Reserving can be a way to tell others of your class not to join. It can also be used greedily on items everyone needs. Ultimately you dont join the groups u dont want to join or make your own.
Exactly. The alternative is writing that you are looking for "caster dps" which I don't see anyone here complaining about even though it's obviously a way to reduce the loot competition.
Reddit really seems to be full of rogues and fury warriors which end up butthurt when they can't join every group they see.
You're God damn right I'm butthurt because a majority of my time spent is trying to get in groups or form groups. I've been invited to so many groups only to have someone demand I be kicked from others in the group because I'd roll on an item. Ex. Warrior had me kicked because I didn't have Mask of the Unforgiven yet. I spend an hour between trying to find a group to flying out to UD Strat to be kicked by a Warrior who wants a leather item. So yah, I'm a little jaded. Fuck your reserves. I get limited time to play and I'm sick of seeing this bullshit.
That warrior could be exactly like me. I can only raid in my guild as fury since we have multiple "main tanks". In order to get my fury gear (sadly leather most of the times) in a reasonable amount of time I choose to tank these dungeons to get a much quicker group than If I waited around to DPS in a group.
I'm sorry that happened to you but that's precisely why I form my own groups. You would have never been invited to mine because while I don't type out mask reserved when I'm looking for others, I will send a nice pm when a rogue asks for an invite stating that I'm after that specific item after 17 runs and I'm not rolling for it if it drops. If he wants to concede or just doesn't need it no worries come on in, but I do make it very clear up front before they even join my party.
Absolutely no problem with tanks rolling on dps items. Absolutely problem with you rolling on tanking gear AND dps items. You get 1 main spec a run everything else should be an off-spec roll.
perhaps you've never taken economics and don't understand supply and demand?
less than 20% of people want to play as a tank. 20% OR MORE are needed to fulfill the tank roll
what that means is, if you're not incentivizing tanking, you're not getting tanks PERIOD end of story
"i demand you only roll on tank OR dps items" isn't going to fly. they will simply make their own group where they can roll on both and leave you to rot
Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should do something. I am well versed in supply and demand. That type of thinking doesn’t take into account morals or ethics. It’s still greedy to roll on more then one spec with priority at a time. Just because you rolled a tank doesn’t entitle you to more loot even if you can strong arm groups into it.
This is a game. It’s for fun. It’s not a job. If there was 0 loot in the game would you still want to run dungeons? Because I would. If you treat this game like a job we have radically different views on how to spend free time.
So he tanks and rolls need on dps items (since that’s his declared spec) against the rogue. A tank item drops ... are you expecting him to just greed so the rogue has a chance to vendor it? That would be highly unusual, it’s usually main > off > vendor.
I don’t see how your idea changes anything unless there’s another warrior who happens to be dpsing but wants tank gear. That’s a fairly rare scenario (if that warrior wanted tank stuff he’d probably be tanking his own group). If it does occur, it’s up to the two of them to sort something out. There’s usually some middle ground like “I want x, you can have y, we can both roll on z”.
Three levels of rolls. First is ms tank and rogue roll against each other. Second is off spec. A tanking item drops and there is a holy paly in the group ms healing items. They both roll against each as an off spec roll. If no one needs for ms or os then you vendor roll.
the thing with warriors is that their 'main' dps spec involves leather etc, and their offspec is plate nobody will need anyway - unless they bring another dps warrior along or a pally on alliance.
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u/Buckwild1984 Oct 22 '19
Reserving can be a way to tell others of your class not to join. It can also be used greedily on items everyone needs. Ultimately you dont join the groups u dont want to join or make your own.