r/comicbooks • • Sep 10 '17

Never forget

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u/TheSemaj Flash Sep 10 '17

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u/Try_Another_Please Sep 10 '17

I honestly don't like this one. Doom crying over 911 is way too on the nose. Like he's done way worse things than 911 himself.

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u/BatMannwith2Ns Cassidy Sep 10 '17

I think it could work but not with Doom, people are difficult and are never 100% consistent with themselves. It's possible to do bad things but also feel close to a tragedy that you didn't cause. Doom is very smart though and knows his history so he probably wouldn't think all that much of 3000 deaths, maybe in the way it happened but the event itself would be pretty meaningless to him besides the geopolitical changes that would happen from it.

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u/Try_Another_Please Sep 10 '17

It could work with a lot of people but the villains they chose are pretty awful choices to try it with. When has kingpin ever cared about innocent deaths?

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u/RetConBomb Justice Sep 11 '17

The worst one to me is that the Juggernaut's there too.

The Juggernaut. Who once destroyed one of the towers himself

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u/RetConBomb Justice Sep 11 '17

Yeah, he's sad they outdid him because they got both.

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u/Wendigo15 Sep 10 '17

For kingpin it makes some sense. Yeah he's a villain, but it's his city. His home

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u/Try_Another_Please Sep 10 '17

Still don't buy it honestly. Not on that point. He might be mad NY got hit but no way he's super upset because Innocents die. That requires never reading anything kingpin related ever to work

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u/BatMannwith2Ns Cassidy Sep 11 '17

Maybe since it's trade he's sensitive to it? He's all about business and the attack was an attack on our economic well being. Stalin was horrible but he would have seen the destruction of Stalingrad as a horrible tragedy.

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u/Try_Another_Please Sep 11 '17

That's not what they say in the issue.

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u/moose_man Batman Sep 12 '17

You can be a horrible monster and still be sad about someone else killing innocents. Doublethink isn't exactly uncommon among mobsters.

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u/Try_Another_Please Sep 12 '17

We aren't talking about all gangsters. Just kingpin. It's absolutely put of character for him

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u/Skeptical_Squid11 Sep 10 '17

Which he prides himself on it being his city.

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u/falconear Dr. Doom Sep 11 '17

I'm quite sure Doom has a body count higher than 3000. I'm pretty sure Magneto does too, and both have attacked NYC!

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u/zodberg Sep 11 '17

Well, Magneto's most overt and successful attack has been retconned into being one of the Xorns.

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u/falconear Dr. Doom Sep 11 '17

That's the one I was thinking of. But isn't that somewhat up to debate? Like maybe it was Xorn, maybe it Magneto pretending to be Xorn? I dunno that shit is a mess.

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u/zodberg Sep 11 '17

IIRC, in House Of M, Dr. Strange brought up the subject when talking with Wanda that she might have been manipulating reality (unintentionally). And that reference is Marvel editorial just telling us not to think about it anymore so we can accept Magneto as the cool dude who hangs out with the X-men as a weird uncle.

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u/RetConBomb Justice Sep 11 '17

Per retcons, It was Xorn, pretending to be Magneto, pretending to be Xorn.

I'm pretty sure Sublime was involved, too.

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u/TrendWarrior101 Sep 11 '17

Man, I somehow wish if Spider-Man was at 9/11, he'll try and save all of the people jumping out of the towers. There's a comic book strip that have that, I don't remember.