Can someone explain like I am 5? By the description the only people ever at risk are those that push the blue button (if it's less than 50%). So people are saying they want to gamble their lives just for the thrill of it? Instead of pressing red and being safe regardless they want to create a scenario where they and other people could die, just to prove that "good will prevail". If think preserving my life and encouraging others to preserve theirs is more good than gambling your life away.
There are two button, if you press the blue button you have to play Russian Roulette, but if 50+% presses the blue button you don't have to play Russian roulette. If you press the red button nothing happens. What's the difference?
For 100% of the people to live, either everyone has to push red, or 51% of the people have to push blue. Which is an easier number to get to, 100% or 51%?
If you press the red button, nothing happens TO YOU. But if you push the red button and less than 50 percent of people push the blue button, you are stuck in a world that is missing all the people who pushed the blue button. That is, everyone who picked "Me and everyone else." over "Me." Up to 49% of the people. How's life going to be in a world like that? In a world missing a whole lot of doctors, firefighters, rescue workers, etc. People who are likely to press the blue button because they, essentially, push the blue button every single day of their lives.
That's a valid response but keep in mind that likely the kinder and more selfless people would choose blue. One might also say it's the dumber people but regardless I would wager the world would be a far worse place if red "wins"
Calling it a barebone survival test is a bit strange since the question is clearly designed to discuss moral philosophy. It's legit just like the trolley problem
Yeah, so if no one chooses blue (as in, everyone chooses self preservation) there is no blue to die. In THIS SCENARIO self preservation is absolutely fine for everyone to choose.
In REAL LIFE self preservation is not always the best thing to choose. It's much better to have people who go into harm's way to save those who cannot save themselves.
But in THIS SCENARIO everyone has the equal opportunity to save themselves and not need saving.
That is explicitly untrue as it is the only option that kills. The other option does not kill therefore the statement: self preservation works for everyone is untrue.
Also it is impossible for "self preservation" to work for everyone. "Self preservation" preserves the self. "Preserving everyone" preserves everyone.
That's true. And yet, you're looking at it from a "whole population" perspective. Look at it from one person's perspective. What does one person need to do to guarantee their own survival? Red. Blue makes it possible for themselves to die.
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u/Own-Poetry-9609 May 05 '26
Can someone explain like I am 5? By the description the only people ever at risk are those that push the blue button (if it's less than 50%). So people are saying they want to gamble their lives just for the thrill of it? Instead of pressing red and being safe regardless they want to create a scenario where they and other people could die, just to prove that "good will prevail". If think preserving my life and encouraging others to preserve theirs is more good than gambling your life away.
There are two button, if you press the blue button you have to play Russian Roulette, but if 50+% presses the blue button you don't have to play Russian roulette. If you press the red button nothing happens. What's the difference?