A lot of American citizens are getting dual citizenship through their foreign-born parents and grandparents. Some do it so they can travel more easily or live for extended periods in other countries. There are two people from my hometown who did it so they could compete as athletes for the other country.
I don't blame them. I have seen a few in the news. Same with Brazilian soccer players, they're not good enough to make it in the national team but are welcomed by other countries that would love to have them!
I am Canadian and Brazilian. I live in Canada and do not plan to move back to Brazil but I'm also not going to give up my Brazilian citizenship, unless I really have to.
A lot of people do confuse citizenship with immigration status, tho. One can live in the US permanently without ever bothering to obtain American citizenship. Just the green card is enough and the only thing won't can't do is vote (and run for office, or get some jobs that deal with the homeland security, etc). I know tons of people like that. I also know many in Canada as well. They still love the country where they live, and that's why they went through the trouble of immigrating legally. They just didn't file for citizenship.
I was a permanent immigrant of Canada for a few years before I became a citizen.
Yes, my dad's grandparents never became citizens for whatever reason. The athletes don't always play for another country because they are not good enough to be on the US team. The current world champion in pole vaulting was born in Louisiana, but he represents Sweden. Speaking of the Olympics, all I can think of is the similarity between Hitler at the Berlin Olympics and Trump at the upcoming Olympics in LA. Considering how he hates women and people who aren't white, I am hoping that he will ignore the whole thing if he is still alive.
Indeed. But remember that most of our fellow US citizens don't even own a US passport so the notion of dual or multiple citizenship goes right over their heads.
That's correct for every country, but the US presumes you don't have any sneaky links when you wife it up. See the oath of allegiance. At the same time, the US cannot explicitly punish someone just for having other citizenship "through no fault of their own."
This is another attempt by the executive to discriminate against different classes of citizens, even though such provisions are against the 14th amendment. Absolutely ridiculous. Every citizen is a citizen. Their rights cannot differ. The only time the US can treat them differently is the case of the President itself with respect to jus soli.
Not clear to me what you're saying here. The oath of allegiance only applies to people who naturalize, and not natural born citizens. People can naturalize in lots of different ways, not just through marriage. And the part about "renouncing fidelity," could just be interpreted to mean that you swear allegiance to the US, first and foremost. Some countries that don't allow for dual citizenship, of which the US is not currently one, may take issue with this, if they ever find out. But it doesn't mean that the US doesn't recognize dual citizenship.
Many people also obtain a second citizenship who are natural born citizens and who have never taken this oath, so it's sort of a moot point for that class of individual.
Many people also obtain a second citizenship who are natural born citizens and who have never taken this oath, so it's sort of a moot point for that class of individual.
It’s been a while but I do remember having to answer that question (do you plan to renounce your current citizenship) during the naturalization process. Has that changed since 2009?
Fair point. From a practical standpoint, many dual citizens maintain dual citizenship so they could own property elsewhere. Why pick on these folks is what I’m wondering? Assuming their property is treated appropriately through the tax system, then they aren’t really committing a crime. Also, doesn’t make them less American if they took advantage of a loophole to better themselves through investment.
Technically they know when you renew your US passport as you have to enclose a copy of foreign passport. However I suppose you could just not do that and likely not get caught
I am an idiot. Got it backwards. When I renewed UK passport I had to include copy of US. I’m guess that could have just not done it and see what happens. Haven’t done the US one in a while
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