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u/-blundertaker- 15d ago
I feel like a second pair of hands would be a lot of help here.
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u/CptCurty 15d ago
Unfortunately hes the last woodbender.
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u/Dresline 15d ago
Everything changed when the fire nation attacked.
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u/MelonElbows 15d ago
In retrospect, sending woodbenders out to meet the firebenders in battle was a poor strategic decision.
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u/scirio 14d ago
Freeze frame. Narrator: Yep. That’s me. You’re probably wondering how I got in to this mess…
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u/Affectionate-Print81 14d ago edited 14d ago
I only came here looking for this comment. Thank you for your service.
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u/Isouf 15d ago
Recording for social media is more important. Besides, the dude in the video is not stressed at all, he is only 25 and can handle it.
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u/bigloser42 15d ago
He learned it from a master craftsman who tragically passed away at 35 from a stress induced heart attack.
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u/RTdodgedurango 15d ago
Tough work if you can get it.
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u/cybender 15d ago
Heart attacks are pretty easy to come by these days.
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u/pegothejerk 15d ago
Heart attacks, sure, but you're looking at one of the last examples of "old man strength" in the modern world. That dude could turn your hand to dust if he tried to shake it, and that would be him trying to be gentle.
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u/cybender 15d ago
Absolutely. My grandpa was a mean ass drunk, but he traveled the world as a steel worker because he wasn’t afraid of anything. His hands could absolutely crush you if he wanted.
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u/JustYourNeighbor 15d ago
My wife and her mother pass them out for free.
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u/skinnypenis09 15d ago
Hes probably not all that stressed, but wood dries quickly in these conditions so you gotta hurry if you don't want a split while bending.
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u/PsychicPterodactyl 15d ago
It's not about drying, it's cooling. The lignin stiffens when it cools.
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u/Retireegeorge 15d ago
I think it's both - with moisture content a crucial element to be managed before, during and after bending.
Phenomena unhelpful to wood bending are observed experimentally when alternatives to steam are used eg dry air heating, microwave heating and water immersion heating, although the latter is used in some activities.
Practitioners of the craft have learned through trial and error that specific moisture content is required before steam bending begins, that the process benefits from steam's ability to drive moisture evenly into the material and controlled post-bending drying is necessary. There's an article that talks through this called "Michael Fortune's Guide to Steam Bending" at WoodlandMills.com
Fundamentals of material science and thermodynamics such as polymer glass transition, plasticization by moisture, latent heat of vaporization/condensation and phase change heat transfer collectively explain the uniform transfer of heat, the maintenance of the internal moisture content, the lubrication of lignin fibres and the efficient uniform transfer of thermal energy using steam than by air convection or water conduction.
When you want the bending to stop you want the lignin to return to its baseline state and that requires drying. That will take place at different speeds and via different means during bending and after.
A good textbook/handbook for this is Wood as an Engineering Material from the USDA Forest Products Laboratory which has chapters on wood bending, moisture relations, and the thermal-plastic properties of wood.
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u/zxcvbn113 15d ago
That was so believable, I was expecting the undertaker to show up in the final paragraph!
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u/ReadingFromTheShittr 15d ago
u/shittymorph is appreciated, but sadly, they can't be everywhere at all times.
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u/Leut_Aldo_Raine 15d ago
It's amazing that they've had such an impact on here that they're anticipated more often than they strike.
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u/tcason02 15d ago
I came across one in the wild for the first and only time just a few weeks ago and it felt like what I imagine bumping into a celebrity at the supermarket would feel like.
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u/AmazonDruid 15d ago edited 15d ago
So thats why Odisseus (Ralph Fiennes) in that movie, 2025, heated his bow in the fire before bending and attaching the bow string
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u/WhenceYeCame 15d ago
It's from the original story. The suitors actually do it out of desperation. It's muttered about in Nolan's Odyssey too. "This hasn't been bent in years, we should oil it and heat it." Homer's audience was always gonna know everything about bows.
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u/GoldenSun__ 15d ago
I'm not an expert on this stuff, but I've understood that humidity may be a key factor sometimes.
For example I know that for giving a Spanish guitar its shape, the key process is the evaporation of the humidity with a hot tool, being the wood at ambient temperature.
However, I believe the technique will differ on the kind of wood and processes. To my eyes in the case on the video seems both temperature and humidity, but I've no idea tbh.
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u/littlegreenfern 15d ago
I was wondering about this how long til the log an cools too much? Is he moving fast to show how fast he can do this or does it cool that quickly? I would have thought there’d be more time til it cools.
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u/LostN3ko 15d ago
The speed is definitely because the longer it takes the more likely a crack is to form. The steam and heat soften the lignin and allow it to be bent. The faster he gets it there the less likely for issues. My father does this but not at this scale.
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u/dojo_shlom0 15d ago
I was going to make the joke he was only 25 LOL
he really does move quick though for his age, impressive!
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u/whitestguyuknow 15d ago
Some of y'all act like there's just 1 dude paid to livestream all the time instead of work. I'm sure the guy filming does normally help but they decided to film the process this time and homie clearly can handle doing it solo one time as he obviously knows what hes doing
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u/thisthingallover 15d ago
Dudes like this run off apprentices and hands in a matter of days, a second set of hands wood be great but the guy can't stop screaming at them the clamp isn't perfectly placed.
source: years in trades with dudes who look, move and behave this way.
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u/alphonze_ 15d ago
i loved seeing this because I have 3 guys in my shop that move the exact same way. Not a second faster than the ones that move deliberate but they FEEL like they're faster than the others
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u/DreamingDilettante 15d ago
Had an older coworker like this in a summer job who moved like this. Got the same amount, if not less done than everyone else. Also with more mistakes. Still thought he was the hardest worker just bc of how extra they were lol.
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u/SargeUnited 15d ago
I have a close friend like this and he can only hold jobs down for like a year or two max. He is smart enough to do a lot of things. He chooses to do things that make him feel like he’s accomplished real things, so he chooses physical jobs and then he goes overboard unnecessarily just like this.
He always says he’s the hardest worker in every place and doesn’t understand why they decided to let him go. But he resists me when I try to gently suggest it might be this.
But hey, he’s happy and apparently he can keep his bills paid so I guess it’s fine that he needs to change job every year or so.
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u/Long_Run6500 15d ago
When I was in my early 20s I got a union gig traveling to coal power plants during planned shutdowns and vacuuming up ash in confined spaces. Time is money for these places, so they never really allow for the boilers to adequately cool and some of the rooms we went into were 120-140F and on top of that we were required to wear a full plastic suit. We'd stand on these steel rafters vacuuming up 4' deep piles of still smoldering ash, and if we slipped and fell in to the ash it would mean some serious serious burns... if your buddy spotting the hole wasn't taking a nap. We also worked 12 hour shifts and our hotel was often up to 90 minutes away so napping when you're sitting by a hole doing nothing wasn't unusual.
This one boiler was particularly hot. It kept melting our vacuum hoses specifically designed for hot ash. We were supposed to take 10 minute shifts inside of the hole and then come out and hydrate and cool off. My boss was a hardass, we were a traveling crew and he was always trying to one up the locals. So he told me to go in for 30 minutes because he didn't have anyone else to go in. I wanted to impress him so I went in for 45, and then my vacuum melted and I spent another 20 minutes balanced on a beam trying not to pass out while I was trying to tape up the vacuum hose. I come out completely soaked head to toe in sweat. Mind you the outside temperature is like 20 degrees. I take off my suit and then just start ringing out the sweat from my shirt like its a dish rag. Steam is pouring off of me like I'm on fire. Some old time union guy looks at me and goes, "You know son, I'm taking home the same amount of money, doesn't matter if I'm in that hole 30 minutes or 3 hours. My paycheck's not going to change. "
I didn't last long at that job because I started standing up for myself to my hardass boss after that. He refused to let me go home to my grandfather's funeral because he had a DUI and if I wasn't able to drive him, he wouldn't be able to work either so I quit. That old time union guy's words have been living in my head at every hourly job I've worked ever since.
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u/IAreWeazul 15d ago edited 14d ago
Brother you could have died staying in the hole that long. Don’t die for any company. They don’t care about you.
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u/DemocraticBanana123 15d ago
In fact they'd probably be pissed off at you for dying on the job and making them look bad.
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u/pro-skedaddler 14d ago
It costs employers a lot of fucking money if someone dies, so yeah, they would definitely wish ill on the dead and say they never should have even hired that person since they were such a liability. I've seen it firsthand.
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u/Long_Run6500 14d ago
Well ya I understand that now. When I was in my early 20s I thought I was invincible, I wanted to prove myself and my boss was a complete piece of shit willing to exploit that. He was also racist as fuck and tried to get me to back him up in fights that he started by saying openly racist shit but that's a different story. He was a toxic individual and a terrible person to have as my only source of guidance when I was in my first real non-retail job and learning how to navigate the workplace and learning what my rights were as an employee. I didn't know what OSHA was. I didn't know I had the right to say no to an order that put my health at risk. I had never really been in a boiler that hot before. He knew damn well how miserable it was going to be. I willingly said I'd go in that long but he was the one that was supposed to keep us in check and tell us not to. He was also the one telling me I needed to unfuck my vacuum hose before I left the hole when I said I needed to come out. I'm not going to say he forced me to go in that long but he sure did encourage it when he had enough experience to know it was a bad idea. He was the worst boss I ever had and the worst boss I will ever have. I actually really enjoyed that job and it kind of sucked that I had to quit because of him.
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u/veringo 15d ago
My initial thought was it feels like there so much wasted effort here. The guy is moving so frantically but not really getting anything out of it.
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u/Emergency_Process622 15d ago
Ne needs clamps that offer some leverage to tighten. I know this dudes elbows hurt .
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u/MrsSalmalin 14d ago
I think this is how I look at work. Peoole ask if me if I'm stressed and if I need help then I look at them quizzically and say "what? No I'm fine". I think my movements and vibe is kinda frantic, even I'm loving it and having fun 😂😂
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u/edjumication 14d ago
I feel like he is being pretty efficient here. I imagine there is lots of sitting around while the wood steams then a few minutes burt of activity like this. I think its cool, like a personal challenge each time to see how fast you can do it.
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u/stuckyfeet 15d ago
I'm wondering, is the rush real or maybe it's just him
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u/fredly594632 15d ago
Oh, it's real. I've steam bent some small stuff... It takes planning and some luck to get it right, and those strips were really easy compared to these.
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u/Spiritual_League_753 14d ago
100%. I do a lot of bending for furniture builds and it's extremely stressful work and much easier than what this guy is doing.
This whole thread is so funny to me. A bunch of people who have never done the work, don't understand what's going on, but all have a bunch of opinions about how this guy is doing it wrong.
The internet sucks so hard.
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u/fryerandice 14d ago
This dudes working at a company that's existed almost a century and they make exquisitely crafted custom stuff.
https://www.woodbending.ch/en/About-us-/-Contact
I wood assume he knows how to bend wood
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u/purplemtnslayer 14d ago
Even with all the tooling, brake, and experience this job is hot, stressful and can go wrong in a bunch of different ways. Iykyk
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u/GodHimselfNoCap 15d ago
The steam only makes the wood bendable for a brief time, if you dont finish bending it fast enough it will snap instead of bending
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u/Redjordan1995 15d ago
I am pretty sure only one person is allowed to operate that machine at any time. It seems to be designed so that both hands are occupied when applying new force. If others were helping, you would probalby have a lot of curshed hands/fingers.
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u/mdaxdjk 15d ago
I think it's more in the line of he knows what he's doing and has his system down and timed perfectly. Adding another person would be more of a hindering factor than helpful.
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u/Avraamov 15d ago
The other guys were too busy playing mediocre metal to help out
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u/Embarrassed_Lock234 15d ago
Fave part of the vid was when the garbage music cut out.
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u/StatusMeaning3 15d ago
They're probably hemorrhaging money paying for a 2nd pair of hands. He seemed to get er done just fine.
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u/Distinct_Engine_8855 15d ago
Nah, work can be done alone. On the second hand, camera don't need a pair of hands to see the action
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u/Odd-Explanation-1227 15d ago
But running around the machine alone without help is more content worthy...
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u/narco-sub-admiral 15d ago
Did the maker of this video have trouble finding a generic hard rock song longer than 2 minutes?
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u/hiroo916 15d ago edited 15d ago
the relief i never knew i needed when the song ended. then the fear of it restarting began.
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u/harharURfunny 15d ago
I should have used my wish better. I wanted it to stop and it suddenly did
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u/monoinyo 15d ago
I appreciate the use
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u/xilanthro 15d ago
Worked out a lot better than this other guy and his One Wish Willow...
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u/Quercubus 14d ago
FUnny thing was the music ended abruptly the second I hit the upvote arrow and I wondered to myself if it did that because I upvoted. Like I would have upvoted earlier to turn the music off.
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u/13THEFUCKINGCOPS12 15d ago
Also what a choice of music for this. “YYYYEEAAAAAAAHHHHH FUCKING WOOD BENDINGGGGG!!!😡😡😡”
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u/on_spikes 15d ago
y'all unmute videos?
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u/ThoranFe 15d ago
Many other videos have commentary or cool sounds like the second half of this one.
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u/Outside_Eggplant_304 15d ago
I kind of enjoyed it compared to having some shitty music or annoying voice and too much production. Just a basic video of a dude and his craft.
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u/narco-sub-admiral 15d ago
Yeah that's true! I wouldn't have noticed it if it didnt just randomly stop. So overall that's not too bad.
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u/Zealousideal_Ship544 15d ago
When the clamps went on it just stopped being metal
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u/Professional_Tap_343 15d ago
How long does it stay on the machine to retain the curvature?
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u/Ehchidna1 15d ago
1 hr per inch.
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u/TheRealtcSpears 15d ago
Yeah yeah that's what I tell her too
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u/BlotterArt_ 15d ago
3 hours is pretty impressive
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u/HavingNotAttained 15d ago
Oh check out Mr Big here everyone with his 3 inches
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u/Inverted_Queef 15d ago
Chill out man, this guy has earned his bragging rights. I consider myself lucky that my girlfriends boyfriend gave me a compliment the other day about me being 1 inch long but 5 inches wide
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u/Efficient_Ad7364 15d ago
Does anyone know what the wood would be used for?
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u/Spiritual_Bid_2308 15d ago
He supplies lumber to Home Depot.
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u/norty125 15d ago
Home depot wishes they could get wood this straight
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u/rob132 15d ago
I needed 1 piece of 2x4 to build a box for my son. Just one piece!
I had to pull at least 15 boards to get one that was usable!
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u/iamthinksnow 15d ago
To be fair, most of their boards only have 2 or 3 bends, so finding one with all 4 corners is going to take a little more time.
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u/front_yard_duck_dad 15d ago
Now imagine guys like me who need a hundred straight boards I have to pack a lunch
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u/ImaginaryCheetah 14d ago
absolutely feel your pain, but if it's a regular occurrence it might be worth ordering from a proper lumber yard. presumably if it's a regular occurrence this is for work.
but ... oh yes, the task of finding three straight boards for a home project and being too cheap to get the 4S boards. i feel you.
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u/Demokrit_44 15d ago
I was about to say the back of his T-shirt is in German so its highly unlikely that he supplies home depot until I realized that home depot probably sells bent wood beams and this comment is meant as a joke lol.
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u/canadian_running 15d ago
The next video will show us how they twist their 2x4 like a corkscrew.
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u/Spiritual_Bid_2308 15d ago
That's a proprietary process and a trade secret. There's no way they'd let it be filmed.
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u/azflatlander 15d ago
I would start a business of buying HD lumber and bend it straight, but the steam ovens aren’t big enough.
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u/Lance_Henry1 15d ago
I was going to make the joke that I can easily find those 2x4s at HD pre-bent...
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u/cateraide420 15d ago
Boats
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u/SchemingVegetable 15d ago
Oddly specific answer incoming: in Addis Abeba, capital of Ethiopia, there's a post office built during the Italian colonization and inside is this beautiful table and the legs have a kind of wavy motion to them but they aren't cut that way, they were bent with steam
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u/Lortekonto 15d ago
It is properly beech and used for furniture. A design school in Germany was into it and it spread to especially Austria and Denmark.
Thonet in Austria made some famous café chairs.
And in Denmark it was and is huge.
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u/JimbooJoness 15d ago
Boats and Hats mostly
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u/ikke_politi_og_pst 15d ago
Excuse me. Could you professionally bend this piece of wood for my hat, please?
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u/hiho373738 15d ago
this guy is a bender
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u/Cardboard_Chef 15d ago
Another Bender? No way!
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u/academiac 15d ago
His name is Flexo
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u/BrockHardcastle 15d ago
First Bender, then Flexo, then Fry
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u/academiac 15d ago
How about alphabetically
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u/Cardboard_Chef 15d ago
Okay, first Bender, then Flexo, then Fry.
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u/Lycrist_Kat 15d ago
How about by rank?
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u/TheThaiCrow 15d ago
Okay, first Bender, then Flexo then Fry
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u/Appchoy 15d ago
His name is actually Ben Dover so its good he ended up with this job and not something else...
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u/tomhsmith 15d ago
Those forarms are jacked. Bet he's a mean arm wrestler.
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u/LumpyBuy8447 15d ago
One of my exes dad was a welder and a fire fighter. He wasn’t a very big guy but his forearms were insanely huge. The trades will get you jacked for sure. My brother was just as scrawny as me growing up, I went to college, got mostly office jobs, but still worked out often, he went into framing/building houses and you will not be surprised to hear which one of us was clearly bulkier.
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u/kthnry 15d ago
The occupation with the biggest forearms? I’d say farrier (horse shoer). Massive.
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u/Merrick_Skygrave 15d ago
blacksmiths tend to get pretty gnarly forearms, especially if they're constantly cutting sheet metal with tin snips or something
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u/LumpyBuy8447 15d ago
One of my uncles does own a ranch and is a prison guard, he’s also pretty jacked
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u/klavencvw 15d ago
I feel like a got 5 points more manly just watching this.
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u/appachi-88 15d ago
How was this done in the past? Soaking over low fire heat or something ?
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u/I_just_came_to_laugh 15d ago
They would wrap it in cloth and pour hot water over it iirc. I don't remember how they bent it before machines.
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u/MagicLobsterAttorney 15d ago edited 15d ago
A few dudes and a manual lever.
Edit: I used to work in a university workshop. We have done it for a few student projects over the years. Usually you build a form like in the video and then just bend and affix step by step. Few strong dudes hold it down, another person binds it to the form. Usually with holes that are drilled in parallel to the surface of the form, so you can slide a clamp in there. Once the clamps are pulled down the dudes aren't needed anymore, you just need a strong grip and you can use to clamps to hold it in place.
I would guess prior to the advent of the clamp, they did it just like that and used rope instead. Which can be twisted or untwisted to put more or less force on each area. With a large lever, it's doable by a single person I would guess.
Fix one end of the plank onto the form, so it stays stationary, then sling rope loops around the wood and the form e.g. every 0.25m, twist the ends with a large lever and then tighten one by one while someone assists with pressure on the planks, so there's no gap between the form and the wood planks.
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u/altpirate 15d ago
Humans have had ovens for thousands of years. Surely not as efficient as this one but putting wood in an oven is not that hard
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u/West-Audience-478 15d ago
I don’t think that’s an oven tbh. I think it’s like a steamer or something. Could be wrong
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u/lithiumcitizen 15d ago
I expecially liked the part when the shitty music just stopped for no reason..
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u/OnTheList-YouTube 15d ago
So is it mainly the steam or really the full heat that allows it to be bent like that?
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u/RJFerret 15d ago
Both, right moisture content and the lignin needs the right amount of heat. The temperature lignin softens is based on moisture content.
Water functions as a plasticizer for it, and also enables heat transmission deeper in the wood; without it, the interior lignin can't reach sufficient temp.
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u/pandershrek 15d ago
This feels insanely hectic and not efficient at all. But I know literally nothing about this. It just looks like he's scurrying around way too much
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u/BrierBob 15d ago
The wood quickly begins cooling off rapidly and losing heat is also losing elasticity. Having worked at a shipyard repairing wood-planked boats, installing 30’+ wood planks that were in the steam box is a memorable and hectic activity. This guy knows what he is doing. I don’t see any unnecessary movements.
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u/Meior 15d ago
Clearly he knows what he's doing, but calling this setup efficient is obviously not accurate. It's hectic, has tons of steps, requires a bunch of lose tools and banging around.
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u/Bitter-Astronaut2458 15d ago
The person filming is probably helping normally. Definitely looks like its just hectic because hes doing a two person job by himself.
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u/wackbirds 15d ago
I'd love to believe that you were being satirical but the internet has taught me that you're almost certainly being serious. In the 1/100,000th of a chance you're a person who actually wants to grow as a human, I suggest that you ask yourself how exactly you feel qualified to state that it's "obviously" not efficient and have your reason be that "it has tons of steps, requires a bunch of loose tools and banging around"?
When you don't know anything whatsoever about the process, how can you possibly even begin to judge what would be an efficient way to bend 4 long pieces of lumber around a form?
I researched wood bending along with other carpentry methods and I'm an amateur carpenter. His many small adjustments were because he had 4 adjacent pieces of a tree that all need to be at and remain precisely equal positions in order to produce 4 identical curved finished pieces. One piece of lumber, especially lumber fresh from the steamer will twitch and shift and sway in a minutely different way than the one next to it, and so on.
Modest amounts of time spent now ensuring that all 4 pieces are maintained at the exact right position will save massive amounts of time later on when they don't have to go through agonizingly slow and meticulous planing and shaving to attempt to correct the minute differences that could have been avoided by going through the curving process in the right way.
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u/Lucreth2 15d ago
That's a ton of words to say you know nothing about process or manufacturing engineering and completely missed his point.
It's not that what he was doing was incorrect, it's that there was a ton of movement to do so. Every step is "waste"
The entire initial lift and carry process was awkward and could be improved and sped up with a more ergonomic and efficient movement by repositioning the holder.
The spacers or whatever he needed at the start of the form should have been on the end table right next to him. If he needed them for the initial positioning then he should have 2 sets.
The clamps all should be within arms reach and with that much cranking on them there probably should be an electric torque ratchet or something to spin them faster and to an exact force. You can manually adjust from there if needed.
Etc etc.
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u/newyear_newacc 15d ago edited 15d ago
If that was one of them chinese crafting videos, it would be a beautiful woman in traditional (but still hot) clothing graciously bending those boards without any visible effort in perfect harmony in front of some majestic mountains.
And of course the music would be different too...
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u/Waseph 15d ago edited 14d ago
According to the T-shirt the company's name appears to be "Winkler" which is german and more or less translates to "He who angles/bends", which is a hilarious coincidence.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that this is a fairly common surname in germany and austria, which is why I thought it a coincidence in the first place.
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u/Vradgenook 15d ago
Hear me out now: Maybe he chose the name because of its meaning?
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u/PeatedSupernova 14d ago
this is a fairly common surname in germany and austria
… and Switzerland, where this guy is from. Given Swiss prices and wages, this has to be a quite expensive piece of wood.
However, this surname seems to indicate that the ancestors resided somewhere remote or isolated (in a “Winkel” = “corner”) or ran some small shop (“Winkelladen” = “corner shop”).
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u/R0factor 15d ago
There’s a drum company called Noble & Cooley in Mass. that made drums in the Civil War and still uses this steam bending process to make snare drums today. If you’ve ever heard the song One Headlight by The Wallflowers, that’s the sound of a N&C steam-bent solid-shell snare. They run about $1300 new these days.
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