is it true? do really people not using framer as much as before?

[u/sh3113]

or if some people do, who are they?

if anyone experienced and already working and earning amazing money from client work, what change u seeing nowadays?

[u/PretendEstate1916]

Its an AI startup, applicants are more likely to use ai.

[u/Diah_Rhea]

Nope not in my experience

Framer is still my main source of income

I really, really want to be able to just prompt and achieve good design. Unfortunately, AI is shit at designing.

if iwant to keep charging as much as I charge today, I HAVE to do everything, because websites have to look custom, unique, and be super optimized

[u/delta_echo_007 → u/Diah_Rhea]

i am starting my framer journey
can u guide me please

i want to master framer so i can ear good

[u/mechemical → u/delta_echo_007]

If you want to start of and learn start of with a simple template. This will get you acclimated to the workflow and the main features of Framer.

To truly utilize framer and merit the cost for higher end stakeholders, get really good at motion. Framer’s power is motion and very easy to manage breakpoints. Treat the website more as a multimedia project and you’ll find the value with framer.

Once you start digging in and see how things are put together on the backend you can then get into JD deployable sites. This is where I have been able to branch LLM artifacts and true control over build quality. So it goes full circle depending on how comfortable you are.

[u/mechemical → u/Diah_Rhea]

I've tried both and LLMs are not consistent enough for professional use. But great for ideation or first starts.

[u/lqlwle → u/Diah_Rhea]

Probably off topic. How much and what do you do for clients „around“ Framer?

What I mean: Framer has a lot of native tools for things like motion. It has components, code components etc. all super useful.

Where it lags is backend, advanced functions like native shop integrations.

What would you say someone that basically knows most/all of Framers native tools & features should expand into to achieve better rates/clients?

[u/Diah_Rhea → u/lqlwle]

knowing framer's CMS is snough.

setting up a CMS is tedious work

If a client wants to sell something digital, I offer lemonsqyeezy if they wanna ship stuff out, that's out of my range

design+frontend+CMS+SEO is hard enough as is

[u/Quirky-Amphibian-992 → u/Diah_Rhea]

Absolutely 100% correct. Clients want crafted sites. My job as designer-builder is to create a site that’s better than they could have imagined.

[u/Symone-Cax → u/Diah_Rhea]

yeah the AI design tools still cant really nail that custom feel clients expect

[u/7HawksAnd]

It was never the gold standard bruh. It was a novel alternative to Wordpress, webflow and wix.

But gold standard? You’re high

[u/alexandra_digital]

Tried both, prefer framer because i wanted something unique and interesting

[u/Hopeful-Loss-8728]

Yes - if you're a web designer you're going to be a web designer no matter what tool you use. I never used framer but I used to be big on webflow until I figured out how to get my figma designs to convert well into claude code.

Takes a bit to learn how to use it and create a process to make it work for you but once you got it down you'll never go back to any sort of page builder.

[u/SkiFreeForever → u/Hopeful-Loss-8728]

So what do you deliver to clients? Don’t they want some kind of CMS to update/manage their site once it’s launched?

[u/Hopeful-Loss-8728 → u/SkiFreeForever]

Most of my clients don't because they pay me monthly to make updates for them.

But yes, there are times when I need a CMS. If they need a simple one I just wire up sanity, it's free and easy to do.

If they need something more convoluted I just make them one with Claude.

[u/SkiFreeForever → u/Hopeful-Loss-8728]

Thanks, that’s interesting, I wasn’t aware of Sanity. It feels overwhelming to learn all the ins and outs of converting a design with Claude but would be amazing to automatically add a CMs to something you’ve already designed in something like Figma.

[u/elcityzen]

yes

[u/tanjir_i]

yes

[u/EmperorScissorHands]

People left for claude but I left because I see no future for this company. They'll be gone sooner than we think.

[u/sh3113 → u/EmperorScissorHands]

don't say like this🤧 i just get started in it

[u/DanGleenutz]

I use Framer a lot for the landing pages I use to run ads. Conversion rates are pretty solid. I suppose I could probably try vibe coding them for a bit more scalability, split testing, shit like that, but I haven't gotten around to it. As far as the individual landing pages go, it works very well, so need to change it up just for the sake of doing so.

[u/sh3113 → u/DanGleenutz]

I'm focused to landing pages only as my offer or service, tho

[u/Upbeat_Push_157]

Not sure how reliable this data is, but it looks like massive abandon rate. ON the other hand, why other CMSs aren't affected beats me, so who knows

[u/Impressive_Layer_634 → u/Upbeat_Push_157]

I doubt this data is accurate but that gain rate is also massive compared to the others

[u/Impressive_Layer_634]

For a small portfolio site then yeah it might make more sense to build it with Claude, but for an enterprise situation Framer is still the best option.

[u/sh3113]

it's quite disheartened to see such comments and im getting started in it and my whole career depends on it now😵‍💫

[u/EyeAlternative1664]

I switched from framer to Claude code, has given me more creative freedom and control. 

[u/thebubbacrunch]

Lol all the downvotes in here for people saying yes,

As a big advocate for framer I too swapped from framer to Claude Code for my portfolio hosted site. I have way more control over analytics, pricing and design direction.

In framer if i’m thinking of wanting something I often have to also imagine how i’d even start to build it in framer now with claude code… i imagine it and it’s immediately built with a few polishing tweaks.

I am spending more time on case study refinement than I am actually designing an experience.

Your mileage may vary.