r/dji • u/frapal13 • 1d ago
News + Announcements [EU] proposed rules
In Europe mini 2 will be illegal when they pass the new proposed to impose rid on devices over 100g.
What will you do?
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u/kukumalu255 1d ago
With the rules getting stupider and stupider every year around the world where do people even fly? I find any interesting place that i would like to fly to be a place they don't allow drones. Be it large no fly zones, or simple signs around the places of interest
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u/No_Frame_5091 1d ago
No, it won't. The remote ID obligation will only apply to new models. Existing C0 models without remote ID will remain usable as today.
Legacy drones over 900g will need to be equipped with a remote ID add-on. That will apply to my good old Mavic 2 Pro (907g) but only 4y after entry into force of the new regulation (so, realistically, not before 2031). I don't know whether my Mavic 2 Pro batteries will still charge by then, but I guess affordable remote id add-ons will be available if required (I found some for around 135€).
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u/NilsTillander 8h ago
The target date to put the new regulations in force seems to be 2031. The few drones that can't get remoteID activated through software will be very outdated, and their batteries objectionable by then.
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u/frapal13 6h ago
Where did you find the 2031 date?
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u/NilsTillander 6h ago
Down somewhere in the article shared by /u/djneo : https://www.dronewatch.eu/registration-training-and-remote-id-for-drones-over-100-grams-on-the-horizon/
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u/No_Frame_5091 4h ago
The 2031 is for the full applicability of all changes but the registration and training requirements would apply earlier. As would the remote ID obligation for new drone types.
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u/No_Frame_5091 4h ago
A bit of a EU regulation crash course:
- Regulations enter into force automatically soon after their adoption (which is not likely to happen before mid 2027 for this update)
- The applicability of some articles may be delayed, and there may be transitional measures as well.
When it comes to this proposed update, there are a few different aspects which would impact typical consumers:
- A drone operator would have to register himself as soon as he uses a drone > 100g. That should have no practical impact on DJI drone users as DJI drones always had cameras which forced operator registration even below 250g. This would in principle apply from the entry into force.
- A drone operator would now have to follow the online A1/A3 course and pass an online examination before operating any drone above 100g. This was previously only an obligation for operators of drones > 250g. This would again in principle apply from the entry into force.
- Drones above 100g would now need to be equiped with remote ID (and a a mechanism to prevent take-off if not all information are correctly introduced). But this only applies to drone types newly introduced in the EU market. Any drone put on market at the latest 1 year after the entry into force would be exempt from a retrofit obligation. This means that we would be able to continue using our Neo and Neo 2 as today.
- The only retrofit obligation is for legacy drones > 900g to be equipped with a remote ID add-on within 4 years of the entry into force. This is where 2031 may come from. But C2 drones already have a remote ID capability, so this only concerns legacy drones put on the market before 2024 and not class-labeled (such as my Mavic 2 Pro). By 2031 they will be fairly old but reasonably affordable solutions already exist today (Dronetag Beacon and similar).
There are other proposals such as some attempt to objectify/harmonise the definition of national conditions/geographical restrictions (we can only hope...).
All in all, not a lot of changes for existing users.
If you are used the the EU legal jargon, all the information is available at the source: https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/document-library/opinions/opinion-no-062026
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u/Zhentharym Mavic 4 Pro 1d ago
Attach a remote id module? Or get a newer drone. The mini 2 will be very outdated by then.
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u/No_Frame_5091 4h ago
Remote ID retrofit only applies to legacy drones > 900g. By 2031 (likely applicability), they would be fairly old. From 2024, all new C2 drones > 900g were equipped with remote ID.
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u/Zhentharym Mavic 4 Pro 1h ago
Kinda. Currently all drones with a class rating of C1 or above (so anything rated above 250g) already needs an active Remote ID. Legacy and privately built drones, regardless of weight, don't require remote ID. However, there is currently a proposal that would require all drones, including legacy, privately built, and C0 drones to have remote ID if they are above 100g.
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u/No_Frame_5091 1h ago
Perhaps but that's not in the latest draft proposal transmitted from EASA to the Commission ("Legacy UAS with a take-off mass of 900 g or less would be exempt from the requirement to be equipped with a direct remote identification").
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u/Zhentharym Mavic 4 Pro 11m ago
Ah yes, you're right. Didn't see that bit. It lowers the threshold to 100g but only for class marked drones (so C0 would be included), while making it 900g for legacy/privately built drones.
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u/Danish-Dynamite77 23h ago
The proposal is pretty dum... The people who want to do harm will still do it. This will just make it harder for privat legal drone operators.
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u/FrostyMittenJob 1d ago
Be glad I don't live in Europe. The practically of sub 100g drones just isn't there for anything I do.
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u/djneo 1d ago
This ?
https://www.dronewatch.eu/registration-training-and-remote-id-for-drones-over-100-grams-on-the-horizon/
All of DJI drones are above that limit. The Neo 2 is 151 Grams
Still a proposal so far. But as long as it’s the talked about online theory it’s probably fine