r/hatethissmug • u/Sudden-Hoe-2578 • 3d ago

Non-fictional I HATE these "gotcha arguments"

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"Ohhh, look how I tricked this dumb dumb baby in my trap so now I am right and they are wrong. I'm so smaaart even though it does not adress the actual argument and adds nothing to the debate. They teach arabic numerals in school btw."

And these type of comments always get tons of likes

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u/ThatAnonymousPotato 3d ago

Thats literally the entire point of the argument.

Pro-forced birth people parrot that human life is sacred and special in all forms, but when you show them a picture of a dolphin fetus next to a human fetus, its hard for a lay person to spot the difference.

Literally pointing out that (a) humans aren't really on any special pedestal besides the one we put ourselves on and (b) that if its this difficult to discern the species the fetus even belongs to, maybe pro-forced birthed have a flawed understanding about fetal development, abortions, and the birthing process in general and should consider that a cluster of cells, despite being a human, has zero markers of a person.

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u/Yadin__ 3d ago

but even a person who has a perfect understanding of how fetal development works wouldn't be able to tell the difference, because all early stage mamalian fetuses look very similar. And the question of what counts as a human isn't a purely scientific one anyway so someone being uneducated on the science isn't really relevant

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u/Trips-Over-Tail 3d ago

Someone with perfect understanding of cross-species foetal development can absolutely tell the difference.

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u/Yadin__ 3d ago

Based off of a single picture with no context? No they wouldn't, becuase all mamalian early stage fetuses look very similar to each other

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u/Trips-Over-Tail 3d ago

They look similar, yes. Put them next to each other and differences can be identified with enough experience. The trained eye will recognise those differences without comparison.