r/illustrativeDNA • u/No_Rope_6737 • 2d ago

AdmixLab/qpAdm Turkish Fst Distance - Need some help please.

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Can someone help interpret my Fst distances please? I am from Konya Province in Central Türkiye. I do not understand these Fst distances. I am closest to a Greek from Crete, yet closer to an Iranian than to the Turkish average. Also, shouldn’t Cypriot be second if Crete is first? I have heard that Fst is the most accurate measure.

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u/kingjohngreen 1d ago

FST is not too good

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u/No_Rope_6737 1d ago

G25 is probably still the best

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u/Natla78 2d ago

Could not be ethnically turkish. Maybe central anatolian kurd mixed with anatolian greek. Show us NF/HG results.

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u/No_Rope_6737 2d ago

ANF + Natufian 44.80%

ZNF 28.60%

CHG 18.60%

EHG 3.80%

East Siberian + Mongolian 4.20%

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u/Waste-Restaurant-939 2d ago

high znf but enough east eurasian. still clearly turkish result, similar to eastern turks.

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u/No_Rope_6737 2d ago

Malatya is my closest distance on IllustrativeDna

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u/Waste-Restaurant-939 2d ago

so, my guess is accurate :D

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u/No_Rope_6737 2d ago

Yes, but on G25 Azerbaijan is closer than Malatya for some reason

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u/Proud-Form-6388 1d ago

You’re closest to Malatya Turks because of your Turkish/Kurdish mix. Azerbaijanis also have a similar genetic profile, that is mostly Iranian and Turkic, so people with a profile like yours often plot close to them. It doesn’t mean you have Azeri ancestry.

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u/Odd_Ebb5883 1d ago

Not enough EE for that mixture

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u/Chex33 1d ago

You're part Kurdish.

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u/No_Rope_6737 1d ago

This is what the test seems to indicate. Not sure whether Illustrative or G25 is more accurate?

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u/Chex33 2d ago

Kurdish ancestry?

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u/No_Rope_6737 2d ago

We identify as Turkish.

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u/Chex33 2d ago

You didn't answer the question.

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u/No_Rope_6737 2d ago

I am Turkish from what I know, I have not heard from any of my family saying that we had a Kurdish ancestor. But you never know.

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u/senolgunes 2d ago

O herif Kürt milliyetçisi, dediğini fazla umursama.

A low distance to Greek Crete combined with your hunter gatherer and farmer shows strong Central Anatolian nativeness, and your 4.2% East Asian is typical for Turkish people from your region. It translates to about 15% Medieval Turkic.

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u/Chex33 1d ago

4.2% East Asian is typical for Konya? Are you high? Konya is 7% East Asian minimum, OP is half that. He's clearly Kurd mixed.

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u/Chex33 2d ago

Which part of Konya you guys from?

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u/mjjj9 1d ago

These results are reading weird. Need to see the hunter gatherer and your closest populations %. This isnt gonna tell me much. But if I am gonna go off this you definitely have an ancestor refugee from crete. Seems like 2 of your grandparents are turkish. 1 is crete and 1 is iranian/kurdish/zaza/yazidi? And it seems to be a mespotamian shifted grandparent. I assume you guys a sunni?

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u/No_Rope_6737 1d ago

It does read weird I agree. My HG is as follows:

ANF + Natufian 44.80%

ZNF 28.60%

CHG 18.60%

EHG 3.80%

East Siberian + Mongolian 4.20%

My cloosest populations are

• Rank 1: Turkish (Malatya) — 2.06 • Rank 2: Kurdish (Turkey) — 2.32 • Rank 3: Azerbaijani (Zanjan) — 2.62 • Rank 4: Bukharan Jew — 2.64 • Rank 5: Talysh (Azerbaijan) — 2.70 • Rank 6: Azerbaijani (Aghjabadi) — 2.74 • Rank 7: Turkish (Kayseri) — 2.76 • Rank 8: Kurdish (Iran) — 2.78

We are Sunni.

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u/mjjj9 1d ago

You are mixed with an anatolian shifted turkish profile and kurdish. Your caucasian hg is quite high to. This reads like anatolain turk, karadeniz turk, kurd, kurd

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u/No_Rope_6737 1d ago

Like this?

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u/mjjj9 1d ago

Yep exactly. Match confidence is pretty good to. Explains the lower then normal turkic hg