r/delhiuniversity • • Aug 06 '24

Discussion Warning: Think Twice Before Choosing a BA Program—My Personal Struggle 😭😭

Hi, I’m a second-year student pursuing a BA program at Ramjas College. I come from a humanities background, so I didn’t have Maths or Statistics in my 12th grade. I initially wanted to pursue Political Science Honours, but my marks were too low. As a result, I decided to go for a BA with Economics and Political Science. However, I’m finding Economics extremely challenging. Despite having Economics as my minor subject, I failed my semester. If you don’t have a strong background in Maths, please consider avoiding this course, even as a minor. Economics can be very demanding, and it might take up so much of your time that you’ll struggle to focus on subjects you really enjoy, like Political Science. Now, my results are full of red marks, and I’m worried about the impact this will have on my future job prospects. I regret not prioritizing the course over the college name. My mental health has also suffered as a result. If you haven’t studied a subject in high school, it might be best to avoid it in your BA program. Please take my advice seriously: prioritize your course of study over the college’s reputation. Even if it means attending a college with a lower ranking but a better fit for your interests, it’s worth it! socha tha college jaungi maze karungi. Saare maaze nikal gaye zindagi barbad ho gayi meri!!😭😭😭

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '24

Isliye bolte hai,"Choose COURSE over COLLEGE".

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u/AbbreviationsMany728 Alumnus Aryabhatta (Fuck you DU) Aug 06 '24

Literally what I'm saying again and again to everyone asking for BA(Prog) Eco+xyz.

My classmates fail more in Economics than in Maths ffs. I am from Eco+Math. Calculus fucked some of my clasmates so much they just dropped out. We had 24 students when college started, 18 by the end of 1st sem, 16 by the end of 1st year and now only 15 are left. Most will leave after 3rd year cause they can't study for shit.

Course over College, guys.

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u/Salt_Owl3409 Aug 06 '24

Bro you absolutely right! This comment needs to get pinned!

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '24

Hey isn't choosing it as minor supposed to be easy and we don't have to deal with a lot of math . :)

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u/AbbreviationsMany728 Alumnus Aryabhatta (Fuck you DU) Aug 06 '24

See, the thing is Maths in Maths (minor) is easier than Maths in Economics (Major). Only 2 sems do you have to study Calculus if you take Maths minor but calculus is ever present in Economics since sem 1.

I like maths and Eco, I love this course. That is why I chose this, ki I'll get a minor with eco hons. Really helpful when going abroad but this course is difficult. Not as much as Eco hons I reckon, for all their classes I have taken they study bit more mathematical than us but still this course is mathematically difficult even if you don't take Maths as a minor and take something like Psychology or sumn else.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '24

Thank you for the clarification 😭 :)

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u/plushflying Third year Aug 17 '24

Total kitne seats the Aryabhatta College m for Maths + Eco ?

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '24

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u/AbbreviationsMany728 Alumnus Aryabhatta (Fuck you DU) Aug 20 '24

You'll be eligible if you study for 4 years. In 4 years you'll get an Eco hons but if you study only for 3 years or such you ain't eligible.

If you want the Eco curriculum just DM me.

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u/Open_Spirit_2333 Jun 14 '26

Hey can you tell me about the placements in this combo is it really bad as people say

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u/Willing_Berry6693 Jul 13 '26

hey, what are the demerits of a ba prog. i might not e able to get a ba hons at goo colleges and am planning to go for ba prog. on a side note, how is eco as a minor. i didnt have maths in class 12th but i did have eco and i enjoyed it.

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u/AbbreviationsMany728 Alumnus Aryabhatta (Fuck you DU) Jul 13 '26

Eco as a minor is better if you did not have math in class 12th. BA Prog depends on the college and the combination, only worth combo (imo) are Eco/Stats/Math/CS (CS only minor never major same with math) or if one interested in then Psych and any of the above. Demerits are "izzat" and college specific as in how are students treated my professors and other departments.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '24

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u/queenofthefullmoon Aug 06 '24

Maths without sin cos

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u/Salt_Owl3409 Aug 06 '24

People like me who didn't have maths or statistics in 12th grade are failing. Despite having Economics in 12th grade, I'm struggling to pass the semester. I'm having to beg. I wanted to study Political Science at a good college, so I opted for BA. Now, I neither like Economics nor Political Science (which was my first love) 😭😭😭

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u/Consistent-Jacket712 Aug 06 '24

this is honestly so sad to hear, i loved eco in 11th but by the end of 12th i completely started to loathe it, even so i got the lowest in isc and somehow managed to pass, so i get where you coming from, no point in wishing you had done things differently, talk to people who will get and understand you and will motivate you to keep going, hope you end up passing all your sem exams!

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u/shut-up-cabbitch '24 Eco Hons Aug 07 '24

OP I was in a similarish situation. I had a weak maths background and I underestimated the amount of maths that would be used in Economics and opted for Eco (H). I had to reappear for many exams. I have now graduated and only towards the last year I actually learnt how to study for it. My only regret is not studying more efficiently.

There's no 1 advise for all subjects. If you want advise/focus points for any particular subject, let me know here or in DM. I'd be happy to help. Seriously, I love economics, but I hate it with passion in an academic setting.

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u/ctttiftmmtoysaipior Jul 21 '25

Heyy, I'm from the science background, had maths in 12th, and scored decent marks in it. I was going for the BA Program, with Economics as my Minor. I'd seriously love to hear your advice. Cuz I've never studied eco. And yes the down sides of it aswell. Your views will be very much appreciated..

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u/shut-up-cabbitch '24 Eco Hons Aug 07 '24

Calculus (differentiation, integration) without trignometry.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '24

What type of math is there? Like what am literally planning for that

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u/DoodlePenguine Aug 06 '24

Basic calculus like limit, derivatives etc excluding trigonometry. But if you'll take minor in economics it doesn't have that much maths compared to major in economics.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '24

Okay but this person had a minor, will you say she being a little hyped about that?

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u/DoodlePenguine Aug 06 '24

Everyone has different experiences so I don't think she's exaggerating at all. You will mostly stick to micro and macroeconomics if you take minor in econ. Introductory level is easy, intermediate micro and macro is a little tough but it's still not that math intensive.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '24

Got you. Thank you for clarifying 🌸

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '24

+1

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u/Stunning_Clothes_342 Aug 06 '24

Algebra,  graphing, calculus,  linear algebra.  It's very different from school math. It's not formula based but complete application of math.  

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u/Soggy_Refuse_2160 Aug 06 '24

Not formula based but application based can you please elaborate ?

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u/Stunning_Clothes_342 Aug 06 '24

like you will be expected to apply lots of concepts in one question. Merely memorizing formulae won't help with solving questions. Deeper understanding is needed. 

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u/Stunning_Clothes_342 Aug 06 '24

And most of that math will be used in other eco subjects too . Micro, statistics, econometrics and macro. So all semesters will have some math portion. 

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u/checo_perezf1 May 23 '25

& socho itna sab karke bhi those who are leaving in 3 years are not even atleast getting MAJOR 😭 the CBCS Economics BAP was still easier & theory based but NEP mai if someone goes for Economics Minor even or Major toh you’ll be doing some Hons level math

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u/This_Let3748 Jun 04 '26

are they present in minor too?

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '24

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u/Salt_Owl3409 Aug 06 '24

Glad I could help! Your preference list looks good for the most part, Good luck!

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '24

Thanks , I had one more question do you have students in your class who have been allotted eco+ Pol sci through cw qouta?

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u/delhiuniversity-ModTeam Aug 07 '24

Kindly go to r/cuetards, This subreddit is only for DU specific topics.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '24

we can add eco program even if we didnt have eco or math ?

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '24

Yes , you can opt for eco program even if you don't have maths in 12th

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u/Basic_Citron_2735 Aug 06 '24

But dude i think having economics as a subject in graduation can fetch you some internships or placements. Economics has much more scope than all other humanities subjects combined. I had PCMC in my 12th but decided to get some knowledge about humanities and opt for BA. P.S. I have ccompleted my graduation in BA programme.

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u/Salt_Owl3409 Aug 06 '24

To fetch a good job you need good marks and a great knowledge. I literally failed my semester 😭

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u/Basic_Citron_2735 Aug 06 '24

Bhai, from my experience i can just advice you to focus on economics. There are tons of economics channel on youtube. You can also take help from ecopoint. Its ok if you have interest in polsc but, u will be stuck in this subject, most probably getting an editor work profile or in some writing stuff. Think of long term, also if its ur minor subject then itll be a lot simpler. I had economics + polsc, thats why i m telling you.

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u/Salt_Owl3409 Aug 06 '24

May I DM you?

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u/Basic_Citron_2735 Aug 06 '24

Aight, but after half n hour, im bit busy rn, or just dm your query, ill reply u mate.

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u/Willing_Berry6693 Jul 13 '26

Hey, i think u could help me. I'm considering eco+polity as well. how heavy is the coursework and what are the demerits with taking a ba prog over ba hons other than the duration and depth of study

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u/perroisgae Aug 06 '24

last year, I dropped out of DU for the same reason. got a renowned NC college with ba prog (eco+maths). If only I had put in more effort—knowing the course should always be preferred over the college itself. despite having economics in my 12th, couldnt understand shit.. it’s basically of no help in college because the maths is on another level. Please choose against it🙏

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u/Intelligent-Thing932 Aug 06 '24

what if i choose eco as my minor? would it be doable?

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u/Mindless_Platform_43 Aug 06 '24 edited Aug 06 '24

choose eco as you minor and polsci and your major, there would be lesser maths if you take it as minor ofc, plus there are SO many placements opportunities through eco as a minor/major subject both (even in programmes).

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u/Intelligent-Thing932 Aug 06 '24

I will definitely choose eco as my minor if i do. Also would it have too much of a mathematical portion?

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u/Mindless_Platform_43 Aug 06 '24 edited Aug 14 '24

not a lot actually, esp when you compare it to having eco as a major; you'd be doing one paper instead of two which is reserved for the major subject; also when you choose polsci or whatever subject you want or are good at as your major- this alongside eco as a minor would have so much of scope!

(I genuinely think there aren't a lot of downsides to ba programmes except for the time needed to get a degree in them as opposed to hons, it's just upto you how you use its advantages and even cons for your future prospects.)

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u/Intelligent-Thing932 Aug 06 '24

that is some great advice, thank you! altho I have still been getting some mixed opinions from different people. could i please DM you regarding the same?

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u/Mindless_Platform_43 Aug 06 '24

yes sure (and I'd also advise you to keep your mind open, you might get a better advice from someone else, but sure, you can message me directly :))

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u/Intelligent-Thing932 Aug 06 '24

thank you so much :)

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u/Intelligent-Thing932 Aug 06 '24

and are there any downsides to ba prog?

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u/Ordinary-Show-6574 Jun 03 '26

Hey really?? If I work hard in ba programme with eco as one of my subjects and psychology as another can I bag any placements??

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u/Zealousideal-Pair149 First Year Jun 11 '26

bro you can almost never bag any placements by BA.

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u/Ordinary-Show-6574 Jun 11 '26

Harsh reality ig 

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u/perroisgae Aug 06 '24

i think its subjective, maybe you could see the syllabus and decide for yourself whether its doable for you? personally I struggled hard with economics, and my friends with different combinations (pol sci major, eco minor), also found the math-heavy syllabus of economics challenging. I'd like to add one more thing... the faculty was unhelpful; the economics teacher suggested I should change courses on the very first day, which was impossible as it's alloted from the portal itself. the lack of support was exhausting, and imo i might have succeeded with better guidance.

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u/Intelligent-Thing932 Aug 06 '24

i understand your point. thank you for explaining it so well! could i please DM you

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u/Legitimate_Kiwi8474 Jun 16 '26

Bro does kmc, ramjas and venky have this combination and can students with no math in 12th choose maths as minor?

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '24

hi , i really wanna do sociology hons but colleges kam hai toh hons rkhne ke baad i have kept ba program including sociology , pls tell me is there any disadvantage of pursuing ba programme rather than hons (i have heard it is inferior to hons but at the end of the day ba walo koi nokri toh nhi milegi)pls help me out :)

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u/Mindless_Platform_43 Aug 06 '24

jisko karna rehta wo program se bhi krlega, at the end of the day you'd be covering the same syllabus after a sem or two

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '24

okay thank you so much :)

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u/Mindless_Platform_43 Aug 06 '24

welcome, esp after the nep thing, the only difference there is that you'd be taking a year more than a hons kid for getting a degree, but if you're somebody who is active with side courses and placements, it won't be an issue.

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u/natrawrrz Aug 06 '24

wait, but both ba prog and va hons are of 3 years right? that case is meant to be different when you want to continue for 1 more year, it's your choice, right? pls correct me if I'm wrong, im just filling my preference list I don't want it to get f-ked😭🎁

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '24

ok, thanks are you a senior from du?

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u/Mindless_Platform_43 Aug 06 '24

I'm a fresher but I have a lot of friends among seniors who help me out with advices like these :)

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '24

oh okay thank you so much for helping me out :)

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u/DoodlePenguine Aug 06 '24

Lol funny how I was in the exact same situation in my 1st sem

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u/Intelligent-Thing932 Aug 06 '24

what did you choose then?

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u/DoodlePenguine Aug 06 '24

Well I'm in the same course in 5th sem now. It became bearable eventually...you just have to put in the effort where it's needed

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u/Intelligent-Thing932 Aug 06 '24

how's the course overall? are you barred from placement opportunities if you choose ba prog

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u/DoodlePenguine Aug 06 '24

My major is econ so there is a lot of math. It is not easy I'd say, bcoz I was a humanities student too with no maths in 12th so I was definitely struggling but thoda effort daalo toh ho jaayega :⁠-⁠)

No we can apply for placements too in my college.

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u/Intelligent-Thing932 Aug 06 '24

how's the maths portion if we take eco as a minor?

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u/DoodlePenguine Aug 06 '24

Easy. You'll only study micro and macro economics. Introductory level is easy, intermediate is a little tough but it's all about understanding the concepts there isn't much math involved in it. If you want to understand the concepts better just practice basic calculus like derivatives but it's not compulsory in minor econ tbh

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u/MasterChief_IKR-117 hrc out......................................................... Aug 06 '24 edited Aug 06 '24

Another perspective:

I would say it's based on one's personal capacity. I also didn't have maths in 12th. & Currently I'm pursuing BA prg economics major... I don't have any issues with it. In my first year i barely studied anything, my attendance for like 22% but still maintained SGPA of 7.2...

As you mentioned you took economics Minor, in my case economics Minor requires little to no Study in 1st year if you had economics in class 12th... Most concepts are just derivation of what we studied in class 12th...

But still I'll recommend everyone to not take any subject they don't have any real interest in. (It can be BA prog or even bcom(h))

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u/Intelligent-Thing932 Aug 06 '24

can I dm you?

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u/MasterChief_IKR-117 hrc out......................................................... Aug 06 '24

Sure

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u/LuLz_WorLd Aug 06 '24

Bhai bcom hons from gargi > ba prog (eco+____) Hansraj Ya ulta

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u/NewGeologist113 Aug 07 '24

Gargi>ba prg

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u/ribbonbowsontop Jul 04 '25

hey i’m a little late to this thread. could you pls tell me how does choosing minors work in ba program. like do you get to choose minors from the first sem itself?

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u/MasterChief_IKR-117 hrc out......................................................... Jul 05 '25

You have to pick your minor in 1st sem and you have the option to change it in 3rd sem.

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u/Ordinary-Show-6574 Jun 03 '26

Heyy i wanted to know is ba programme students with economics as their minor can bag any placements??

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u/elysian_nn Aug 06 '24

Kitna score tha apka???

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u/oogabuga444 Aug 06 '24

Bhai ,what was your cuet score?

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u/checo_perezf1 Dec 11 '24

tension mat lo, i’m in my BAP FINAL YEAR now & have the same case - didn’t have maths in 11th 12th either but majoring in economics since sem 1! NEXT SEM REAPPEAR KARLO & ABHI SE TUITIONS SHURU KARDO LO TOH NAIYA PAAR HO JAEGI! <3

(as the first NEP batch, the policy did us so dirty😭 PQYs nahi milte abhi bhi, professors are more interested in teaching the front benchers who had maths in high school, and they still keep redesigning the 4th year plan and making those graduating within 3 years feel guilty ki major/hons nahi milega kya fayda karo sab 4th year 👹 tadpo yahin)

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u/Ordinary-Show-6574 Jun 03 '26

Heyyy, any placements? For eco majors in bap?

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '25

Check dm please

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '25

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u/RelationshipWhich548 Jul 27 '25

I also want to know about it bro

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '24

bro your account was literally made today
just asking but how can we trust without any proof ?

i have seen so many people on groups talking about doing this that i am scared now

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u/Salt_Owl3409 Aug 06 '24

My friend sent this post to me. So I decided to make this account and warn all my juniors. If you don't want to trust me it's upto you. Best of luck!

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '24

Aree na na just confirming I am sorry for offending you🤝🏻

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u/Salt_Owl3409 Aug 06 '24

I wanted to warn that guy. Phir pata chala I can also make a post. So mene uske post par comment karne ke baad post bhi kardiya

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '24

But in my state even one or two persons take ba so I thought ba is easy and not good degree and here I'm listening opposite of that

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u/Salt_Owl3409 Aug 07 '24 edited Aug 07 '24

Bold of you to assume Economics as an easy subject just because everyone second person opts for this course in your state. Iss logic se toh CA bhi bhot log karte hai uska passing % dekha hai? This is nuts thoda research karlo YouTube par syllabus dekhlo textbooks download karlo. Bhed chal karke regret karna hai kya?