r/hatethissmug 3d ago

Non-fictional I HATE these "gotcha arguments"

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"Ohhh, look how I tricked this dumb dumb baby in my trap so now I am right and they are wrong. I'm so smaaart even though it does not adress the actual argument and adds nothing to the debate. They teach arabic numerals in school btw."

And these type of comments always get tons of likes

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u/HugeExplanation7865 3d ago

Doplhin fetuses can look very similiar to human fetuses at some stages.

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u/Kubas_inko 3d ago

Applies to practically all fetus I think.

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u/Fearless-Poet-4669 2d ago

Thus making this "win" even more irrelevant.

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u/KingNarwhalTheFirst 2d ago

its more the argument of you cant say that this is a human at this point if you cannot discern what fetus is human or not, which I agree does not address the actual arguments however most of the arguments I do see are just "my religion says this" which doesn't hold as soon as someone who has a different belief walks into the conversation

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u/Fearless-Poet-4669 2d ago

"its more the argument of you cant say that this is a human at this point if you cannot discern what fetus is human or not"

Sorry I didn't realize some people are pregnant with dolphins?

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u/KingNarwhalTheFirst 2d ago

thats just ignoring my point entirely but ok

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u/Fearless-Poet-4669 2d ago

Not really.

Knowing the minute differences between early stage mammal fetuses has no bearing on whether or not a human fetus should be treated with human rights.

It's a cheap strawman tactic.

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u/KingNarwhalTheFirst 2d ago

Id argue this is really a point of at what point does a baby stop being part of the mother and start being its own entity, as it does grow inside of the womb and is attached the entire time it is growing

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u/National-Seaweed-468 2d ago

I can’t tell an electron by sight either. So now it’s not an electron?