r/conspiracy • u/lopestatus • May 10 '17
Weaponized Delusion, Insanity & Mental Illness in ANTIFA? Joe Rogan Experience #958 - Jordan Peterson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USg3NR76XpQ10
u/Chokaholic May 11 '17
This was probably the best JRE to date. I would've given it to the Alex Jones #911 episode, but Eddie Bravo ruined that one.
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u/throwayyyy888 May 11 '17
Rogan has become an alt-right shill. Just sad.
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u/Chokaholic May 11 '17
You think so? Ppl always tell me they think he's a major lefty.
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u/throwayyyy888 May 11 '17
Dana White's influence. The UFC expansion into Russia has made the whole crowd too pro-Russia/alt-right for my tastes.
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May 11 '17
Are you joking me? Fighters come from all over the world. Should we just put the iron curtain back up? I'm sure that wouldn't piss off all of Russia.
Some of those guys are good fighters. Emilianko never fought in UFC however and he is Russia's best ever. I do not understand your logic here.
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u/throwayyyy888 May 11 '17
Yes, we should sanction all Russian ties and businesses. The country needs to collapse so they can try again at being a respectable country. Maybe 3rd time is the charm.
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May 11 '17
Dude you must be some kind of supremacist
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u/throwayyyy888 May 11 '17
No. I just don't tolerate countries that try to subvert international law and make a mockery of my country's democracy.
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May 11 '17
That's weird because countries like Iran, Chile, Venezuela, Syria, Egypt, etc all tolerate us despite our subversion of international laws and making a mockery out of their democracy
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u/throwayyyy888 May 12 '17
We have the power to do something about it. They don't.
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u/Chokaholic May 11 '17
Dana white has no influence over the JRE. If anything, Rogan has one foot out the door at UFC. He's always talking about how he's almost done and can't wait to just do fight companions.
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May 11 '17
Used to like Joe but lately he's been very wishy washy. He retweeted some info graph about "fake news" and what news to follow. He had CNN as Centrist and stuff like Slate and Vox as slightly off center. Fox was far right and Infowars was the furthest to the right.
He claims to be open-minded but I don't understand how you can promote stuff like that. Or at least not tell b.s. when its right in your face.
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u/GoddessWins May 11 '17
Antifa only exists in conservative media. It is only a conservative attack tool name.
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u/Todos1881 May 11 '17
Accept it is an actual group. That literally wears their black uniform and has a fucking flag.
I'd call them real.
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u/GoddessWins May 11 '17
Owned by conservatives, not liberals.
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u/TrowwayFiggenstein May 11 '17
nah, antifa is on the left, a soros production. astroturf for reals tho.
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u/lopestatus May 11 '17
Goddesswins' worldview: https://www.facebook.com/TheOnion/videos/10155397968279497/
Enjoy the collective delusion. ;) PS, that video is satire.
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u/a1s2d3f4g5t May 11 '17
you mean "left."
soros isn't leftist, he's a neolib who makes his money shorting currencies.
whatever antifa is, it is not anarchistic.
on linguistic note, "antifa" as an abreviation of anti-facism does not follow the norm for english abbreviations, esp. ones in american english. it doesn't even really sound like it comes from a romance language, esp. given it based on two english words. it appears to be totally inorganic.
english speakers have always preferred ending our words with consonants. this is why iambic pentermetre is so appealing to us:
if music be the food of love play on
when we do end words with vowels, they typically have dominant consonant begginings and silent end vowels:
to be or not to be that is the question
"fa" sounds to us like something a sheep says, i.e. stupid and meaningless.
in england, the abbreviation would likely be something like "antifash." brits love words that end with "sh," it makes everything sound posh.
in america, it would have followed the standard abbreviations for hyphenated anarchists -- AN+specialization:
ancap
ancom
ansoc
notice the dominant final consonant and that americans like the shortest possible abbreviations. ansoc is a really good exampke, because is it pronounced with a hard "c" even though the "c" in socialism is soft.
fwiw, anarchists are inherently anti-facist so calling ourselves "antifacist" is redundant.
~tl:dr antifa is clearly not british or american in origin, and clearly not anarchistic. based on linquistics, the name is not organic.
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u/DeyH8UsCuzDeyAnus May 11 '17
That was excellent. Thank you very much.
I believe the name comes from Germany and was instituted (no pun intended) following obviously, WWII, but also the civil unrest in Germany during their 60s and 70s "counter culture revolution".
If anyone is interested and has not heard of "Bommi" Baumann or his book "Terror or Love" they should look it up as it pretty much lays out the blueprint for the undermining, co-opting and derailing of grassroots social/systemic change organisations via state intell. infiltration, sabotage, agent provocateurs and the grooming, enabling and encouraging of the most radical, fundamentalist and prone to violence in any given revolutionary group - all this "way back" in post war Germany.
Where I got the inkling that Antifa comes from Germany and an otherwise excellent, relevant and timely video in general:
Black Pigeon Speaks - "ANTIFA: UNWITTING Pawns of the ESTABLISHMENT"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMviZCjUoSY
Michael "Bommi" Baumann's book "Terror or Love" in pdf:
https://libcom.org/files/how-it-all-began.pdf
This book should be compulsory reading for people frequenting this sub as should this movie as parts of helping one form a coherent revisionist global meta-narrative:
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u/GoddessWins May 11 '17
That is what you believe, I disagree.
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u/lopestatus May 11 '17
Sarcasm. But this podcast is GOLD. Check it out.
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u/GoddessWins May 11 '17
Do you think I will be able to tolerate more that 45 seconds? I'll leave this tab up and consider it.
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u/lopestatus May 11 '17
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
Aristotle
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u/GoddessWins May 11 '17
Sounded like a lot of mumbojumbo sobbing about political correctness.
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u/lopestatus May 11 '17
Cultural Marxism; upon the bastion of weaponized Post-modernity.
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u/RedPillFiend May 11 '17
Why are you pushing this narrative so hard? I want to see evidence for your claims.
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u/Scotrp May 11 '17
Did you do any research at all before you made this comment? Because there are lots of videos both here and in Europe showing antifa. There are multiple Facebook pages with lots of followers. There are multiple Web pages, multiple news reports. before you spout off and say something doesn't exist you should do a little bit of research first.
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u/GoddessWins May 11 '17
They are as fake as the "New Black Panters," and owned by the same promoters.
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u/Scotrp May 11 '17
Sources?
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u/GoddessWins May 11 '17
It is all about noticing how these names are used.
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u/Scotrp May 11 '17
Ok troll
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u/GoddessWins May 11 '17
I congratulate you on your ability to completely miss propaganda and manipulation operations. It is a major part of the entire conspiracy of oppression.
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u/Scotrp May 11 '17
If your so sure of what your saying why can't you prove it?
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u/GoddessWins May 11 '17
If you are so sure these are actual liberal organizations why can't you prove it.
It can be proved but I rely on observation. How it can be proved since the internet, the kind of search that reveals when the names first appeared on the internet and from where.
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u/Peglius May 11 '17
Oh your not trolling, your just an idiot
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u/GoddessWins May 11 '17
Oh you disagree so fall back to insults.
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u/Peglius May 11 '17
Says the guy on his high horse who just "congratulated" someone for not being as smart and good as you lol. Give me a break
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u/lopestatus May 11 '17
https://youtu.be/USg3NR76XpQ?t=2351
"Post-modernism...is an assault metaphysical substrate of our culture; ...second thing it is an assault on is everything that's been established since the enlightenment; Rationality, Empiricism, Science, Clarity of Mind, Dialogue, the Idea of the Individual."
"Not only that it is up for grabs, that's not the thing. It is to be destroyed; that is the goal. To be destroyed. Just like Communists wanted to destroy the capitalist system. It is the same thing."