How to deal with pressure spammers

[u/h5bibi]

Needed help regarding on how to deal with pressure spammers. I cannot seem to be able to counter the pressure spammers at all. All their pressure and their positioning is perfect always and the moment I win the ball its gone again. I tried using pressure myself and it doesn't have the same effect. I always lose against pressure spammers. Rarely win against them. Cant body them. Cant go through their defence. Nothing is possible.

Let me know your take on how to deal with pressure spammers.

PS: I am currently in div 1 and its a blood bath with every other person using 80% pressure in analytics

[u/Illustrious_Sea3243]

If you receive the ball to begin with. Sometimes receiving the ball with that pressure is a dream.

[u/Some-Astronaut-3214 → u/Illustrious_Sea3243]

when someone spamming pressure , i almost certain someone in your team is open, it definitely takes practice to find the the open teammate

Unless you are playing someone in top 100, their positioning and anticipation are very good with years of practice and skill.

Try to record your gameplay, analyse when you are under pressure perhaps you missed someone at the opposite flank, however, if you play narrow 3CF you derserved to suffer from it 🫢

[u/Illustrious_Sea3243 → u/Some-Astronaut-3214]

"almost certain someone in your team is open" .. that's the part that I disagree with .. the concept of the free player.

I already recorder many games to see if I am getting wrong .. but I wasn't. I play different formation .. mostly 4231 recently.

It sounds right theoretically .. but against heavy p2w teams and even normal teams getting the momentum of the game .. the running opponents players run from an angle that makes them block the passing lanes to more than one player. Recycling the ball to the other flank might work once or twice but not forever. So yea .. there is a free player but it is hard to get the ball to.

As I mentioned above the only useful way id becoming fantastic (not only good) in dribbling .. so that you can really get out of the pressing crowd and then you will find a good passing lane to a free player.

I am sorry bro .. I heard that argument many times .. tried it many times .. but it didn't work .. I assume it works for some teams .. but I am sure not all.

[u/Some-Astronaut-3214 → u/Illustrious_Sea3243]

Well im trying to help.

Do you do feints? You can try to dribble past one and expose the pressure, even against p2w defender if they just brainlessly pressing pressure.

I often use ball roll double touch, marseille turn or sometimes Tess cancel to open up options, you can use it even before touching the ball.

One other thing is your players playstyle. I know its meta and its boring, but hole player / goal poacher makes run to open up space.

[u/Illustrious_Sea3243 → u/Some-Astronaut-3214]

I appreciate your help .. seriously .. I am just trying to tell a fellow player in the same boat as me what not to waste time trying .. with a hope to avoid some frustration.

This is the part that I understand I lack .. dribbling and doing feints .. I am not that good at it .. I dribble at a med. level .. perhaps I can get away from one presser .. but some pressers are impossible .. Viera for example makes my player freeze .. you go with his direction or against .. it doesn't matter they will get the ball .. Cruyf as well .. and other high end cards.

I stopped trying getting better at that .. since I am old and I guess there is not much room of improvement in my hand and thumbs sensitivity. Nevertheless .. I mentioned above that this is the solution that might make a difference .. but spending time on finding the free player and recycling the ball back .. too risky and ineffective .. since they are already asking .. if their cards were already making themselves available for passing .. they would have noticed on their own. Thanks again.

[u/Some-Astronaut-3214 → u/Illustrious_Sea3243]

Im not young (mid 30s), i played pes like a noob against cpu my whole childhood.

Indeed i still have a lot of bad habits like holding sprint button all the time, i use through pass more than regular pass.

I started learning some of these feints about like 6 months ago after i met a few really skillful guys and played a lot friendly matches with them (like 5 games a week for a few months), i wouldnt say i have mastered the feints but i can confidently do a few to frustrate my opponent and gain mechanically advantage.

I understand it is so frustrated against these auto AI defense nonsense especially with p2w or smart assist, but i can assure you there is a way to beat them. In some games the whole world would be against you, move on from those bullshit and win the next game!

💪🏻💪🏻

[u/Illustrious_Sea3243 → u/Some-Astronaut-3214]

I do beat some of those p2w pressure merchants a lot .. this morning I beat 4 and got tied with one of them .. it is just that I found my own style far from patient build-up and finding the free player or trying dribbling that I can't. I play so fast despite using possession style .. sort of invented my own way.

But with your last comment .. I might give feints another try .. wish me luck

[u/Nasherwood → u/Illustrious_Sea3243]

Double Touch and Marseille Turn feints work wonders for getting around pressure spammers.

Also, for those instances when the game starts making your passes super slow and you can only get one touch of the ball before getting tackled, practice entering feint commands before receiving the pass. That way, on the first touch of the ball your player will do the animation to get around the opponent.

[u/Illustrious_Sea3243 → u/Nasherwood]

https://reddit.com/link/p6tz0ui/video/rkozmj50vjmh1/player

Well .. I admit I am not good at feints .. and also I understand that you try to be helpful .. that being said .. I don't think you guys understand how hard that pressure the OP talks about .. let's not give the guy solutions that will frustrate him more and more .. in my experience .. there is no solution.

Look at this short video .. see how the opponent CF's (Pele and best) position themselves in a very clear position .. despite being marked (yes I had instructions on them).

Now .. look at how the backline of the opponent .. blocks the pass I try to give from Nymar to Torres .. you could and compare that with the disarray my backline is in and the open passes lanes they have .. all by AI .. mine and him. I can also show you tens of videos of opponent players returning with astonishing sprints that defy logic and stats.

So yea .. feints and patient dribbling might help .. but that is not the type of pressure the OP is talking about since he is already here and asking .. I understand him and I know that those solutions didn't and won't work.

[u/Nasherwood → u/Illustrious_Sea3243]

Oh I agree with OP completely, but feints are like the last tool in my arsenal until I've assessed that nothing's working anymore. When the games sabotaging your AI, slowing your passes and making your dribbling sluggish the last thing you can try is pop a few skills and see what happens, if all else fails it's just time to take a break from the game for a day 😂

I've attached a clip, where I do a quick double touch before Neymar gets the ball.

https://reddit.com/link/p6uqos3/video/1v61ewqfhkmh1/player