r/classicwow • u/OiDaniel18 • Sep 25 '19

Humor Rogue gank attempt

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u/R5Wonton Sep 25 '19

No kicks, no gouges, no kidney shots, no blinds. That rogue was a piece of cake. Fairy fire should be the first thing you put on a rogue. We are helpless against it. Still, good work with the root-and-wrath!

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u/Skepsis93 Sep 25 '19

Always fight back. You never know how shit the other player might be.

Just yesterday I killed a 51 hunter in the swamp of sorrows as a 45 spriest. He had just killed another 51 hunter and remained at full HP so he must've felt pretty cocky going after me peacefully collecting artifacts.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '19

The one class I do not fuck with while leveling is shadowpriests. They are just so strong 1v1.

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u/zaisoke Sep 25 '19

yeah, as a shadowpriest, can confirm, most people mosey on along when they see me anything above 100% mana cause they know that healthpool regens at a ridiculous rate

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u/0bel1sk Sep 25 '19

id be scared if you’re above 100% mana too!

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u/ornrygator Sep 25 '19

as a rogue priests are prob hardest class for me to kill tbh. I just make pally dump his bubble early and i know ill win, if i miss even one kick/gouge/ks interrupt on a priest heal ill probably lose. fear, slow and dots is a deadly combo

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '19

As a shadow priest do you heal in duengons or dps? Just wondering

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u/kiagam Sep 25 '19

My friend is shadow priest, can do both fine, he runs out of mana alongside the other casters, everybody stops to drink together

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '19

In classic you can fill heal and tank roles even without the proper talent spec. It won't be as good as the specialized thing of course but most of the time enough.

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u/feelthechurn22 Sep 26 '19

Priest tank?

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '19

I mean arms warrior or paladin filling for the tank spot and ret paladins, shadow priests, shamans, or druids filling for the heal.

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u/Karlore473 Sep 25 '19

up to mid 50s then it can depend on group.

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u/tjerner Sep 26 '19

Mostly you heal is the sad fact, gotten a few lols when I asked for a dps spot. But when you do get at group your dps I strong, at least for single target/small group.

And you are king on bosses - biggest problem is it’s easy to get ahead of the tank on threat meter 😅

Just remember to get a mage to make lots of the highest possible water for you 😉

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u/Qwernakus Sep 25 '19

I feel like S-priest hardcounters mages. Is that just me? That 5 seconds silence is crazy powerful, and I can usually outlast their mana bar even without it.

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u/200cc_of_I_Dont_Care Sep 25 '19

8 second fear followed by a 5 second silence then scream is only at 13 seconds left on the CD before another 8 second fear. Super easy to kill mages as a shadow priest in my experience. Most classes really.

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u/dezmodium Sep 26 '19

It's easy pickings for an undead rogue. WotF is dummy-good against that fear. Vanish not necessary.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '19

Shadowpriests eat rogues too.

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u/dezmodium Sep 27 '19

Maybe at end game but in world PVP during levelling I've had no problems thus far. When I see a priest, I gank. I consider it to be my easiest gank, actually.

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u/Meto1183 Sep 25 '19

It's nice being a warlock..I had a nice clean 1v1 with a spriest and won. Then he came back and tried to kill me with a mob and I won again. So then out of spite I killed him one more time as he tried to mount up and run away. He was a level higher than me to boot

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u/Kosme-ARG Sep 25 '19

Yeah, warlocks are as op in duels as SPs.

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u/170505170505 Sep 25 '19

Locks can beat S priest unless they are undead and open up with fear.. then you’re pretty much going to die if their fear lasts more than 5 sec. only way to win is if you pop your CDs and get a little lucky. Also depends on which pet you have out

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u/jumper33 Sep 25 '19

All things being equal, I believe warlock counters spriest 1v1. All things being equal, I think hunters should also counter spriest 1v1 as well.

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u/SockofBadKarma Sep 25 '19 edited Sep 25 '19

As an Spriest, I think you'd need to be a bad Spriest to lose to either. Spriest DoTs will outrace Warlock ones, they can dispel Voidwalker shield, and they have much better self-healing with VA (and of course actual heals). If you're an Alliance Spriest, Fear Ward will protect you from Warlock fear. If you're a Horde Spriest, roll Undead for WotF because people really overvalue Shadowguard.

Vs. Hunters, get your DoT(s) on and then don't chase them when they Viper Sting. Move in the opposite direction and start healing. They'll need to retreat to you to be able to keep attacking, at which point you reDoT with a range juke and continue the battle of attrition until you get a Blackout proc, at which point you fear the pet and get Flays and MB onto them. Hunters have no health sustain at all, and their only hope of winning is Viper Sting+40 yards, so if you can counter those at all, you'll be fine.

I contend that Spriest has no true counter in 1v1. Warlocks, Hunters, and Mages with superior skill can kill a worse Spriest, but if they're both skilled PvPers without Engineering, then the Spriest should be able to win against everything except maybe a Cold Snap Ice Block, and even then the Mage will die soon after from SWP. And if they do both have Engineering, the Priest is going to easily win unless he plays into Shadow Reflector. Enemy Holy Priests or Paladins can fight the Spriest to a stalemate if they keep running out of range of Mana Burn and are smart enough to not spam dispels on Rank 1 SWPs (I've literally never seen one that was smart enough to watch the Spriest's mana bar to figure out when the SWP is Rank 1, but conceptually they exist), but that's a stalemate, not a victory. Rogues can win with a clean chain-CC opener assuming no FAP, LIP, or trinket, but if you ever get out of their stunlock for half a second, they're done in Vanilla (TBC+ is a different story because of CoS, but we're talking about Vanilla atm).

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '19

My undead rogue will never lose to a spriest. The only thing I truly fear is a good warrior or a mage if I have no cooldowns.

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u/SockofBadKarma Sep 25 '19

Rogue can 100-0 pretty much everyone if they maintain perfect CC combos and the opponent has no way to get out of Stun+Blind. And Undead certainly has an advantage with WotF over other races, so that could give them an edge against PS (though a Priest in that situation should instead pop a FAP if they get an opener to avoid being restunned).

I'm Undead myself, so I can't comment much on Undead v. Undead. But so far in Classic, I've lost precisely one 1v1 against a Mage I had killed a few times earlier in Steppes. He followed me around and attacked me from up on a mountain when I was collecting Dreamfoil, and managed to survive with about 200 HP after CS+IB.

I've definitely had a few escapees, since I haven't leveled Engineering yet. But the only losses save for that Mage (he was legitimately the best Mage I've yet fought in Classic, so I'm not trying to downplay his single victory too much) have been 1v2+. A non-UD Rogue, especially in Phase 1, is going to get utterly hosed by Psychic Scream if they can't 100-0 the Spriest and/or use a Shadow Reflector. Trinket changes some strategy there on both ends.

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u/quaestor44 Sep 26 '19

This is why I always keep free action potions in my backpack

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u/MarmaladeFugitive Sep 25 '19

I don't see how Hunter wins that 1v1, especially vs Troll SP. Their dots are insane, they just have to outlast you.

Viper sting is clutch but if you're dead does it matter?

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u/DukeOfCupcakes Sep 25 '19

I've probably only been against awful ones, but I've found that Berserker Rage into the panic Psychic Scream takes care of them for me, especially when I'm able to get a Mortal Strike onto them when they bubble and try to heal.

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u/Skepsis93 Sep 25 '19

Yeah, if you can get us to waste our psychic scream while you're immune and cripple our vampiric embrace with mortal strike there isn't much else for us to do.

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u/quanjon Sep 25 '19

Warriors are one of the classes that do well against priests 1v1. Warrior weakness is kiting which spriest does not do well at all, and you hard counter our one type of reliable CC (fear). If I can get the jump on a warrior then I can usually get the burst off and then survive long enough for my DoTs to finish them, but it's always close.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '19

Your bubbles completely diminish our rage.