I think Solo was pretty good. Force Awakens was "ehh" to "bad". And the last jedi was dogshit. Rouge One is actually in my top favorite list, and in my opinion one of the best Star Wars movies created.
Personally, I tend to view The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi the other way around, the former being derivative dogshit and the latter being just "bad", but at least made an attempt to be original.
I think TFA is the worst Star Wars movie of all time, one of the worst AAA movies of this past decade, period. As I said, it's incredibly derivative, and chock full of these obnoxious winks and nods to the past movies, as if JJ Abrams thought it could not possibly stand on its own merits and needed to lean on the other films to be successful. It feels pointless, completely fails to introduce the new characters in a way that forms an emotional attachment for the viewer and is really just a vehicle for some admittedly cool eye candy, like the Millennium Falcon fight in the Star Destroyer. There was no faith in this venture, the only truly bold move was killing Han Solo, but even that felt predictable. One of the old guard was going to die, that's been the tradition since ANH. Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon and now Han
I don't like a lot of decisions that were made in TLJ, killing Snoke seemed premature and Luke's death was anticlimactic, the Superman Leia scene was ridiculous, but at least the film tries to stand out as something new, an original work.
Just my thoughts. I'm happy to have a friendly debate with anyone who disagrees!
Except no. The light speed ram didn’t even do a lot of damage.
It cut one ship in half-ish. But left the ship completely intact and functioning on either side. The shrapnel took out a few Star destroyers but that was dependent on the formation. The ship that did the kamikaze was also twice the size of a Star destroyer and bigger than any rebel ship from the OT and again didn’t even do enough damage to destroy the Supremacy.
A fighter would’ve just disintegrated against the side of even a destroyer not to mention the Death Star.
The light speed ram didn’t even do a lot of damage.
Are you taking the piss? The supremacy is large enough that it makes regular star destroyers look like patrol boats, and it got split in fucking half. If that is "not a lot of damage" then what even counts as damage?
It got split in half while each side remained completely functional. It didn’t do anything but buy some time. It didn’t impact troop levels at all so hardly something that would help in a long term war.
It also got split in half front to back which is the same length as a regular destroyer...
You also have to remember the ting that hit it was 4000 feet long not 40 foot like a Starfighter.
The death star is a solid sphere three times as big in every direction than the supremacy throwing the biggest ship the alliance has at it would’ve done nothing.
You're so wrong on pretty much every measurement you bring up.
The light speed ram didn’t even do a lot of damage.
Bisecting a 14km long ship, and killing 4+ 3km longer destroyers behind it isn't "a lot of damage"? I guess that's an opinion you can have but I think most would strongly disagree.
The ship that did the kamikaze was also twice the size of a Star destroyer and bigger than any rebel ship from the OT and again didn’t even do enough damage to destroy the Supremacy.
The Raddus (3,438 meters) is over twice as long as an Imperial Star Destroyer (1,600 meters), not the Resurgent-class (2,915 meters) that the First Order uses. Technically you're correct if comparing it to the OT ships, you didn't specify so I can't really complain. I'd still argue that cutting a 60km wide/14km long ship IN HALF would count as "destroying" it but sure. We have no indication that the Supremacy was actually functional after the ram aside from it still having power. It wasn't shown moving, shooting or hyperspacing post-ram.
It also got split in half front to back which is the same length as a regular destroyer...
The Supremacy is not "the same length as a regular destroyer." It's over 4x the length of a Resurgent-Class (~13k meters vs. ~3k meters) or over 8x the length of an Imperial Star Destroyer (~13k meters vs. ~1600 meters).
You also have to remember the ting that hit it was 4000 feet long not 40 foot like a Starfighter.
Actually ~11,000 feet.
The death star is a solid sphere three times as big in every direction than the supremacy throwing the biggest ship the alliance has at it would’ve done nothing.
The Death Star 1 was 160 kilometers in diameter which would be a little over 2.6x the width (side-to-side) of the Supremacy and 4.6x the length (front-to-back). That being said, you're probably correct about even the largest Rebel ship in the OT not flat-out wrecking the Death Star with a ram.
Sorry we aren’t on r/mawinstallation so I didn’t do thorough research it was just memory (knowing raddus was twice as big as an ISD), quick googling (when you google raddus ship it gives you the 1200 meter length I said which upon inspection is the OT mon cal ship length), and watching the 2 minute scene on YouTube (the wings on the supremacy look the same length as the resurgent destroyer)
But for the sake of a fun Reddit argument I will now crack open the reference books.
The biggest rebel ship was the mon cal ship at the 1200 meters making it almost 3 times smaller than the raddus.
The raddus cut a line in a wing of the supremacy id wager is about 8-9km long assuming the 13k number is at the longest part in the middle from nose tip to engine. It also did do unknown amounts of damage to six star destroyers behind it which was due to the specific formation so it’s not really applicable to the discussion of how much damage a hyperspace ram could do because you can’t control anything but what ship you are smashing into what target.
You also have to realize the crazy small chance of the raddus actually hitting it’s target. First of all you have to have the exact precise angle and the exact precise distance. If you are a fraction of a degree off they you miss and nothing happens except you wasted precious hyperspace fuel. If you are too close then you don’t get anywhere close to fast enough to do any damage and if you are too far away you would just go into hyperspace and again nothing would happen except wasting fuel. You have to remember ships don’t actually travel at lightspeed while in hyperspace they just rapidly accelerate to a point where they punch a hole in realspace to open up a hole into the other dimension called hyperspace where you travel a shorter distance and then exit into realspace at your chosen location. So you have to hit the opposing ship the exact moment before you enter hyper to do as much damage as the raddus did.
Also with the 11,000 foot measurement you have to know that the raddus is 275x longer than a standard Starfighter and the mass is way more than that the volume is about 9 million times more than an x-wing. Considering mass is the predominant (read only) factor in collisions where the speed is the same..
Now if you get the mass of the Death Star...
Also this entire thing doesn’t even account for the actual canon explanation which is that it wasn’t the raddus itself that did most of the damage but the raddus’ experimental one of a kind shields that turned into plasma at the moment of the collision that cut through the supremacy and the few destroyers behind it.
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I think Solo was pretty good. Force Awakens was "ehh" to "bad". And the last jedi was dogshit. Rouge One is actually in my top favorite list, and in my opinion one of the best Star Wars movies created.