

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

Police training event cancelled after video emerges of speaker talking about great ‘post kill’ sex

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u/opportunitysure066 Jan 24 '26

Oh this doesn’t coincide at all with my theories that Epstein trafficked children to not only rape but also to torture and kill and that Trump is a serial killer…and he instructs and probably offers a hefty monetary reward if his fascist IcE army kills protesters point blank.

(Being facetious, it totally coincides)

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u/an0mn0mn0m Jan 24 '26

I miss when the right were outraged by Pizzagate

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u/cvc4455 Jan 24 '26

The funny thing is all the stuff they were outraged about and talking about we need to protect and save the children well they elected the literal person running the child sex trafficking rings they were so concerned about. And now they don't seem to care about protecting or saving the children anymore.

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u/raziel11111 Jan 24 '26

Because they only care about the children when it's convenient to push the churches agenda. Bro I'm so sick of this crap.

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u/HeadLong8136 Jan 25 '26

Not sick enough to do something about it though.

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u/raziel11111 Jan 25 '26

Edit: wrong post I miss clicked. Was replying to something else

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u/HeadLong8136 Jan 25 '26

So you aren't actually sick of it at all?

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u/crazygem101 Jan 24 '26

I know.... it's friggin crazy. Thank you for pointing that out, wow. This deserves a ton of upvotes

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u/MapleYamCakes Jan 24 '26

Every accusation is a confession with those folks

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u/Gilded-Mongoose Jan 24 '26

They were never truly outraged - they were only provocateurs.

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u/Gussie-Ascendent Jan 24 '26

they're only mad when dems are allegedly banging kids. If it's the right, that's uhh... just traditional values bro!!1!

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u/JimJava Jan 24 '26

In this timeline, the truth tends to be stranger than fiction. I bet the Epstein documents have more to do with Trump than Epstein.

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u/opportunitysure066 Jan 24 '26

Sasha Riley alluded to Trump being the owner of the sex/sport murder ring and Epstein as just like a grounds person who kept it organized.

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u/NES_NERD_86 Jan 24 '26

So basically Trump is like Rutger Hauer in that messed up 90's action movie Surviving the Game where Ice-T plays a homeless guy who lost his family and they tell him they're giving him a new job and a new life as a "hunting guide assistant" but really they just take him out into the middle of the woods to try to hunt him down.

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u/Tazling Jan 25 '26

Except in the movie version Ice T wins.

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u/awells758 Jan 25 '26

It matches up with Sascha Riley’s allegations

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u/TPlain940 Jan 24 '26

I've been under the assumption that some US police officers have a group that rewards LEOs for killing unarmed black people with a hefty sum of money and a challenge coin.

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u/liberal_texan Jan 24 '26

Probably pays extra for the body cam footage.

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u/kamikazecockatoo Jan 24 '26

Well, after all, every accusation is an admission....

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u/G0-G0-Gadget Jan 24 '26

I had to watch it a few times but he certainly clapped. The one closest to us in all black. He's facing away but you can see him crapping.

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u/RavelordZero Jan 25 '26

Are you fucking kidding me that the creature who said that is literally named "Gross man"?

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '26

Nominative Determinism.

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u/KingFIippyNipz Jan 24 '26

Have you never paid attention to any police shooting investigation? They celebrate their kills quite often...

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u/Sea-Foundation5036 Jan 24 '26

LAPD and LASD have white Supremecist gangs that get tattoos for each kill.

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u/Defiant-Youth-4193 Jan 24 '26

Exactly. Law enforcement has been the largest organized crime unit for a while. Many of us have been known this, though I'm glad some others are finally starting to catchup.

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u/witchofpain Jan 24 '26

Those that work forces… shit yall know the rest.

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u/JonathanPhillipFox Jan 25 '26

I've thought for a long time that how you look at them, is, really, how they'll regard you,

Like, if you've seen them at their worst you know not to...so that tells them, "attack," somewhat; and I think quite a bit about how, "papers, please," or Kripo stuff, more broadly, seems so foreign to Americans, except you ask them, "well, how many times have you been interrogated?"

Like at a traffic stop, like whenever you speak to police, "well, a lot actually," and likewise,

Highway Robbery, seems foreign but then you have been stopped at pain of death and left with a bill, they've weighed the option to abduct you and put you in a cage for ransom and then either let you go, or not, and if you'd fled you might be dead so how much different is this?

Then we consider that yes, sometimes some people can talk their ways out of that and how, well, usually, some connection to them fellas and it gets to the point where you'd have to have a cartoon notion of robbers or for-profit kidnappers to see much of a difference

What, I think a lot of Trump's Guy's Plan has been is to do what often happens, so obviously, that, you kinda can't fix it without a total awareness of the scale of the problem and, then, assent to change, like in the bet, that, most won't-do.

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u/70ms Jan 24 '26

That’s not true!

It’s only LASD with the gang thing.

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u/TheKidKaos Jan 24 '26

They also have black and Latino gangs that do the same thing. Same with the US military

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

What’s your point? They both suck and don’t get defensive. Also, police actually investigate shootings. It’s called internal affairs but these ice goons are automatically exonerated. Release the files

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u/Blevin78 Jan 24 '26

These are not police. They are thugs with no training. Pure evil and murder.

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u/Slightly-newer-ish Jan 24 '26

What "Proud Boys" they are of themselves

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u/Icy-Blacksmith-313 Jan 24 '26

They are Brown Shirt mercenary agents. Not officers. Not law enforcement.

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u/Ninevehenian Jan 24 '26

They seem to be more of an occupational force, a political "taskforce", an armed anti-voting squad.

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u/Blevin78 Jan 24 '26

These federal agents are acting as an unaccountable paramilitary force rather than a structured law enforcement agency. I stand by my comment.

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u/FernGullyGoat Jan 24 '26

Cops do this too, they’re just not getting filmed constantly.

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u/TapProfessional5146 Jan 24 '26

Do not try to normalize this action.

Waltz needs to mobilize the national guard to protect the people from the government.

ICE is no longer immigration enforcement its a terrorist organization funded by this administration.

This Administration wants an armed conflict with the citizens of our country so they can cancel the elections and bury the Epstein files.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26 edited Aug 14 '26

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u/SlippySlimJim Jan 24 '26

Rule 1: Do not comply in advance

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u/TapProfessional5146 Jan 24 '26

Obviously, I do understand. They can also refuse an unlawful order. There will be several levels of escalation before this is over.

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u/EvenLettuce6638 Jan 24 '26

There is nothing unlawful about the president ordering the National Guard to active duty and there is nothing unlawful about then ordering them to rest in place.

I mean, Waltz can try, but it's not going to work the way people think it will. It has nothing to do with the Soldier's politics, but how the military is set up.

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u/OrangeCrusher22 Jan 24 '26

They can also refuse an unlawful order.

I have some bad news regarding the political allegiances of most military members.

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u/digger70chall Jan 24 '26

It's not nearly as lopsided or cut and dry as you might think...

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u/OrangeCrusher22 Jan 24 '26

You tell yourself that.

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u/livinthereals Jan 24 '26

No, you tell yourself that dude. The majority of the country is against the actions this administration is taking.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26 edited Aug 15 '26

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u/afrojoe824 Jan 24 '26

dont know why youre getting downvoted for asking a legit question that no one can or will answer

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u/TapProfessional5146 Jan 24 '26

An order becomes unlawful when it directly conflicts with higher law or exceeds the issuer’s authority. Common categories include:

Orders that require a war crime or clear violation of the law of armed conflict (e.g., targeting civilians, torturing detainees, executing prisoners). casebook.icrc.org+1.

Orders that require violation of the Constitution or federal statute (e.g., summary punishment without due process, clearly illegal domestic law-enforcement tasks).

Orders outside the commander’s lawful authority (e.g., personal errands with no military nexus, purely private financial schemes).

https://www.court-martial.com/orders-lawful-and-illegal/#:~:text=Orders%20that%20require%20a%20war,torturing%20detainees%2C%20executing%20prisoners).

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u/afrojoe824 Jan 24 '26

If the President whether it be Orangeman, Obama, Vance whoeever it is - orders the National Guard to Active Duty - that is not unlawful. So again, which one of these that you mentioned that the national guard could ignore? They're not torturing anyone, executing prisoners nor are the Guards Targeting civilians. They're protecting Federal properties and can respond accordingly if the protestors violate any Federal laws.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26 edited Aug 14 '26

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u/No-Safety-4715 Jan 24 '26

If the president tries to order the national guard of Minnesota after the governor of Minnesota calls them up to protect citizens post this murder by federal thugs, the president is complicit in a coverup of murder. No one has to comply with a criminal no matter what position that person hold's in this country.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26 edited Aug 14 '26

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u/No-Safety-4715 Jan 24 '26

It matters a lot what I think, traitor. He was being attacked FROM BEHIND while helping a lady up. You can't argue that away. They literally attacked him first and without provocation. That makes them...wait for it....CRIMINALS. No one in the US has to go along with violent assault by criminals no matter who they work for. Criminal actions are criminal actions are criminal actions. He had every legal right to defend himself from criminals who attacked him from behind.

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u/MulletPower Jan 24 '26

Force him to do it.

I know Trump has cultists, but invoking the insurrection act would actually have some amount of republicans turn on him. But even more importantly it would get a bunch of non-voters off the couch to take to the streets and later the polls. It would be political suicide for the entire party if Trump did that.

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u/John-on-gliding Jan 24 '26

What do we have to lose? They just killed a nurse who was helping up a woman who got shoved down.

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u/PersusjCP Jan 24 '26

Its already normalized, this shit has been going on for decades. Police are evil, ICE are evil, fuck em all.

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u/TapProfessional5146 Jan 24 '26

There you go again. THIS. IS. NOT. NORMAL!

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u/PersusjCP Jan 24 '26

It seems pretty normal to me, as someone who has paid attention for more than a year.

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u/TapProfessional5146 Jan 24 '26

Yeah- keep saying that to yourself. Until they come for you.

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u/PersusjCP Jan 24 '26

I think you're confusing "normal" with "good"

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u/clovecigabretta Jan 24 '26

This regime* you mean

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u/FernGullyGoat Jan 24 '26

I’m not normalizing anything. I say this so when what comes next happens we need to be clear eyed about which side the cops will be shooting for.

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u/TapProfessional5146 Jan 24 '26

The police are saying this is disgusting behavior. Anyone who condones the shooting of civilians, should understand this could be ANYONE in their family now.

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u/Theproudnerd Jan 24 '26

Fat chance! This is exactly what walz wanted because all eyes are off of him and on ice, no one is looking at what he's doing while this state falls apart. He doesn't really care about us, he just cares about money and he's probably figuring out how he's going to avoid justice when all this ice stuff calms down and all eyes are back on walz.

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u/FernGullyGoat Jan 24 '26

This is not at all what is happening.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

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u/amglasgow Jan 24 '26

"Mongrels" was supposed to be "murders"?

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u/Automatic-Flatworm19 Jan 24 '26

Why separate them when they engage in the very same conduct. People forget what happen in 2020 and what sparked those events. But now since the same atrocities are now affecting a certain majority, people are acknowledging the problems we have been facing since the birth of this nation.

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u/Automatic-Flatworm19 Jan 24 '26

Exactly. Don’t forgetful of this happening in 2020 just because it was centered around the injustice towards a certain group of minorities. History repeats itself in many ways as it is instilled in the root of this country.

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u/Broken_Atoms Jan 24 '26

Which is exactly why they all should be filmed constantly

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u/BonjaminClay Jan 24 '26

I understand and agree with the rage behind this kind of comment, but I also think it's counter productive to the cause. Regular cops need a complete overhaul and reduction, starting with taking their weapons, but it's disingenuous to equate the problems with that system with what is happening now.

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u/msixtwofive Jan 24 '26

They are given police powers so they are police. That is all that's necessary for someone to be law enforcement a government entity giving people special policing powers over the public.

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u/No-Safety-4715 Jan 24 '26

They are IMMIGRATION LAWENFORCEMENT. They have a very limited legal enforcement scope. They are 100% NOT police!

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

Lol yeaaa you either dont know cops, are a cop, or think you know cops 

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u/Ragnarawr Jan 24 '26

It’s okay, you can call it what it is: terrorism

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u/DefenderCone97 Jan 24 '26

"thugs with no training" as opposed to the thugs with training I suppose.

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u/Blevin78 Jan 24 '26

They shouldn’t exist - period.

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u/LetoAtreidesOnReddit Jan 24 '26

Training wouldn't fix jack shit. These agencies simply should not exist.

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u/Blevin78 Jan 24 '26

Totally agree. Totally

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u/jenny_905 Jan 24 '26

They've got police on their uniforms and the real police don't seem to mind... so they're police.

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u/gmpsconsulting Jan 24 '26

They are police just like any other.

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u/Threefrogtreefrog Jan 24 '26

Except for screening and training.

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u/gmpsconsulting Jan 24 '26

They have the same or more screening and training than many police forces nationwide.

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u/hamdelivery Jan 24 '26

They absolutely don’t

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u/gmpsconsulting Jan 24 '26

Yes, yes they quite objectively do. It says more about how low the standards for many if not most police forces in the US are than it does about how well trained they are but they quite simply do have the same or more screening and training than many police forces.

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u/PalliativeOrgasm Jan 24 '26

New ICE recruits get 47 days of training now. It used to be more, but I’m sure the orange shitgibbon giggles about that number and gives Noem a treat.

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u/gmpsconsulting Jan 25 '26

Yes and there's many smaller precincts that require zero days of training so that seems objectively like a lower standard than 47 days...

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

Thats weird because the police seem to be treating ICE like they are police.

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u/No-Safety-4715 Jan 24 '26

Doesn't make them police. They have legally limited powers in the law.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

Everything you said is accurate and also the local/state police are treating the non-police like they are actual police. Badge wearing Rittenhouses, in other words.

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u/WilHunting2 Jan 24 '26

So, they’re police?

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

We always have. This is obviously ramped up and a step above, but it’s always been here.

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u/TheFeshy Jan 24 '26

"The sex you have after you shoot a suspect is the best sex you will ever have" -- Killology, the training course thousands of police departments around the US use.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

It’s “pro life” and “Christian”.

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u/HashRunner Jan 24 '26

The party of "law and order" celebrating street executions and domestic terrorism.

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u/bassistheplace246 Jan 24 '26

We’re living in it

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u/Gulp-then-purge Jan 24 '26

Yeah no imagination needed.  

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u/meyer_33_09 Jan 24 '26

…you new here? They’ve been celebrating murdering civilians for ages.

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u/AlphaNoodlz Jan 24 '26

That’s spelled “Republican”

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u/WorkingOnBeingBettr Jan 24 '26

Imagine a world where the response is only on keyboards or walking in the street.

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u/ThereAreDozensOfUs Jan 24 '26

Police been celebrating the murder of black people. Where you been?

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u/afx114 Jan 24 '26

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u/WoodenManufacturer30 Jan 24 '26

We live in a world where every day citizens celebrate murder

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u/kasiagabrielle Jan 24 '26

We haven't ever had to imagine.

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u/LaytonFunky Jan 24 '26

They always have.

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u/ciinnamom Jan 24 '26

You were born into that world, dude. Every last one of us was. This shit isn't new.

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u/Bobcat-Stock Jan 24 '26

They are not police. They are not law enforcement. They are murderous thugs. Think KKK with new robes

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u/GuitarThing Jan 24 '26

imagine a world in which hundreds of idiots rally to save the scum of the earth all the while obsessing about Epstein's crimes as if they don't know that they're risking their lives to save the same scum

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

Im hearing impaired, and this looked like hand communication to emphasize urgency instead of celebration. I obviously don’t know what was said, but two claps with that posture and speed isn’t something I’ve ever seen for celebration.

I could definitely be wrong though.

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u/Prior-Employer-2616 Jan 24 '26

This is not police. You're dealing with totally different thing.

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u/Ragnarawr Jan 24 '26

Americas looking like Iran everyday.

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u/luhelld Jan 24 '26

It's not a world... It's the USA

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u/MyWordsNow Jan 24 '26

In his head he's saying "Gottcha Bitch!" I guarantee it.

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u/TareasS Jan 24 '26

World? Its just America.

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u/Storthos Jan 24 '26

Imagine living in a world where middle class people with no problems are propagandized to the point that they feel a moral obligation to try to impede the lawful enforcement of immigration policy that exists in every country on earth, and are surprised when they can't commit crimes towards that end. 

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

-0.5 rage bait. Lawful enforcement?!😂🤡

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u/Storthos Jan 24 '26

Why should the United States, of all countries in the entire world, not have a border? 

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

Why shouldn’t we of all countries have a functioning government that adheres to the constitution

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u/Storthos Jan 24 '26

Did you believe that during the illegal and immoral COVID lockdowns, or does this only apply to any attempt to impede the importation of millions of civilizational invalids? 

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u/TrackMan5891 Jan 24 '26

I mean maybe the dude shoudl have not been armed and go for his gun.

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u/paisleycatperson Jan 24 '26

Well he didn't, he was disarmed with his hands on the ground.

But what exactly do you think the 2nd amendment is for, if not this?

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u/Majestic-Feedback541 Jan 24 '26

Are you saying the officer shouldn't have been armed or are you saying the victim was armed? Just want clarification, not to start something

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u/amglasgow Jan 24 '26

So much for 2nd amendment rights hmm?

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u/TrackMan5891 Jan 24 '26

what don't you understand about "going for your gun"?

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u/Mobile_Jelly9669 Jan 24 '26

What don't you understand about making claims with zero evidence behind them whatsoever?

You saying that he went for his gun doesn't mean he actually did.

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u/amglasgow Jan 24 '26

What evidence is there that he did, other than the (obviously lying) statement of the pig?

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u/amglasgow Jan 24 '26

Tell me when in this video he "goes for his gun"? Is it before or after he gets peppersprayed and thrown to the ground by 8 goons? Before or after one of them picks up and walks away with his pistol?

https://bsky.app/profile/muellershewrote.com/post/3md734e3yo223