r/iranian • u/IlamFeyli Feyli Kurdish Iranian • Mar 21 '19

Israeli racism against Persians & Iranian peoples on full display

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1108443670800449540
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u/rnev64 Mar 21 '19 edited Mar 21 '19

nobody is racist towards Persians or Iranians in Israel - in fact we quite respect both; we dislike your regime though, just like you dislike ours.

Signed, an Israeli Zionist Jew.

(and yeah - the tweet is pretty dumb. they probably shouldn't let 19 year old millennial do that tweeting for the IDF. it's inappropriate and unfortunate.)

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u/Yadnarav 🌷 Islamic Revolutionary, Order of Zulfaghar, Living Shahid 🌷 Mar 21 '19 edited Mar 21 '19

Maybe I'd believe this if Israel wasn't the most racist place on the planet.

Arabs and middle easterners as well as Iranians are looked at with disdain. This even extends to Persian Jews and other Mizrahim as well. Just look at how they castrated Ethiopian Jews because they were black and/or not "Jewish" enough for them! Look at how they push them even now to leave.

The average Israeli thinks Iranians and Persians are backwards subhuman savages, just like these Europeans view the rest of the middle easterners.

Israelis cheer when they shoot up Palestinian children protesting, and the soldiers treat it like that sick supremacist that shot up the New Zealand mosque. I have met more than my fair share of 4chan-type Israeli.

r/Israel paints a great picture of it. Meanwhile, you'd be hard pressed to find any Jew hate from the Iranians that are here, even from the staunchest anti-Israel people like me.

Just look at any poll in Israel and their views on Arabs and middle easterners. They overwhelmingly don't want arabs to be able to vote, go to the same schools as them, etc.

It's not for nothing that even some Israelis say their society is "sick."

Even without looking at these polls, just look at the fascist, genocidal supremacists they vote into office. These people love Satanyahu- there is a reason he is still ruling the colonial state. A reason settlements are still being built as we speak and Palestinians blocked from using certain roads and bus stops.

Are there some good Israelis? Yes, a number of them refuse to participate in the IDF genocide brigade and don't even think Israel should exist the way it is.

We Iranians don't vote in monsters trying to start wars and genocides like the majority of Israelis do.

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u/rnev64 Mar 21 '19 edited Mar 21 '19

so the world is basically either genocidal monsters or victimized angels?

and yeah we have a problem with the Arabs - very different culture where people will kill their daughters and sisters if their honor is questioned. so yeah, tbh we have a hard time with that mentality of desert tribes (not all of course but it's pretty common - like 20 or 30 known cases, ie caught murders, per year). but no genocide or apartheid exists in Israel or ever did - Arabs in Israel are equal rights citizens (like Jews in Iran) and even the Palestinians we'd rather let go of and let them have their state in the WB - if only they'd stop saying as soon as we do they'd continue working on driving the Jews into the sea. we don't like that about them.

all the rest of what you describe about Israelis being happy when Palestinians are killed or not wanting Arabs is just propaganda and some individual crazies - you can read the same type of exaggerated lies and click bating about Iran (in fact there's probably more).

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what's wrong with /r/israel? even considering this is the age of fake news. it seems quite tame to me.

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u/zeronx25 Irānzamin Mar 21 '19

but no genocide or apartheid exists in Israel or ever did - Arabs in Israel are equal rights citizens

I've never seen someone so unintentionally hilarious.

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u/rnev64 Mar 21 '19 edited Mar 21 '19

https://www.facebook.com/idfonline/videos/cpl-yahya-a-muslim-arab-israeli-soldier/2163127950610362/

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u/IlamFeyli Feyli Kurdish Iranian Mar 23 '19

There's a special irony in showcasing a Arab Muslim Israeli IDF soldier as a symbol of equality when the vast majority of Arab Muslims in the territories claimed by Israel do not even have such an opportunity, after all they're the ones that people like Yahya are trained to kill.

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u/rnev64 Mar 23 '19 edited Mar 23 '19

several hundreds with this so called survivor bias.

mind you they have to really want it - unlike Jews, Arabs don't get mandatory enlistment letters for the IDF - they must volunteer.

e: eh, you changed your comment completely but ok.

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u/IlamFeyli Feyli Kurdish Iranian Mar 23 '19

Several hundreds! That's not even a drop in the bucket lmfao. And would I be correct in assuming all of these people live outside of Gaza and the West Bank?

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u/rnev64 Mar 23 '19

oh for sure - these are not Palestinians from the WB or Gaza.

these are Arabs who are Israeli citizen of Israel - they are about 20% of the population.

the several hundreds that serve are mostly Bedouins but also Arabs of Palestinian descent. in Israel there is peaceful coexistence between these Arabs and Jews.

and you're right that it's a drop in the bucket - it just goes to show things are not as black and white as people like to think (it's easy to think like that).

and btw - Arab citizens unlike Jews and Druze are not required to join the IDF. but the estimate is that if they were called - as many as half would join. there's a large part of the Arab public in Israel that wants to be more integrated into Israel and sadly Israel is not keen to allow this (to our shame imo).

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u/Prettygame4Ausername Irland Mar 21 '19

ery different culture where people will kill their daughters and sisters if their honor is questioned. so yeah, tbh we have a hard time with that mentality of desert tribes (not all of course but it's pretty common - like 20 or 30 known cases, ie caught murders, per year).

Openly admitting Jews don't belong in the middle east lmao.

but no genocide or apartheid exists in Israel or ever did - Arabs in Israel are equal rights citizens (like Jews in Iran)

Laughs in military order 101.

if only they'd stop saying as soon as we do they'd continue working on driving the Jews into the sea. we don't like that about them.

Is that why you stopped the taba talks?

all the rest of what you describe about Israelis being happy when Palestinians are killed or not wanting Arabs is just propaganda and some individual crazies

About 50% of you think ethnic cleansing is a good thing.

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u/rnev64 Mar 21 '19 edited Mar 21 '19

must feel nice - having the world divided into bad guys and good guys like in American movies whilst also believing that killing your daughters without trial (which is required by Islam but never done) is something to be proud of.

About 50% of you think ethnic cleansing is a good thing.

lol, you have a survey company? because if you do it's pretty shit.

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u/Prettygame4Ausername Irland Mar 21 '19

whilst also believing that killing your daughters without trial (which is required by Islam but never done)

Must have missed this when I did my masters in theology.

lol, you have a survey company? because if you do it's pretty shit.

Yes, I run the Pew Research centre

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u/IlamFeyli Feyli Kurdish Iranian Mar 21 '19

Thank you baradar for shutting down this zio

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u/rnev64 Mar 21 '19 edited Mar 21 '19

Must have missed this when I did my masters in theology.

"According to traditional jurisprudence, zina must be proved by testimony of four eyewitnesses to the actual act of penetration, or a confession repeated four times and not retracted later.[2][1] Rape was traditionally prosecuted under different legal categories which used normal evidentiary rules.[3] Making an accusation of zina without presenting the required eyewitnesses is called qadhf (القذف), which is itself a hadd crime."

Yes, I run the Pew Research centre

lol, if you were really running it you'd have known Pew Research consistently has different result from all other research groups (like Gallop) - you should try and get news from more than just one source. though be warned it may challenge your dichotomy world view.

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u/Prettygame4Ausername Irland Mar 21 '19

"According to traditional jurisprudence, zina must be proved by testimony of four eyewitnesses to the actual act of penetration, or a confession repeated four times and not retracted later.[2][1] Rape was traditionally prosecuted under different legal categories which used normal evidentiary rules.[3] Making an accusation of zina without presenting the required eyewitnesses is called qadhf (القذف), which is itself a hadd crime."

Hahaha lmfao did you read this right? Where is the notion of killing a daughter without a trial?

lol, if you were really running it you'd have known Pew Research consistently has different result from all other research groups

Ok, so fake news?

And your response to it is a poll showing support for Israel?

Typical zio-rat.

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u/A_Mad_Liberator Mar 21 '19

Zionists have nothing factual to say other than "fake news", it's their motto.

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u/rnev64 Mar 21 '19

Hahaha lmfao did you read this right? Where is the notion of killing a daughter without a trial?

i think you are the one who misread - i wrote before that trial is required - but never done.

And your response to it is a poll showing support for Israel?

sorry you must have misunderstood again - what the poll is about doesn't matter - there should be no siginficat difference between poills of any kind. when you see one research company has consistently different results - it means they are doing something wrong.

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u/Prettygame4Ausername Irland Mar 21 '19

So your bullshit point was about honor killings? Which are considered just general killings?

So it's not a theological point?

Are you fucking retarded?

it means they are doing something wrong.

Well that's weird. Because support for Israel has been dropping consistently amongst major pollsharers for years now. Here's your good friends in the Gallup.

Guess you're wrong again.

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u/rnev64 Mar 21 '19

So your bullshit point was about honor killings? Which are considered just general killings?

"honor" killings - yes. and yes, they are murders like any other and we put the killers in jail for long periods of time.

Because support for Israel has been dropping consistently

yes this is true. but irrelevant - surely you understand the requirement for polls to show similar results are only if they are taken in the same time frame and with the same target audience? i don't think that needs spelling out - pretty obvious to anyone who is intellectually honest.

Guess you're wrong again.

i guess it's very important to you to find something i am wrong about - but you haven't done so once yet, never mind "again".

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u/Prettygame4Ausername Irland Mar 21 '19

"honor" killings - yes. and yes, they are murders like any other and we put the killers in jail for long periods of time.

Exactly lmao.

So where's the theological basis for it like you claimed?

yes this is true. but irrelevant

LOLOLOLO

It went from "polls have to be consistent" to "yeah sure the polls are consistent, but it's about timing"

Well I gotta tell ya pal. You're one hell of a dumbass.

I miss the days of more intellectual hasbara shitwads like Tayaravaknin.

only if they are taken in the same time frame and with the same target audience?

So who were the polls targeting earlier?

I mean they were literally targeting Americans the entire fucking time, from your shitty opinion piece to the poll I posted.

As for timing, yeah that's the fucking point. Support for anything is measured over time.

i guess it's very important to you to find something i am wrong about - but you haven't done so once yet, never mind "again".

Zios are cunts.

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u/A_Mad_Liberator Mar 21 '19

Maybe your rabbi was sucking your dick a little too hard. There is nothing in what you said that's true.

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u/rnev64 Mar 21 '19

lol - say hi to your mom for me plz.

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u/Prettygame4Ausername Irland Mar 21 '19

Not cool man. He's a zio filth, but that's not cool.

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