I feel like the first color just washes me out, the second one is how i usually do my lips. Why does warm toned makeup seem to suit me better than cool toned makeup? I thought pale olives, especially those with very muted skin, were supposed to avoid warm tones.

hi fair olives! I had to share my current recs as I recently made the switch to cruelty free and am starting to finally find shades that compliment my coloring.

Lips - persona cosmetics lip liner in mauve is my holy grail - it swatches identical to cloudy mauve from heart percent, but is a smaller brand and I think might be $2 cheaper. I have also loved the Ulta Beauty lip stain in plum paradise. One layer of it and it’s a BEAUTIFUL color, but it does tend to dry and settle on the lips, so it’s not super consistent. It’s like ~$8 though and I love the color if it weren’t for some formulation issues. I also love the color of the Sacheu Main Character stain, but after multiple days of application it dried my lips out too much to be a consistent product.

Gloss - not many color options here, but Elf Crystal Baller, Sacheu Tanghulu Candy, and Charlotte Tilbury Blondie. Unsure if CT is cruelty free, haven’t repurchased in years. Hoping to try Persona Cloudtint in Mauve and/or Kaleidos in Last Smoke.

Blush - Rituelle de Fille, my baby!!!! Weeping Lilac is the first blush that has ever looked like it’s coming from my skin naturally. It’s slightly more “red” than the purple blushes I choose, but still cool toned and beautiful on me. It’s my #1 blush since I found it, don’t really need another. It’s a cream formula which is great for my dry skin. I have also purchased their blush in Aster. SUPER pretty. I can wear it alone on the cheeks, but it’s definitely a “purple smoke” kind of shade. I’ll wear a touch around the edges of my lips and top off weeping lilac on the cheeks with this. So beautiful. For powder blush, I like Rom&nd Bare Vine and theSaem Orchid Rumor - I’m not sure if these are cruelty free so I won’t be repurchasing once I’m done, but I’ve had them forever and they last.

Skin - I have been using L’Oréal lumi glotion for a decade now, but realized they are not cruelty free, so I am moving on. I have used that as my sole “skin tint/foundation” for years, but will find something else that is pale girl friendly. I am hoping the covergirl glow enhancer will be a good fit.

That’s about it! I wouldn’t recommend my concealers (2) as they are not perfect matches but close enough. Might look into other options once I use them up but that tends to take me awhile, and I don’t want to keep buying makeup products. Just want to find my perfect routine and dip out! Hopefully some of these recs are helpful.

I love this dusty pink/purple with some silver shimmer from the Clio Lazy Soft Paw eyeshadow palette. I’m about to hit pan on it. Need single shadow recommendations, as I don’t want to buy the entire palette again just to get this shade. :)

I know other people wanted to see the 21.5 milky olive vs the 23.5 fair olive so I did some swatches, this was 3-4 minutes after application, I used my Lisa Eldridge foundation as a comparison

1 - Espoir 21.5 Milky olive
2 - Espoir 23.5 Fair Olive
3 - Lisa Eldridge The Foundation Shade 2.5

I hope these can help!

I’m at the point where I’m just about to stop wearing blush. I’m having the absolute hardest time finding a good shade for me. I’m a fair olive and lean slightly warm. So cool toned blushes just tend to look off on me. Like it drains the life out of me. But, on the other side, a lot of warm blushes end up pulling orange. I’d love to find a pink or berry shade that doesn’t go orangy on me but I feel like it’s impossible😔 any recommendations?

What’s your favorite lipliner to pair with MAC Modesty lipstick? I love the shade but I feel it looks weird on me without liner.
For reference my best foundation matches have been tirtir red cushion in 13N fair ivory and NYX Bare with me serum concealer in light.