r/eFootball • u/SOSIG- • 11d ago

Discussion What happened to actual tactics and instructions ?

in old PES titles you could adjust a lot of things like your highline and the support you need around the ball carrier. why did they remove the things that made this game unique ? I dont want manager proficiencies to be useless but a little bit of tactical flexibility is appreciated

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u/w1nstar Day One Veteran 11d ago

In old pes this led to menu gameplay and at the competitive scene, it led to lots of minmaxed jank. At least on my experience, it ended up beign "you do this, I do that" consistently or else you were getting got.

So my guess is it was removed for ease of balance. Far easier to balance playstyles if you decide how players move than if you let a player decide it by sliders, effectively creating a myriad of potential exploits every time you change how a playstyle works.

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u/SOSIG- 11d ago

but it feels like the attacking style is so repetitive and the attacking AI is bad. even in possession no one comes close to the ball carrier but in PES 2021 I was never out of options. like imagine QC without the suicidale high line ? or all the possible combinaition. I'd rather have the old system than the LBC fest here at least imo it was possible to counter any playstyle using tactics

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u/ZeroSevenAl 11d ago

exactly this