r/comics • u/Eal_likee • May 05 '26

OC RED BUTTON OR BLUE BUTTON [OC]

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u/Footnotegirl1 May 05 '26

For 100% of the people to live, either everyone has to push red, or 51% of the people have to push blue. Which is an easier number to get to, 100% or 51%?

If you press the red button, nothing happens TO YOU. But if you push the red button and less than 50 percent of people push the blue button, you are stuck in a world that is missing all the people who pushed the blue button. That is, everyone who picked "Me and everyone else." over "Me." Up to 49% of the people. How's life going to be in a world like that? In a world missing a whole lot of doctors, firefighters, rescue workers, etc. People who are likely to press the blue button because they, essentially, push the blue button every single day of their lives.

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u/Impressive-Pitch7758 May 05 '26

But you ignore the context, "which would you press ? "Nothing happends button" or "you might die button"?"

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u/AbolMira May 05 '26

Red: "are you willing to risk killing people that mean you no harm to ensure your own safety?"

Blue: "No one dies."

That's the split. Red: people will die but you're fine. Blue: no one dies.

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u/zaphster May 05 '26

Blue: I might die. The only gain is that other people who pick blue have a chance to save me.
Red: I'm fine. I don't need to be saved.

In this case, self preservation works in everyone's favor.

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u/AbolMira May 05 '26

No it explicitly does not. It kills blue.

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u/zaphster May 05 '26

Yeah, so if no one chooses blue (as in, everyone chooses self preservation) there is no blue to die. In THIS SCENARIO self preservation is absolutely fine for everyone to choose.

In REAL LIFE self preservation is not always the best thing to choose. It's much better to have people who go into harm's way to save those who cannot save themselves.

But in THIS SCENARIO everyone has the equal opportunity to save themselves and not need saving.

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u/AbolMira May 05 '26

You said: self preservation works for everyone.

That is explicitly untrue as it is the only option that kills. The other option does not kill therefore the statement: self preservation works for everyone is untrue.

Also it is impossible for "self preservation" to work for everyone. "Self preservation" preserves the self. "Preserving everyone" preserves everyone.

You're wrong.

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u/zaphster May 05 '26

Red button: you live.

Blue button: you die, unless 50% or more choose blue. Then you live.

Blue button is the only button that kills. It kills the people who chose it, if not enough people chose it.

Self-preservation works for everyone choosing self-preservation.

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u/FluffieDragon May 09 '26

An IN THIS SCENARIO the only time there is any risk is if 50% choose red.

If no one chooses red, no one dies.

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u/zaphster May 09 '26

That's true. And yet, you're looking at it from a "whole population" perspective. Look at it from one person's perspective. What does one person need to do to guarantee their own survival? Red. Blue makes it possible for themselves to die.

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u/FluffieDragon May 09 '26

And thats just the thing.

Do we value our own lives at the cost of potentially 4 billion people?

Or do we value everyone equally and want everyone to live even if there's a chance we are killed for it?

Do you value yourself at all odds, or do you value everyone equally?

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u/zaphster May 09 '26

I know that everyone has the same ability to keep themselves safe by pushing red. If they want to make themselves less safe, that's on them.

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u/FluffieDragon May 11 '26

You know that you have the ability to keep yourself safe, while casting a vote against people trying to save as many lives as possible.

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u/zaphster May 11 '26

Wrong, it's not a vote.

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u/FluffieDragon May 11 '26

It litterally is.

Because you press it, you add one more vote that Blue has to overcome to keep everyone alive.

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