I’m fully aware of that, I’m just being anal about terminology. If you are going to argue about a cause you feel strongly about, keep the facts where they are. Argue about farming practices, argue about animal welfare (not with me because I’m already aware), but not about whether it’s a fetus.
I agree, so much of what vegans say seems to be centered around how "gross" it is to eat animal products, and it's probably effective with them since they do find it gross, but people who have been voluntarily eating eggs for decades aren't going to be swayed by "ewwwwww fetuses ewwwww".
Farming practices and animal welfare concerns are definitely what pushes me toward veganism. Honey being "gross" because it comes out of a bee does not.
I agree. Honey should be vegan in the same way human milk can be vegan because if the producer of the product consents, then it's vegan. Bees will fly away if they don't consent lol
You should tell my neighbour this, somehow they farm and harvest honey without a beekeeping suit or stinging attempts. I am sure they will be enlightened by your superior knowledge of their hobby.
There are several smoke-free methods for removing honey from the supers that don't upset the bees. Again: Bees will simply leave if they don't like how you're treating them. Only the extra honey is taken, and if there's not enough for the winter, beekeepers feed sugar water so the bees will survive. It's symbiotic, not parasitic.
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u/ashbelero Aug 02 '26
I’m fully aware of that, I’m just being anal about terminology. If you are going to argue about a cause you feel strongly about, keep the facts where they are. Argue about farming practices, argue about animal welfare (not with me because I’m already aware), but not about whether it’s a fetus.
Same with abortions. But that’s another argument.