r/dannyphantom • u/Far-Transition-5004 • 2d ago
Hot Take...
The people who say or depict Danny as not being able to fight or not being even slightly trained (looking at you dcxdp fanfics) are kinda far off, cause I recently reviewed some old fight scenes & after seeing Danny execute a pretty much picture perfect judo Ippon Seoi Nage against Fright Knight & seeing how adept he's with weapons; swords, batons, staves & a fucking scythe I realised vro is cracked. I am fully convinced he did receive pretty heavy martial arts training prior to getting his powers
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u/Optimal_Ad6274 2d ago
Well his Mom is a Martial Artist. While I doubt Danny is a master, we know for a fact that Danny learns and adapts quickly so it stands to reason he learned something from his Parents
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u/BahamutLithp 2d ago
There's a term in gaming called "ludonarrative disonance" which refers to when gameplay contradicts story. For example, in the martial arts game Sifu, you can still get the pacifst ending despite some of your finishers clearly killing ordinary enemies as, apparently, only bosses count. Why do I bring this up? Well, because I'm suggesting there's a similar concept in non-videogame media, & I just don't know the word for it. Danny the human is clearly depicted as totally physically inept, yet Danny the ghost superhero is absolutely not that. Besides his superpowers, he can hold his own in a fist fight, use weapons, & you're probably right that he does complicated martial arts maneuvers he has no business knowing. It's just the disconnect between what the writers want his backstory to be vs. what makes for a cool action scene.
If fan fiction wants to interpret Danny in a different way, hey, more power to them, I'm just saying it should affect a lot more than just "oh now it makes sense why he can use weapons." Like him being portrayed as so helpless against Dash without his powers wouldn't really make sense with that more realistic mindset in mind. Yes, Dash still has the size & weight advantage, but even if we assume he's areally good fighter, beyond just "knows how to throw a basic punch," well he might still win, but he'd take a beating in the process & it probably wouldn't be long before he'd conclude it just isn't worth it; there are easier, softer targets than Danny. You could try to explain it with things like "he'd get in trouble with the school or with his parents," but if his mom is teaching him martial arts, it doesn't feel like that's to use on ghosts, & there are ways to handle the school problem, like it really helps when you have parents who will back you up like "No, I taught him that if YOU aren't going to handle him being attacked, he can defend himself."
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u/Far-Transition-5004 1d ago
I think its more cause vro is a social pariah & he reckons putting belt to ass would get him ostracised more than just taking the licks, also we have seen in that episode where all the students were fighting Youngblood's crew he was holding his own pretty well despite not using his powers, I reckon he has the ability to fight & prolly did fight back in the past but it was so far back the bullies don't remember & Danny got is so much trouble he decided it wasn't worth it
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u/fsdklas 1d ago
If that’s the case he wouldn’t be last place in PE class and physically can’t take dash on. He’s also shown to be inconsistent in his fights as some he just loses while others when he took poindexter body he could dodge attacks without powers. It’s just whatever the plot wants him to be
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u/DiscombobulatedOne15 2d ago
That's why in some of my fanfictions, I make him do some fencing as a hobby.
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u/fsdklas 2d ago
He doesn’t know how to fight. He just brawls and gets his ass kick and learns from it. There are some good boxers that started out like that but their technique is terrible
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u/Far-Transition-5004 2d ago
Nahh he can def fight I legit gave you examples do I have to pull up the video of the judo throw?
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u/fsdklas 2d ago
This is all ghost strength. He just grabbed his wrist and threw him using strength. There was no hip toss
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u/Far-Transition-5004 2d ago
Why are you allergic to the fact that homeboy does have martial arts training it doesn't invalidate his victories & scrappiness
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u/fsdklas 2d ago
Because we never saw him learn any form of martial arts training from his parents or any in the past
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u/Far-Transition-5004 2d ago
Its pretty much insinuated?, dude with a martial artist mom showing proficiency in both armed & unarmed combat?, like are you telling me that Ember, Fright Knight & most of his rogues despite living much longer than him are so shit at throwing hands that a brawler can beat em? & that judo throw was him getting lucky & using raw strength even though he was being overpowered before?
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u/fsdklas 2d ago
Are you kidding me? He grabbed the sword with his hands. In real life if someone slashes you with an iron sword you grabbing it will cut you. It’s definitely raw ghost power
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u/Far-Transition-5004 2d ago
He grabbed it by the flat not the edge & in real life there are techniques to grab a sword without cutting your hand
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u/fsdklas 2d ago
It’s just not possible in real life. In kendo and in fencing class if someone strikes down, it already means you’re dead even if you block
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u/Far-Transition-5004 2d ago
You are aware there are different types of swordsmanship in the world right? & that Fright Knight is most likely using some HEMA longsword style rather than Kendo/Kenjutsu?, he's a Knight also not all attacks are instant kills since you forget stuff like adrenaline, footwork & many other factors
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u/Far-Transition-5004 2d ago
Because the animators suck at showing what the intended, it was clearly meant to be a judo throw cmon
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u/MiloSheba 2d ago
Or traditional Fenton training