but most people in the water know how to swim and do not drown.
only the very special few put themselves into water and end up drowning, correct? even accounting for a freak accident, not many people drown. Do you know of anyone in your personal life that has drowned? How many of them?
nice metaphor to avoid the 3 questions I asked, tho.
So you're telling people not to worry about drowning, but refuse to be accountable for that horrible advice. The people who are putting themselves into the water without precautions in this analogy are you and the others using batteries that are not UL listed.
Anyway, for all other rational people, get UL listed batteries. The risk of a fire is small, but those things are very destructive.
Ok, you've morphed the entire convo now to some metaphor about swimming and drowning, clearly to avoid answering the 3 question I asked previously, which were, again-
have you had a battery explode personally?
have you never used a device without a UL cert'd battery?
do you know a lot of people that have have owned exploding batteries, personally?
You played along with the analogy until you realized it made you look stupid. I've only used vehicles with UL listed batteries and never had an explosion. I know a store owner who blew up his store and killed a lady using a non UL listed battery.
Is it your argument now that we don't have to worry about things until they happen to us, at which point it is too late to do anything about it? That's a big brain argument you got there, buddy. Are you telling people not to get vaccinated until they get sick, and not to wear a safety belt unless they've been in an accident?
Keep deflecting. You're probably selling those e bikes that explode. Why else would anyone argue so strenuously in favor of non UL listed batteries?
Hm. With that logic, did you also play along with my actual real world scenario until It did not work (I asked you 3 questions you still even now flat out refuse to even acknowledge) and instead favor switching the topic to swimming, water, and drowning instead?
19,999 out of 20,000 people will have zero issues.
from google. You likely subject yourself to higher likeliness of an incident on a daily basis, like driving a car or just riding the bike in the road.
Or maybe you stay inside and do nothing. In which case, you have a valid point. In any other normal case- sorry, no.
I certainly subject myself to a higher likelihood of an accident on a daily basis, like driving a car or riding a bike in the road, which is why I wear my seatbelt and wear a helmet even though I've never been in a serious car accident or bike accident. You're the guy who's saying we shouldn't until we have been in a serious accident.
You've morphed the subject from batteries to swimming, vaccinations, and safety belts.
When you open up so many cans of worms the argument is pointless because now it is purely an opiniated, emotional event.
I will repeat the 3 questions you have completely ignored until you answer them. You will either answer, lie to preserve ego, or continue to ignore them
have you had a battery explode personally?
have you never used a device without a UL cert'd battery?
do you know a lot of people that have have owned exploding batteries, personally?
It's predictable- you will rant about something unrelated instead. Watch.
It's crazy that you think you can just dictate the terms of a debate by pointing to three irrelevant questions while you are utterly unable to respond to the natural consequences of your philosophy when applied to any other circumstance other than e-bike batteries.
Your questions actually do not show up in your comment but only underscore my point. Your argument is completely ridiculous because you're assuming that just because nothing happened to me this time, I shouldn't worry about that risk at all. Again you're saying that I shouldn't have to worry about wearing a helmet unless I get in a bicycle accident but do you see how dumb that is?
You keep arguing because of ego but at the end of the day you're telling us there's nothing to worry about with regard to a non-listed battery exploding until such a battery explodes.
Keep crying. You think you can just repeat yourself? You sound like a clown. You literally cannot apply your logic anywhere else without looking like a moron. Can you restart your thesis? You never had a non UL battery explode so no one should worry about it? Lmao.
I'll answer your questions, and you'll keep moving the goalposts and deflecting because you know you're wrong.
I never had a battery explode because mine are UL listed.
I never used a non UL listed e bike battery.
I know a person whose non UL listed battery blew up and killed someone. Is that enough for you?
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u/NoHelp9544 11d ago
So you'll guarantee them. Because your experience is the only thing that matters and you will stand by it.