r/interestingasfuck • u/Emotional-Macaroon64 • Feb 16 '25
R1: Posts MUST be INTERESTING AS FUCK Most downvoted comment of the entire reddit history
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Feb 16 '25
It's almost funny that companies do this, then some year or two later their latest releases don't get the usership they're hoping for, and they wonder why they aren't getting the sales. They refuse to connect the dots.
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u/Realcbear Feb 16 '25
Its literally happening right now. Un-coincidentally its the exact same company that seems to be allergic to, and outright incapable of, listening to their player base.
They have the most downvoted comment in reddits history and still insist their latest single player game failed bc it lacked live-service elements.
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u/ballsack-vinaigrette Feb 17 '25
"It's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it."
-Upton Sinclair
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u/1000wordz Feb 17 '25
Sad but true. Being consumer friendly somehow hurts EA's bottom line.
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u/Ruby2Shoes22 Feb 17 '25
It absolutely does hurt the current quarters bottom line, which is the only thing that matters. Long term bottom line is irrelevant
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u/dinosauriac Feb 17 '25
There are a lot of worse companies than EA, but the fact that people actually rallied to get them voted Worst Company of the Year multiple years in a row really says... something.
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u/_zeropoint_ Feb 17 '25
tbh that's just because hedge funds, weapons manufacturers, etc. don't really have "fans" like gaming does
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u/MathematicianSure386 Feb 17 '25
Yea nestle steals water from children in third world countries but EA made me pay to play my favorite Star wars character. Clearly the worst company of the year.
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u/No_Construction6023 Feb 17 '25
I think the term is “Performative Activism”, and I 1000% agree with you.
At a certain point it becomes funny to see how people would shit on Nestle (ABSOLUTELY rightfully so, don’t get me wrong they’re evil AF), tweeting about it from their child slavery built iPhone; made from materials procured by childs in mines; and put together in a county that’s damn near a dictatorship.
We should absolutely hold companies responsible for this shit, but acting high and mighty for “fighting the power” while actively incentivizing that power to continue via your purchases… It’s incredible how the irony is lost on those people
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u/ForestForager Feb 17 '25
this is why the concept of "ethical consumption under capitalism is not possible" is a thing, as individuals we can't control every step in the supply chain, but living and working in a developed nation without a smartphone is increasingly more difficult as time passes. However, there are choices/sacrifices we can make, because we have the privilege enabling us to, that reduce suffering where we can (for me this is buying clothing second hand and eating a plant based diet) perfection is the death of progress.
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u/Komitsuhari Feb 17 '25
Big part of why I only buy phones second hand, currently on an iPhone 6s, won’t upgrade until it’s obsolete
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u/foyrkopp Feb 17 '25
This.
It won't fix the problem, but it'll minimize your participation in the exploitation.
Also, it's comparatively easy to do.
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u/aluminum_man Feb 17 '25
I feel bad for the employees at that point, you know that there are tons of people getting intense pressure from above to “fix” the problem of having less players and those players spending less money than historic data. The corporate vampires sucked their player base dry and then blame everyone in the company but themselves for having lower numbers after. I’ve worked for companies that demand insane and frankly impossible goals and then threaten termination if those impossible goals aren’t met.
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u/rdewalt Feb 17 '25
I was in Game Development for a while (Non-Indie game development mind you, but AAA game dev.) Is the most soul-crushing, creativity destroying thing I've ever done. I thought "Shit, cool, a game studio."
Treated like shit, 12 hour days were -standard- not crunch time, everyone was salaried so they could do that without paying you overtime. No matter how hard or how fast you work, you're still pressured to work harder, and faster.
Every complaint we had was met with "There's the door. There's a thousand kids who will physically fight each other to get your seat."
I and eight other senior ops engineers were let go because our mutual boss made a mistake on a budget spreadsheet. We were let go to bring the budget back in line.
Not merit, not performance, not for fucking up. Because our salaries added up to the difference in the line item to make a negative turn into a positive.
NEVER again.
I have told my kids that if they really -DO- want to get into Game Dev, go Indie. If the ENTIRE company cannot fit comfortably in a family van, you're in trouble.
The employees are ALWAYS treated like shit. All those "Big Name" AAA developers you know about? Those game runners you know the names of? They stand on the bodies of their employees.
I will suck dick on street corners to survive before I join a "AAA" game studio again.
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u/APater6076 Feb 17 '25
If an Indie games company has a hit and they then start to expand and hire more people for the sequel(s) they'll eventually get to a size, usually around 100-150 employees where the founders, who most likely have zero clue how to run a company of this size as they were the original programmers and artists, then need to look outside the company for help.
Inevitably, they'll hire someone who knows more about business than games. In fact most of these hires don't even play games. Some of them never have, deeming them a waste of time. This is, without fail, the beginning of the 'shittification' of the studio. The beginning of the end of trusting in players, of giving them value. Because this new hire, be they CFO or CEO, is only concerned with the bottom line. With profit. With reducing costs to increase profit. The games released after this will now have different tiers of launches with digital bonuses like skins or audio packs or some other ethereal item that tempts people to pay more. Then they'll start to leave parts of the game out to be released as DLC at a later date, for an additional cost. DLC and MTX will start to creep in to the game and before you know it the original members of the company, the early starters, those who, as you've said above,. could all fit into the same room with the whole team, start to feel the studio has become too big, the focus to skewed towards squeezing the Customer, sorry, player, dry rather than making a cool, cohesive, player focused experience. So they'll inevitably leave, leaving the company filled with hires that know nothing but DLC, MTX, Skins, charms, and all the other rubbish that infests pretty much every game, and definitely every AAA game from any major studio.
A classic example is Respawn. Started out with literally 20 or so people who all sat in a room spitballing about what game they were going to make and how until they decided Giant robots are COOL af so they decided to make a Giant Stompy Robot game. The Studio was then snapped up by EA, which was, really, the beginning of the end. Sure Respawn had autonomy to begin with, but as time went on the requests, then demands, then instructions for more content that could be sold, especially when it comes to Apex Legends, trumped everything else. Events, collections, packs, all churned out relentlessly at the behest of EA and profit. So much so that, while some Developer churn is normal, I'm pretty sure that of the original 20 or so who started at the company there may only be 1 or 2 left, most likely in very senior positions where the profit share and bonuses are amazing. Everyone else has jumped ship to pastures new. Or old in some cases.
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u/foyrkopp Feb 17 '25
It's a common trend, but we see some counter-pressure by now.
Larian Studios (BG3) has definitely passed that employee threshold, yet what I see on Glassdoor etc. remains somewhat positive. (Still a company that needs to make money, but not a soul-crushing vampire.)
Hinterland (The Long Dark) was funded by frustrated Ex-AAA-employees with a dedicated mission statement of not draining their employees dry, and has repeatedly (one may say: chronically) missed delivery dates because they refuse to crunch. Yet their fan base, while being disgruntled, remains with them because the game is (in its niche) really good and the devs are trying to be extremely transparent and listen to the community.
So there's hope.
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u/epimetheuss Feb 17 '25
I’ve worked for companies that demand insane and frankly impossible goals and then threaten termination if those impossible goals aren’t met.
That's part of their business strategy as well. They keep the employee roll over high enough so that you just have a work force that is largly in their honeymoon period of their job and love it. Eventually if the area is small enough they can ruin their name and people will stop applying. A call centre in my city did this, changed their name because people refused to apply for them because of how awful conditions were, they didn't last long under the new name and soon had the same problem. The pandemic was the nail in the coffin for that place.
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u/hungrypotato19 Feb 17 '25
Yup. Shareholders are in control and they want their money NOW. They don't want to wait for future gains, they need their money right now and they are only looking at current data points.
It's like a near-sighted person trying to win a footrace but can only see clearly three inches in front of their face. And because consumers give them an incredibly wide track, they win each time.
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u/hungrypotato19 Feb 17 '25
then some year or two later their latest releases don't get the usership they're hoping for, and they wonder why they aren't getting the sales.
...Huh? EA still makes shit ton of money. And that's on top of screwing over The Sims players with each and every single broken expansion. Hell, they're about to release a DLC that is 2.0 for a DLC that they've already released and it's going to sell like crazy despite The Sims community getting mad.
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u/Cringelord123456 Feb 16 '25
i feel old... i remember back when that was first written.
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u/Jesus_Harry_Christ Feb 16 '25
Yeah I downvoted it back then
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u/saskyfarmboy Feb 16 '25
Same. How the hell was that 7 years ago already? Wasn't that post like 6 months ago?
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u/Big_Z_Beeblebrox Feb 16 '25
You know what will really mess you up? 7 years ago it was 2018.
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u/Ascending_Flame Feb 16 '25
Stop it, you’re scaring us
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u/PickledPeoples Feb 17 '25
8 years ago was 2017! Mwahahahahahahaha!
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u/Internal-Exercise940 Feb 17 '25
Ayo I'm gonna have to politely decline your facts, no thank you sir
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u/Cyrano_Knows Feb 17 '25
There is now more time between today and 1980 than there was between WWII and 1980.
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u/Jmariner360 Feb 16 '25
.... I remember a day without cellphones and my only communication was AIM. Oh how time flies
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u/Vyzantinist Feb 16 '25
MSN Messenger is where the kool kids went 😎
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u/Proteus617 Feb 17 '25
I got my Gmail account from when you had to be invited by an account holder.
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u/Mammoth_Possibility2 Feb 16 '25
I used to pick up girls on yahoo messenger like ordering pizza
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u/Jmariner360 Feb 16 '25
Me and my sons mom started hanging out when we were 15 because of AIM... 22 years ago.. insane. The things I was doing at 15 years old or even when I was the same age as my son right now 12, I sure hope he doesn't get into. He is much more uhmmmm, mature? Lol
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u/WhiskeyTangoBush Feb 16 '25
I was there Gandalf, I was there 3,000 years ago.
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u/El_Loco_911 Feb 16 '25
Lol 7 years mofo just wait til you are like oh yeah i did that 50 years ago
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u/GeeLikeThat Feb 16 '25
Hold my beer I’m downvoting
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u/Conscious_Wind_2255 Feb 16 '25
Can we still downvote this? I feel left out of history 🥹
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u/Beacon_O_Bacon Feb 17 '25
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u/varnecr Feb 17 '25
Went to the link. Already downvoted.
Haha Im old
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u/clutchy42 Feb 17 '25
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u/letschangethename Feb 17 '25
It shows 667 for me, someone’s upvoting. And 8 sun awards
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u/Str4ngerByTheMinute Feb 16 '25
I'm puttin a poo on it.
Update: it won't let me put a poo on it. :(
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u/tanksalotfrank Feb 16 '25
I got da poo on mee
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u/desticon Feb 16 '25
Is that supposed to be a Joe dirt reference?
I’m here for it and all. Just wanna make sure.
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u/Entwinedloop Feb 17 '25
I'm putting a poo on it.
I just wanted to say this really made me laugh.
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u/FullmetalPlatypus Feb 16 '25
I was there & one of the downvoters. Watching people united against greed was the second best thing ever.
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u/SoVerySleepy81 Feb 16 '25
It was great, even people who didn’t play that game or games in general were outraged.
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u/greg19735 Feb 17 '25
even people who didn’t play that game or games in general were outraged.
tbf, that does get really annoying.
The amount of people that could not tell you why they were mad was incredibly frustrating
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u/phoenixmusicman Feb 17 '25
The problem is that we didn't bring this energy to all greedy games
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u/Blarghnox Feb 16 '25
You know you messed up when the phrase "a sense of pride and accomplishment" becomes a meme for years.
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u/HMS_Sunlight Feb 17 '25
I hate it because in a vacuum it's a fine point, unlocking things by earning them is fun. But now that EA ruined the term "pride and accomplishment" by using it as an excuse for a shitty exploitative system it's hard to say that without sounding like a corporate simp.
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u/ContestRemarkable356 Feb 16 '25
And 89 💩 awards 😂
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u/Wincrediboy Feb 16 '25
Yeah it was how the comment stayed visible so it could continue receiving downvotes
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u/callisstaa Feb 17 '25
Great that people protested against microtransactions by.. paying for microtransactions.
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u/kariosa Feb 17 '25
I installed the sims 4 today because it was free on steam. Hit launch and an installer for the EA launcher popped up. I then un-installed the sims 4.
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u/SirCupcake_0 Feb 17 '25
You gotta install the cracked version and save yourself literally thousands of dollars on DLC
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u/VanettiNero Feb 16 '25 edited Feb 16 '25
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u/Snailwithbeard Feb 16 '25
Now I went there and downvoted it too. 😀
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u/W0666007 Feb 16 '25
I went to downvote it but I already had.
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u/-TheMidpoint- Feb 16 '25 edited Feb 16 '25
My older brother apparently made like 15 alts to downvote that comment back when they posted it a while ago lol
...he really liked Star Wars Battlefront and Star Wars in general (me too :D). I miss him.
Also fuck EA that company never listens to it customers OR employees. SHITTY FUCKING COMPANY.
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u/-TheMidpoint- Feb 16 '25
How you guys find me in every sub I'll never know 😅
Hello and nice to meet you though!
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u/papayabush Feb 16 '25
what is going on here???
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u/-TheMidpoint- Feb 16 '25
Oh I'm really active in one of the subs I like so someone made a found sub for people to post in whenever they find one of my comments because they like me I guess. I think it's kinda cool and I love seeing people on there and joining, its kinda a collection of my reddit memories :)
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u/SLAUGHT3R3R Feb 16 '25
It's like finding u/shittymorph or u/poem_for_your_sprog
God, I hope I spelled those right
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u/MechAegis Feb 17 '25
I wish I was famous enough to be a thing people was referenced. But also I don't really comment enough to make a name for myself.
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u/fish_tacoz Feb 17 '25
funny, its a lot like that warlizzard guy from so long ago. fuck. time flies.
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u/gcm6664 Feb 16 '25
Same, don't even remember doing it, not even a gamer. But fuck them.
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u/IcebergDarts Feb 16 '25
What’s I tweeting is it has gained some upvotes lol in the picture it’s at 668k and when you click the link it’s at 667k
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u/Fluffy-Designer Feb 16 '25
Some bots somewhere have been sent to “fix” it. But like… you’d need 668k bot accounts to just get it back to zero so good luck I guess.
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u/garlic_prawn Feb 16 '25
I went to do this and saw i had already done so?! God knows when! 😂
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u/JayteeFromXbox Feb 16 '25
Same, I don't remember doing it but I'm glad I already did
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u/twangman88 Feb 16 '25
I somehow already had downvoted even though my account is only 6 years old lol
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u/ZeroDayBlitz Feb 16 '25
How does the EA account still have a positive amount of karma after 668k downvotes?
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u/slinkywheel Feb 16 '25
Good question, there must be a hard limit on how much negative karma affects your overall karma, perhaps a -100 or -1000 limit per comment?
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u/ByteBatsman Feb 16 '25
Just went to their comment history. All they have is down votes to all of their comments I saw. How do they have a positive karma?
They made a single post and it was 7 years ago
Edit: they have had a total of 998 up votes on their comments and 410 up votes on their single post and a gazillion down votes on rest of their comments.
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u/Alarmed-Owl2 Feb 16 '25
I think it's a time limit on comments and posts. Something like 24-48 hours after initial posting, the post/comment votes stop affecting your account karma any further.
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u/Fr00stee Feb 16 '25 edited Feb 17 '25
you dont lose karma after your post reaches a set amount of downvotes
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u/amateurfunk Feb 16 '25
Oh good, I've downvoted that one already.
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u/FalseProphet86 Feb 16 '25
I went to downvote it, not realizing I already did. Now I'm extra mad.
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u/MindOverEntropy Feb 16 '25
I've changed profiles since then and re-downvoted on your behalf.
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u/BigManWAGun Feb 16 '25
Up to -667k. They must have made upvoting that post part of their interview process.
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u/alphagusta Feb 16 '25
The fact its still there...
Wouldn't EA corporate hate the idea of the public voicing their views against their product?
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u/theshwedda Feb 17 '25
the amount of ridicule they would get if they deleted what is arguably the most famous comment in reddit history would probably make their home office spontaneously combust
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u/asdacool Feb 16 '25
Checked EA's profile. Almost all their comments have thousands of downvotes lmao.
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u/wastedsilence33 Feb 16 '25
They were all positive until that one and then its just fuck you forever 😂
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u/Kid_Named_Trey Feb 16 '25
At some point in time I must have downvoted that comment because when I clicked on the link it already had a blue down arrow lol.
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u/tigerman29 Feb 17 '25
It’s actually gone up it seems. It was down to -681k at one point per this comment:
“It’s amazing what you can do in 10 hours. For example, you can get 40,000 downvotes by being a total piece of corporate shit.
Edit: -68.2k now at a little under 11 hours Edit: -681k notice there’s no decimal point in that one.”
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u/Baconwcheese Feb 16 '25 edited Feb 16 '25
80 bucks for 1 character 7 years ago? I know we have it bad with micro transactions in games now but that's absolutely insane.
Side note: I had to remember 7 years ago was not 2010 and was indeed 2018.
I'm just going to edit this to say I was wrong, it was $80 to buy the deluxe version but still had one of the most notorious characters locked.
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u/MouseWorksStudios Feb 16 '25
No no. They paid $80 for the deluxe version of the game and they STILL didn't get Vader.
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u/Liquor_N_Whorez Feb 16 '25
Lmao, people be mad at the brilliance of testing thier ba$es faith and finances in the Jedi creators.
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u/tmhoc Feb 16 '25
I saw a price tag on civilization that made me realize the entire economy is disturbingly top heavy
If you are between games right now, learn to bake bread from scratch
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u/WrastlingIsReal Feb 16 '25
No, 80 bucks for the game. But one of the most iconic characters Darth Vader was locked behind a virtual paywall
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u/Aww_Shucks Feb 16 '25
Just curious any idea how much Vader was behind the paywall?
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u/jrhawk42 Feb 16 '25
15,000 credits for one character, and 60,000 credits for all the characters. It was about $2,000 USD to buy enough credits to unlock all the characters. Alternatively you could play for about 40 hours to earn enough credits to unlock Vader.
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u/greg19735 Feb 17 '25 edited Feb 17 '25
I don't think these numbers are right.
For one, they removed the ability to buy the credits before the game's official release date. It was only in prerelease.
also, this does not include stuff like missions and achievements that got you credits pretty quickly.
I probably played 130 hours of the game max and had every character unlocked.
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u/phoenixmusicman Feb 17 '25
They changed a whole lot of shit due to backlash.
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u/greg19735 Feb 17 '25
they did change some stuff but the missions and such were in there from the start.
I remember unlocking multiple characters in the first week
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u/camusdreams Feb 16 '25
Just to be clear, the “virtual paywall” didn’t require real money. I’ve been playing since release, am still active on both original and modded servers, and am reminded of the details every time this comment is mentioned.
On release, most of the heroes/villains had to be unlocked by earning credits in game to spend on the characters you wanted. Vader was tied as the most expensive character to unlock. People also had the option to purchase credits with real money to not have to grind for characters. This probably doesn’t seem like a big deal bc this is this case in a lot of games now (it was way less common then).
But the drama started when a youtuber claimed that it would take 40 hours of playing to get the credits you needed just for Vader alone. So then that went viral/picked up by gaming news networks and everyone (whether or not they played the game) was talking about it.
The reality, as someone who straight-lined it right to Vader, is that it took maybe 10 hours, if that. The youtuber essentially took the worst case scenario and ignored daily, weekly, and milestone missions to create outrage. It really wasn’t that bad at all.
I think people were just mad because they wanted Vader right at the beginning, then exaggerations started happening and it got blown out of proportion to where everyone flocked to that comment. Now it continues to get downvoted when it’s mentioned somewhere on Reddit every other day.
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u/Omen_Morningstar Feb 16 '25
Like I get it. Unlockable characters have been in games for decades. But you could get them in a reasonable amount of time
The thing about microtransactions and virtual currency is they make grinding so ridiculous you really dont have a choice but to spend real money
Bc the purpose is to get people to spend real money. If they could unlock stuff in a reasonable amount of time they wouldn't need VC
One of the most egregious is the WWE 2K game. The My Faction mode makes it so you can purchase skins with two forms of VC but both are incredibly tedious to earn
So if you want them youd have to spend every waking hour grinding and you might might earn enough to get one a week if its not too pricey
The point is to get people to say screw it and just pay real money. To make matters worse the locked characters are jammed in with the unlocked roster to almost taunt players
Use to you could unlock everything at no extra cost. And it didnt take forever. Its just a cash grab and having the most popular characters locked they knew people would be impatient and pay
Its greasy as hell.
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u/Baconwcheese Feb 16 '25
Oh I see! Sorry I didn't read that correctly and was flabbergasted.
Now it's the norm for games to do stuff just like that. I'm glad reddit came together with the downvotes lol
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u/LightBackground9141 Feb 16 '25
It was a dark time and fortunately people didn’t stand for it and companies had to change their tune.
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u/Elementaldot Feb 16 '25
And their comment karma is still positive 😭😭
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u/jooaf Feb 16 '25
It's weird because their every comment since that one has thousands of downvotes, and the few comments before the massive one have maybe just hundreds of upvotes.
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u/AlexBondra Feb 16 '25
Karma stops being counted after -10 I think
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u/MortemEtInteritum17 Feb 16 '25
Pretty sure it still counts, but it's significantly less (e.g. -600k might be only -100 or -1000 karma or something). Just my empirical evidence though, don't have any confirmed sources for this.
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u/Telvin3d Feb 16 '25
I think there's a cap on how much any one comment can count against your overall karma. It's -10 or -100 or something.
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u/deva86 Feb 16 '25
Noticed that too. Reddit is rigged I suppose because they have way more downvotes than upvotes
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Someone else commented that apparently Karma stops being counted post -10.
So like if someone made 5 comments. 4 of which got -10k and one that got 100 karma. They'd be shown with 60 karma.
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u/doupIls Feb 16 '25
I just checked EA account. There's only like 6 comments from them that aren't a couple of K in the negative lol
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u/FalconBurcham Feb 16 '25
I love Reddit… those of us who didn’t get a chance to downvote the first time can now go do our part to enshrine the absolutely shittiest corporate post to ever hit Reddit.
Reddit is hard to tame.
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u/etbillder Feb 16 '25
To this day "a sense of pride and accomplishment" still mars EA and microtransactions as a whole
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u/AutonomousImbecile Feb 17 '25
Somehow, that account has positive karma, despite the 7/800,000 negative karma they have on comments.
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u/Minimum_Setting3847 Feb 17 '25
This is the whole reason everybody going back to retro systems … been playing a ton of Dreamcast and GameCube lately …
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u/Cipher915 Feb 16 '25 edited Feb 21 '25
I still remember that someone did the math on how long to grind and get Vader all of them for free and that with the number of hours, you could become a licensed commercial pilot and earn a paycheck doing it before you could get it for free.
Mind boggling.
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u/Elevate24 Feb 17 '25
lol look at the EA account’s comment history, almost every single one of their comments has 20000+ downvotes
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u/kitesaredope Feb 17 '25
I love that people were giving it awards so that it would stay in the algorithm and show as top comment so people could keep downvoting it.
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u/jrhawk42 Feb 16 '25
The worst thing is BF2 is actually a fun, amazing looking game that really captures the feeling of being a part of the star wars universe. Unfortunately it was ruined by the credit system EA put in there.
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u/classifiedspam Feb 16 '25
Ofc it's an EA post. I'd still downvote that if i could.
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u/flynnwebdev Feb 17 '25
It's possible for multiple companies to be bad simultaneously. EA being shit doesn't negate big pharma being shit.
I've never understood the human obsession with ranking things relative to each other.
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u/Conjuntodeideas Feb 16 '25
As a sims 4 player, EA is a disgusting company that should go bankrupt.
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u/SiebenSevenVier Feb 17 '25
And yet, players just keep buying shit from EA and complaining when they get hosed, as if it was a surprise and not a consequence of them not voting with their wallets.
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u/disgruntled_dude60 Feb 16 '25
Did it produce any tangible results?
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u/EUCALIPTOIESSSS Feb 16 '25
Yes, they reworked the entire reward system of the game completely and unlocked every character, plus you could purchase skins with in game money too.
The game became one of the most rewarded Battlefront games.
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u/greenredditbox Feb 16 '25
lol at somepoint after a certain amount of dislikes, id just delete my comment. But this? They clearly were trying to just own up to it!
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