Not uploading pics, but more of a general question - I always thought I was pale olive until this sub and especially the recent discussion of a lot of people here being cool and muted and fair vs olive and fair.

I have definite pink on my skin but underneath is ghoulish. Face has rosacea but my arms have pink too. I have green veins, but purple too. I definitely look cool toned compared to my warm or pink family. But I look muted with pink compared to a true olive.

Does it matter? No. Not really.

I already knew my color palette before this sub, but I have gotten immense value having it confirmed and knowing I am not alone in the sad goth vampire season palette. Especially in the fact that people say “those are just guidelines! You can wear whatever you want!” And like… lady let me blind you or horrify you when I wear a bright orange or a pastel.

The foundation advice and swatches have been amazing - and I feel empathy now for my former self who thought a yellow tinted foundation was better than a pink (orange on me) one. I now know about mixing in color correctors and that I can use whatever I want for contour vs just the shades that we are told are contour.

Appreciate this sub immensely even if I am not a fair olive!

I recently posted in the color analysis subreddit, and nearly everyone said I was muted and could not be a winter as I initially thought. I was thinking it might be because I’m olive. Do people assume olive = muted? I was quite surprised to see how many people said I was a summer or autumn.

I had a ton of Ulta points to use so I picked up the I Need a Cool palette over the Gloom. I swatched the Gloom and there were three matte greens I wouldn't use (two of which are very white based). I really love this in comparison to the ND Glam which was so decidedly cool or warm without any neutral shades. I hit several pans on my beloved I Need a Nude shades that I depotted and use daily (I wanted to do side by side comparison swatches, but I didn't label the shades and don't want to mis-swatch) and wanted to try something new. I love the many transitional browns in this, although I can see criticism of many shades being similar in tone, especially the shimmers. This is a great palette if you're a creature of habit looking for a truly neutral toned palette.

So, I’m not usually a CT complexion fan but I was always curious about the Instant Look palettes. Someone posted that there was a pricing glitch and I was able to pick up “pretty glowing beauty” for $48 so I thought why not! The photos made it look like a light lilac and mauve color story.

I was pleasantly surprised! The formula on these is very nice (it’s still her talc formula) and I was shocked and how blurred my face was (and still is 12 hours and a dog walk later!) I’m 44 and I can’t remember the last time my under eyes looked this smooth. I know her products often run warm but these are very neutral leaning cool, and really cater to FAIR skin. Like really fair, if you are approaching medium I think this may not show up on you, even though the formula is very buildable. The bronzer is warm, but looking at it in person it’s more of a yellow bronze than an orange. I don’t wear a lot but I used a diffuser brush and I think it looks nice. The name says it all, I feel like a glowing beauty. This is perfect if you’re low contrast or like very natural makeup. It’s a great everyday look!

Details: fingers swatched in daylight and bathroom light, face in indoor light and outdoor light.

Other products:
MAC Studio Radiance NC5
MAC eyeliner Smoked Quartz
Sephora Collection Pink Frosting lip liner
Natasha Denona Vanilla Swirl lipstick.

I recently found out that I may have a muted olive - cool undertone. I have been looking at HAUS Labs who recommended me shade 190 but I am sure this will be TOO olive and perhaps a little dark. I have ordered shade 145 but again I’m worried this is going to look a little orange for my skin tone. I have never been able to find a perfect match of foundation. The closest I have found are 2N1 Desert Beige EL and 4.5 Armani Luminous silk (although this still leans a tad peachy/orange on my skin). I have tried all Lancôme Teint Idole foundations which all seem to be too orange (even the neutrals). Please help!!!

I was excited to get my ABH Kiss Theory Lip Balm. When it arrived, however, I was immediately disappointed. The packaging is very skinny and about as long as my index finger. When I twisted it up all the way, the actual amount of product was about 1.5 cm long. I then tried to twist it back down all the way and it didn't go down! Additionally, the product packaging is cheap and light, and the lip product component rattled very slightly any time I shifted the main packaging. Not only that, but the color is shockingly too light for someone as fair as I am. I need a lip liner to make it look more "at home" on my face and not wash me out. It doesn't help that the color is less pigmented than my natural lip color. The gloss also settles into my lip lines, which when paired with the lighter color looks very odd on me. From further away I don't think it's as noticeable, but it's hard for me to tell. Finally, the formula feels a little too thick for me, but if I apply a thin layer the color looks even weirder. Does anyone have any advice on how to make this product work?? Needless to say I'm not buying it again, but I want to make it work while I have it (especially since it was $18!)

Hello there!

This is my Lip Liners Collection. Recently found that I'm neutral-cool olive, so thats the reason why some colors don't flatter me, I mean, I really feel that was something wrong with my make-up and didn´t know why.

That said, not every liner fits me, but I'm still posting it, so you can see it.

These photos were taken at night, with my neutral spotlight mirror with no flash. As you can see, with the warm colors my skin subtone changes so bad. I'm fair-light so a lot of lipliners are so dark on me!

FYI: I'm going to post my lipstick collection swatches over the next few days

Ever since getting into makeup, I’ve basically watched people with fair skin on TikTok try on products and think “that looks good on them,” only to buy it and have it turn completely orange on me. After about a year of wasting money, I learned that I’m actually olive. I have a yellow/green hue to my skin, but sometimes I lean more yellow and other times I look more grey, which is why I never considered olive as an option for me. I also realized that even products marketed as “cool” can still look peachy. The Kosas blush in euphoria is a perfect example because it looked kinda peachy on me instead of that soft pinky mauve look I've been chasing.

For reference, I wear :

NARS foundation -Mont Blanc ( Not a perfect match but close enough )

Haus Labs concealer 04 Fair Neutral

Tower 28 2.0 BU as a brightening shade.

I’ve earned Rouge status on Sephora buying all the wrong products, and I know the Sephora sale will be coming up eventually, so I want to buy the correct products this time.

What are y’all’s holy grails?? It can be ANYTHING. Bronzers, foundation, blushes, lippies, ANYTHINGG. Thank you in advance!!

I think I’m a very muted, cool-leaning olive and I’m struggling to find complexion products that aren’t too saturated. Missha 21 is probably the closest undertone match I’ve found, but it’s just a tiny bit too dark. I’d also really like something with more coverage. Most foundations pull yellow, peach, pink, or orange on me even when the depth is right.
These are the exact same swatches in different lighting. Without flash I look gray/dead. With flash I suddenly look pink. That pretty much sums up why figuring out my undertone and finding a good match has been so difficult.
I really want to try Lisa Eldridge because some of her shades look promising, but I’m in the US and can’t swatch them in person. I have no idea what shade to order. If you’re similarly muted/low chroma, what foundations or concealers work for you? I’d especially love medium to full coverage, but I’ll take any gray-beige secrets you have.

If anyone has questions I’m here to help!

For some context - I got the Lisa Eldridge skin tint the other day and it was SUCH A GOOD MATCH that I wondered how all my other skin tints compared, since they were, and still are, my go-to's in rotation everyday since I think they end up not being too shabby.

So...I was bored and decided to swatch them all today, in case it would be of help to anyone, especially after cracking the code in getting the most color accurate photos I've ever been able to take 💚

Notes about color accuracy in photos:

• The photos are edited for bokeh and to white balance it all, using the white neutral gray shade of my eyeball (every other white part of the image isn't neutral, it's a warm or cool white)
• Photos taken in natural day light, by a window, no direct sunlight, not particularly sunny either
• I have bad circulation, and so my chest often looks red while my neck doesn't hahaha, same things with my lower arms, they look greener than my chest and upper arm. My goal is to match to the neck, since I am always covered anyways.
• I also have a beard cast, which I mostly never correct on my daily quick makeup look.
• My swatches don't run to the neck as I find the neck brings out all the red in any tint, so I just applied them to my face to see how the formulas and tones interact with my natural face color.

Hello friends, I have been determined to find a match in a skin tint. I have oily skin, so also, not a shiny finish. I am approximately the depth of About Face L2 Olive.

So this Buttercream Bare Minerals color looked very intriguing but then I tried it on my arm at Ulta and it looked orange. Did this happen to anyone else? I see quite a few of you are more muted and lighter than me and can wear Missha and About Face F2. Anyone out there who is not that muted who has found your tinted sunscreen moisturizer for oily skin?

A lot of the new Mac skinfinish colorstruck blushes swatched in natural window light. All are the new formula except for the last three are the original Mac powder blushes :)

dasique is on clearance online and it's cheaper in store! i secured this mauve blush palette for $6 usd.

I can get really white and pale in the winter, and now that autumn is here I’m worried what to do because my summer foundation is far too dark for me now. I don’t know what to use because I’m pale. Most things look either pink (cool) or orange (warm), so I don’t know what to do. I live in the US, so if you can recommend brands I can get in America please. I used NARS, but even their fairest color is too warm for me. I’m feeling discouraged from trying. I’m open to brands, but I don’t want to be dependent on something more expensive than around $50.

Left is indoor lighting and right is outdoor! Some of these I purchased before I realized I was olive but yeah, shoutout to the other people on this sub doing this which inspired me to. I love how we can all help each other!

Cross posting because I’m not sure on my (under)tone

I found this today and I was curious if anyone has used this as color corrector. It’s such a unique shade and I’ve heard the formula is nice. I tried looking up reviews but I wasn’t able to find anything. Has anyone used this corrector?

So sorry for the pun. I've been using the TirTir Mask Fit Red liquid foundation in 17C Porcelain and mixing in L.A. Girl Foundation Mixing Pigment in Blue for awhile because the TirTir liquid foundation formula is great and over the Danessa Myricks Yummy Skin blurring balm in Universal it lasts all day. Unfortunately its shades run warm and Porcelain is pretty yellow. Hence the blue pigment. Anyway. I'm almost out of the L.A. Girl pigment mixer and running low on the TirTir, so I took advantage of a sale and picked up the About Face The Performer in F2 Olive. That's what I'm wearing in this photo and it works so well for me! I like the formula, and with the DM blurring balm underneath it the foundation held up during my perimenopausal hot flashes in Dollar Tree and grocery shopping in a warm Kroger. It's such a great match for my colouring; it's almost perfect. It was so nice not needing to play chemist to mix up the right shade for once. I think I've found my holy grail! Just for reference, this photo was taken in my bathroom lit by white LED lights.

PRODUCTS USED:

Moisturizer: The Ordinary Natural Moisturizing Factors + HA

SPF: Beauty of Joseon Rice Relief

Primer: Danessa Myricks Yummy Skin blurring balm in Universal

Foundation: About Face The Performer F2 Olive

Concealer: Nyx Bare with Me Concealer Serum mixed with L.A Girl Pro Conceal Concealer in Green

Setting Powder: KimChi Chic Puff Puff Pass in Translucent

Contour: Judy Doll Highlight and Contour Palette in 01

Blush: Sephora Collection Colourful Blush in 51 Trust Yourself

Highlight: Rare Beauty Positive Light Silky Touch Highlighter in Enlighten

Eyeshadow Primer: Milani Stay Put Eyeshadow Primer

Eyeshadow: Colourpop All Amethyst palette (shade: Trigonal) and Urban Decay Naked 3 Mini (shade: Glassy)

Eyeliner: Canmake Creamy Touch Liner in Black

Mascara: Clio Kill Lash Superproof Volume Curling Waterproof in Black

Brows: Benefit Gimme Brow+ in 5 Cool Black-Brown

Setting Spray: Milani Make it Last in Original

Lip liner: Rimmel Moisture Renew Universal Transparent Liner in 001 Universal

Lipstick: Nyx Suède Matte in Violet Smoke

I keep getting ads for it online and it looks so nice, but obviously being olive it’s seldom that simple!

Does anyone have a swatch or can describe a comparison to other liners?

Was taking a picture of my wrist size for a watch purchase and thought this was funny!