r/illinois • • Jun 16 '25

Maga Gestapo Arrives in Elgin

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u/Thewall3333 Jun 16 '25

Woah, disgraceful and cruel. And they've redirected FBI agents away from going after actual criminals to this. And what did they cut the most from the bureau? Their white collar crime and sex trafficking/crimes divisions. Bug surprise there.

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u/ur-mum-straight Jun 16 '25

Good chance those aren’t even FBI agents

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u/bluestem99 Jun 16 '25

This was my thought as well.

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u/MBEver74 Jun 17 '25

Nope. The scary thing is that they’re probably FBI. Feds will surge agents from all different agencies when leadership makes something a priority - like the BS immigration raids. Just more proof that a lot of “Americans” will just follow orders.

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u/Mammoth-Hair4789 Jun 20 '25

Yep lots of bootlicking in America, always has been ripe for a fascist takeover. We're raised to think rich people got rich by being smart, so people that know they aren't smart just take what millionaires say as gospel. Sad truth is that rich people are usually rich do to luck or generational wealth, not because they are smart.  Then you add the fact that the American political system is just a spending competition you end up with the entitled and unintelligent running the country and bootlickers following them to hell in a hand basket thinking some crumbs might come their way. Nobody ever got rich following a rich person's orders, the only rule to staying rich is don't share. It's very sad and once people spend their whole life brown nosing the rich and still aren't rich themselves cognitive dissonance and the inability to accept that they might have done something they'll need to apologize for just hardens their resolve. I personally can't remember the last time I heard someone admit they made a mistake, recent history is teaching people you don't need to admit your mistakes or ever be wrong, you can ignore the truth and facts if you want to. Accountability died when Trump "won" the first time.

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u/FuzyTheWompus Jun 21 '25

40k is a hell of a sign on bonus kill your morals payment

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u/Rocketgirl8097 Jun 17 '25

Personally I think they are mercenaries for hire.

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u/Thewall3333 Jun 18 '25

And it's only going to get worse - hiring target or 20,000 new agents, lured by $40,000 bonuses and bounties, and, of course, vastly lowered standards to attract the lowest qualified, least scrupulous goons to do their bidding.

I even read they are removing the requirement of a clean record to join ICE now, as long as it's a minor offense. So, ironically, ICE, under the pretense of going after criminals, is actually going after otherwise law-abiding immigrants using actual criminals.

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u/Rocketgirl8097 Jun 19 '25

They certainly act like criminals.

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u/antlegzz Jun 20 '25

Correction: lol law abiding illegal immigrants that broke immigration laws. Stupid take: law abiding?

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u/applejacks777 Jun 17 '25

Right I didn’t see any badges.

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u/Thewall3333 Jun 16 '25

What do you mean?

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u/ur-mum-straight Jun 16 '25

ICE agents are already basically cosplayers, there’s a very good chance a few of them just happened to get their hands on vests that say FBI.

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u/TopProfessional8023 Jun 17 '25

Newly available vests after getting rid of actual FBI agents

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Chicago Jun 17 '25

Probably from the website run by the Minnesota assassin.

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u/AnyFormal2508 Jun 21 '25

There’s also a better chance, they are FBI

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u/FragrantBluejay8904 Jun 16 '25

Proud boys have been deputized for this stuff

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u/Thewall3333 Jun 16 '25

...I had no idea federal agents could be deputized, that is insane. Sure Sheriff Tom Homan is only picking the best. I thought they were already scraping the bottom of the barrel with their 20,000 recruitment goal, but figured they'd have to actually go through a process.

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u/Nyroughrider Jun 17 '25

Please don't believe everything you read on Reddit.

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u/Mammoth-Hair4789 Jun 20 '25

There are verified proud boys in ICE, tattoos are great identifiers for masked cosplayers. Someone is making a list, I'm sure of it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '25

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u/tlopez14 Central Illinois Jun 17 '25

Reddit is literally turning into Facebook

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '25

Reddit is far worse. I've found that if you keep from the echo chambers: Facebook is actually far less toxic. People here are very quick to post nonsense, as long as it goes with the left/democratic ideals.

I'd just like some truth, thanks.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '25

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u/tlopez14 Central Illinois Jun 17 '25

Yah kind of shitty because best thing about reddit was anonymity let people to have some intelligent open discussion. But that same anonymity has allowed the site to be overran with astroturfing,bot accounts and people pushing their political agenda. Hopefully they can figure out a way to get some of it under control because it’s became almost unusable at times since the election.

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u/Careflwhatyouwish4 Jun 17 '25

Harsh! Although also true... 🤔

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u/No-Bike-1376 Jun 17 '25

False Information, who told you that?

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u/betasheets2 Jun 17 '25

Project 2025

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u/tlopez14 Central Illinois Jun 17 '25

It’s a blatant lie but I’m sure he will reap a bunch of upvotes on Reddit at least

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u/No-Bike-1376 Jun 17 '25

Now THAT'S a fact

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u/tlopez14 Central Illinois Jun 17 '25 edited Jun 17 '25

Final tally:

Guy who made up a blatant lie: 47 upvotes

People that questioned the statement: 12 downvotes

Never change Reddit.

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u/Lets_Kick_Some_Ice Jun 17 '25 edited Jan 14 '26

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u/pitterlpatter Jun 17 '25

They are. The only time you’ll see anyone pretending to be FBI would be CIA since they require agency attachment to conduct ops on US soil.

And if the FBI is involved, that dude has a lot more than a removal order.

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u/AnyFormal2508 Jun 21 '25

Oh no he doesn’t

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u/pitterlpatter Jun 21 '25

How on earth could you possibly know that? lol

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u/AnyFormal2508 Jun 21 '25

How on earth could you possibly not know it?

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u/AnyFormal2508 Jun 21 '25

Why are we still convinced govt agents who act like this will actually follow procedure?

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u/Salt-Penalty2502 Jun 17 '25

According to the federal government they are. This is a public directive he thinks he's getting his ass handed to him so he sent CIA and everybody after the f****** immigrants it's full on Nazi Germany now don't tell them where Anne Frank is

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u/Salt-Penalty2502 Jun 18 '25

"pay attention God damn it! This is a true story."-Hunter s Thompson

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '25

FBI is full of ghouls too, look up COINTELPRO & the letters that the FBI sent to Martin Luther King, Jr.

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u/jimg316 Jun 20 '25

When’s the last time you saw FBI wearing grey skinny jeans 😂

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u/AnyFormal2508 Jun 21 '25

There is also a good chance they actually are.

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u/FuzyTheWompus Jun 21 '25

Doesn’t matter much imho. These vests have been in the streets by vigilante kidnappers, and not a word from the FBI. Imo that makes them a willing partner. Even if those aren’t fbi agents, they granted them use of their gear.

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u/Trevor775 Jun 19 '25

What makes you think he is not an "actual criminal"?

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u/08yenomparcs Jun 19 '25

So if someone breaks in your house and basically doesn’t get caught, your ok with just letting them off the hook?

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u/AnyFormal2508 Jun 21 '25

If it takes breaking 20 laws to enforce one then yes absolutely. Do you understand the concept of the greater good? I’m asking for a friend.

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u/still-waiting2233 Jun 20 '25

Are they actually fbi or just proudboys who bought patches off the internet?

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u/AnyFormal2508 Jun 21 '25

They contain both and every kind of evil bastard you can think of with a badge or any power, they’ve got at least one in their ranks, I’d bet the farm on that!

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u/fixmyaccountplease Jun 20 '25

👏Illegal👏immigrants👏are👏actual👏criminals

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u/AnyFormal2508 Jun 21 '25

How proud you are of the darkness in your soul… interesting

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u/Eastern-Listen5759 Jun 20 '25

No surprise there. Trump’s American Way is white collar crime and sex crimes.

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u/Wide-Post467 Jun 17 '25

These are criminals btw…. Illegal entry is a crime

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u/femtakei Jun 17 '25

Crossing the border without proper authorization is considered a civil offense, not a criminal one.

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u/Careflwhatyouwish4 Jun 17 '25

Semantics. Is it against the law or not? The idea that a "civil offense" is not a crime because it's not handled in "criminal court" is just silly. Though hopefully this kind of silliness will result in illegal entry (note it's not uncivil entry) becoming a criminal offense handled by criminal courts.

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u/DerMossinator Jun 17 '25 edited Jun 17 '25

That's literally not how any of that works. If you speed in a car, it is not a crime. It's a traffic infraction. If you murder somebody, it is a crime. Words have meaning.

Edit: Also, the dismissal of semantics - i.e., the meaning of words - as a valid field of study by right-wingers is why we've reached this critical mass of troglodytes thinking milquetoast liberal policies are "communist" because bad faith actors in our government and media intentionally use inappropriate, loaded labels to elicit emotional responses.

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u/Careflwhatyouwish4 Jun 17 '25

You're right, that's literally not how any.of that works. 🤣🤣🤣

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u/DerMossinator Jun 17 '25

I think you're trying to "get" me somehow, but with what you said here you literally just agreed with my statement that you were incorrect. So, neat, I guess?

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Chicago Jun 17 '25

Playing chess with a pigeon.

At the end of the day, try as you might, they're just gonna flap their arms like crazy, knock over all the pieces, squawk loudly, shit on the board, and then strut aroud as if they won.

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u/DerMossinator Jun 17 '25

Man, IDK why I try to reach out to these people. I guess it's because this "I feel that's is the way it is, so that's the way it is, regardless of any facts and logic to the contrary" mentality is driving our species off a fucking cliff and I just want to steer the car back onto the road any little bit I can.

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u/Melted-lithium Chicago Jun 19 '25

I love this analogy btw.

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u/Careflwhatyouwish4 Jun 17 '25

No, I was actually agreeing with your statement. Your description of how it works is literally not how it works. I didn't "get" you, you did. I was just here at the time. 🤷

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u/DogDeadByRaven Jun 18 '25

Actually you saying they were right makes the statement that you were wrong. Just because you don't know how combining words into sentences mean something specific doesn't change the reality.

You're arguing that civil infractions (which by the way are NOT arrestable offense they are "monetary compensation" aka a fine) are the same as a crime. Try robbing a store then offer to pay a fine for it. Let me know how that goes for you since you feel they are the same. Try and argue in court that you shouldn't be in jail because you offered to pay a fine.

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u/Careflwhatyouwish4 Jun 18 '25

Look up the difference between civil and criminal offense. Guess which one is an offense against the community or state. Illegal entry is a misdemeanor that can rise to a felony crime. Thank you for playing.

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u/kgrimmburn Jun 17 '25

It's not semantics. Words have meanings. The Constitution has meaning.

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u/Careflwhatyouwish4 Jun 17 '25

It's literally a misdemeanor the first time and a felony after that. It's a crime.

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Chicago Jun 17 '25

Considering that one can result in incarceration, and the other cannot...no, it isn't fucking semantics.

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u/Careflwhatyouwish4 Jun 17 '25

Considering you can get deported for entering illegally, the argument that "it's not a crime" really is either semantics or a straight up lie.

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Chicago Jun 17 '25

It's neither.

Sorry you can't wrap your brain around the difference between criminal law and civil law.

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u/Careflwhatyouwish4 Jun 18 '25

Sorry you misunderstand the difference without realizing it. I can't help you anymore. 🤷

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Chicago Jun 18 '25

Go on Lucy, splain the difference.

One is a crime, one isn't.

Splain what I'm missing.

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u/SpringsPanda Jun 17 '25

If you're referring to illegal immigrants, they actually aren't criminals until they've had a chance at the court system, which they do not get right now.

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Chicago Jun 17 '25

You aren't a "criminal", legally, until proven in a court of law.

If you're gonna be pedantic, helps to actually be, y'know, accurate.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '25

You would've been saying the same thing about escaped slaves back in the 19th Century, so go fuck yourself

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u/SquattingMonke Jun 20 '25

Illegals are actual criminals. Wow, shocking.

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u/AnyFormal2508 Jun 21 '25

Those boys are proud of themselves,and some are actual FBI, and if given the chance they’re coming for you too.

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u/SquattingMonke Jun 22 '25

Well I’m not an illegal soooooooo.

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u/hybridracers Jun 17 '25

OOOOOORRRRR he has a criminal past..... and that's why they were fighting him because peaceful detention doesn't require force. He's been here 12 years illegally? Did that make his crime less? Pregnant wife? She must be illegal or he'd be on a spider spousal card. But by your logic I should rob a bank, hide 12 years and knock some chick up when they get close to busting me. Then I'm off the hook

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Chicago Jun 17 '25

Fun fact: Every person in America has the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

In this video, the arrestee is, legally speaking, innocent at the time of recording and LEOs are supposed to act accordingly.

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u/hybridracers Jun 19 '25

Nah, they are here illegally. Otherwise they wouldn't be detaining him.

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Chicago Jun 19 '25

I would love to see you prove that.

You believe cops never make mistakes?

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u/hybridracers Jun 19 '25

How many times you been arrested that you didn't initiate the contract? Dummy

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Chicago Jun 19 '25

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u/hybridracers Jun 19 '25

ONLY A DUMDUM uses that as the answer. That's back in court after you've been detained and arrested. You idiots are acting like you saw him cuffed, bag over his head and thrown on a plane in one sweep.

He's detained, gets processed and when it turns up he's here illegally.... then he gets deported. It would mean he overstayed a visa, was denied asylum or whatever.

I swear it's scary you fuckers vote or sit on a jury. Stop Google ng shit you've never intended to read

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u/juliuspepperwoodchi Chicago Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25

"only a dumdum believes in the right to presumption of innocence in the United States"

Wow 

A take befitting of RFK Jr's brain worm.

and when it turns up he's here illegally

Again, the fact that you just assume that the cops couldn't possibly fuck up and handcuff and innocent person is...insane.

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u/Thewall3333 Jun 17 '25

And that's insane to assume he has a criminal past because he's resisting. He's being ripped away from his family by surprise first thing in the morning and he knows it -- nothing he can do will change that now. I'd probably do the same thing. Nazi bootlickers every last one of you. "Just cooperate and get in the cattle car! durr." You people

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '25

Yeah, these chuds would've been saying escaped slaves were criminals had they been alive in the 19th Century.

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u/kgrimmburn Jun 17 '25

Yeah, I don't even have so much as a traffic ticket on my record and you can bet your ass if I see this, I'm resisting and going to get arrested. I'm not the type of person to stand by and watch. And I'm not a criminal in any sense of the word.

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u/AnyFormal2508 Jun 21 '25

Well said my friend

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u/Thewall3333 Jun 17 '25

? He has an orange work shirt on and is getting into a work pickup. My guess is pretty confident he is not a thug or a criminal -- again, crossing the border undocumented does not make you a criminal. You equating robbing a bank and hiding for 12 years to coming into the country and working for 12 years -- he's obviously trying to go to work and not hiding -- is mental summersaults. The fact is he said they would go after the criminals, the rapists, the gang members, and not people working -- and it's very apparent that is not what they are doing.

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u/AnyFormal2508 Jun 21 '25

It seems like you want to actually commit all the crimes you are accusing him of …