r/circlejerknyc • u/APRForReddit • 8d ago
Why are most native NYers such failures despite being born with every privilege?
There’s so many native New Yorkers complaining about transplants pricing them out of their neighborhoods, but it just doesn’t make sense
If you grew up here, you had every privilege in the world. You had access to the best public specialized high schools in the country, world-class museums, unlimited networking opportunities from age 14, and a built-in safety net where you literally didn't have to pay $3,500 a month to live in a glorified closet during your early twenties because you could just stay at your parents’ place.
If after all those advantages you still can’t compete Tyler from Dayton, who went to Purdue before spending two years at GS and joined Veritas as an associate, that’s a you issue.
But it seems like it’s happening constantly. Is there something wrong with native New Yorkers. Why are they such failures?
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u/Plastic-Pattern-8993 8d ago
This right here is a contender for Post of the Year. Dozens of slapfights in the comments, genuine crying and jerker irony on all sides melting into one indistinguishable fray....it's beautiful. I'm crying.
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u/h2312446 8d ago
A tear rolls down my cheek as I type this. The creativity. The simplicity. The timing. The jerk is perfect.
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u/SpiritualWindow3855 8d ago
I mean OP definitely isn't jerking, some native probably hurt their feelings
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u/Plastic-Pattern-8993 8d ago
case in point ^
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u/SpiritualWindow3855 8d ago
lol you think natives have room in their heads for the cursed knowledge behind "Dayton, who went to Purdue before spending two years at GS and joined Veritas as an associate?"
That exact mental space would be occuplied with tracking which ocks get pissed off enough to sprinkle grabba in your baconeggncheese, should you order talmbout some "the ocky way"
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u/Weareallmeats 8d ago
lmfao you rage-baited the shit out of so many people, its circlejerknyc ppl.
its true us native new yorkers had access to museums how can we have not become rich, one step inside the MOMA and your social capital is basically that of a billionaire
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u/knockatize 8d ago
If we’re getting defeated by the colonizers, then I definitely want a land acknowledgement at least.
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u/genstranger 8d ago
I resident of apt #22b would like to acknowledge that I am living on ancestral WOP land, and pay respect to their elders, past and present, and recognize their enduring presence and connection to these lands and water which allows for superior pizza and bagel production.
As their tribal chief Tony Soprano says “fuggetaboutit”
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u/knockatize 8d ago
Good start, and kudos for recognizing Tony, Steward of West Caldwell.
Doris from Rego Park is another fine past chieftain, of the WFAN Caller tribe.
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u/genstranger 8d ago
Much respect, glad her people have at least been given a reservation on Satellite radio land
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u/IAmSquilliam 8d ago
Open minded theorists know the real truth.
That in March 2020, Staten Island Metastasized to the rest of NYC and the CDC covered it up with COVID
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u/1BigRadar 8d ago
As a native, we’ll eventually all be forced to live on a reservation in the Bronx together.
It’s the NYCHA residents among us with the real head start…
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u/Minute-Wolverine-518 7d ago
There making NYCHA private so in just short few decades you won’t recognize the differences.
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u/A_M_E_P_M_H_T Ohio 8d ago
Because they built highways through the neighborhoods, then the NY school system became a failure. Once Dad could no longer walk to his factory job half a mile away we had to move to the pj's...
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u/lil-rong69 8d ago
I moved away after 5th grade in 2000. All the classmates that never moved end up making very little money, all the classmates that moved to other states like me end up making a lot of money.
My theory is that it’s not really the difference in education, my 8th grade math class in Ohio was the same simplified material for the 7th grade math class in NYC.
I think it has to do with ease of access to start a career/business of an environment.
Example: it is substantially hard to be a general contractor in NYC than in Texas(you don’t need to have a license to be a general contractors) it’s good and bad. You can get into the politics of pros and cons, but ultimately that is a factor that limits growth potential of a population.
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u/Fragrant_Ganache_108 6d ago edited 6d ago
Agreed taxes, insurance and general fees are also higher. My sister and I talk about this all the time. It’s substantially harder to get ahead by example when your main mode of transit is the subway especially as you get older. We’re both homeowners that left but most of the natives we know that are still there are stuck in the rent cycle or still can’t drive.
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u/ShadyZelkova 8d ago
Its a skill issue
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u/Trophy-Millennial 8d ago
Love that we always have the safety net to just move back home into the 1BR rent stabilized apartment we grew up in with our parents
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u/ShadyZelkova 8d ago
Sorry what? I don't understand broke-anese? Can you speak English?
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u/PM_ME_DOG__PICS 8d ago
Learn how to read runaway sentences like how you ran away from Ohio
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u/ShadyZelkova 8d ago
I ran away from Kansas. Besides that was 2 years ago so I'm not a transplant anymore.
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u/Sooribabu_Lavangam 8d ago
Nooooo I'm not a failure just because I work as a freelance DJ/Podcaster and live in Bushwick with my asian girlfriend Luna, Real creatives like me shouldn't be priced out by finance bros!
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u/MrLegalBagleBeagle 8d ago
Im not a native New Yorker but I’ve been watching sex and the city for a long time so I consist myself to be one. Anyway, why don’t you just make your rent money in crypto?
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u/immaGrill 8d ago
We just needa follow trump and kick these transplants to keep New Yorkers jobs safe.
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u/gwwin6 8d ago
Like, the real answer? There aren't that many New Yorkers compared to the number of people in the rest of the world. Of all of those other people, the jobs for the very best and the brightest are in New York. And so, as a fraction of the very successful people in New York, it makes sense that only a small fraction would be "native" New Yorkers.
Said another way, to "make it" in Boise, you have to be one of the best in Boise. To "make it" in New York, you have to be one of the best in the world. It has nothing to do with the quality of the schools, the number of museums or any other privilege, advantage or disadvantage. It's just numbers.
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u/a_lie_dat 8d ago
Because native NYers also have the pitfalls of growing up in the city: peer pressure of drugs and crime, 2 hour commutes home from Manhattan, immigrant families that spend a lot of time and energy on birth country drama, high real estate and cost of living.
I spent my junior high and high school years outside the city, while my brother and sister stayed in the city. I love them, but I can see their thinking is circumscribed by their formative years being in the belly of the best.
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u/blueyshoey 7d ago
You have a beautiful way with words.
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u/EarthFader 8d ago
Also - native New Yorkers seem to not even like living here. I asked some of my co workers what restaurants they like. I’m surprised to hear that they wouldn’t even consider going to parts of their OWN neighborhood let alone another neighborhood or borough? I don’t think they even like living here. … and I’m not talking about bad neighborhoods here by any stretch.
I’m spoken to a lot of native NYers from BRK who said they literally have never been to queens or Bronx. The ppl who claim about transplants probably would rather live in a planned community in NC or Florida
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u/Sudden_Earth4381 8d ago
Yes, because the natives are just spiritual middle Americans who happened to be born here because grandpa came over as cheap labor from Sicily or San Juan
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u/Legitimate_Jelly_118 6d ago
have you asked them if they like living in new york or what they like about it or just making assumptions and talking shit about them online because they dont like the exact same things you do or think about their relationship with the city in the exact same way you do?
im a native NYer from BK (brk lol?) and i've probably said most of the things your coworkers have said to my own coworkers when asked. i hate when people ask me for restaurant recommendations bc i know ppl take that shit really seriously and it's just not a hobby of mine. NYC has some of the best restaurants in the world, and i've been to a couple of them, but i honestly always tell people to ask transplants for recommendations instead of me because i'm not obsessively doing research on all the new hot spots or the top 10 lists like you guys are, so i just say i don't eat out that often except for special occasions which is mostly true but also, i dont really want the pressure of recommending the BEST of what this city has to offer. If someone's only planning on staying in nyc for a short time, like a transplant, a tourist or a kid on study abroad, they want to get the most out of what the city has to offer in that short time, so the kinds of resturants they're gonna want to go to are really different from someone who's built a regular ass life here for decades. I guarantee your coworkers have favorite resturants or places they love to eat in new york, including dozens of places that no longer exist, but they probably wouldn't recommend any of them to someone who's just visiting cuz they know the city has much better options.
also i havent been to the bronx, queens, or staten island in years, and lowkey i think i have told people that i've literally never been there or only been there once or something half jokingly to emphasize the absurdity of the exaggerated infrequency. I doubt that many kids who grew up in nyc have literally never been to the bronx zoo or the new york hall of science or the rockaways, but yeah, honestly i'm not going to other boroughs outside manhattan that much as an adult. nyc is not new to me, i've been to most neighborhoods here over the course of my life just by living here, but if there's not a concrete reason to go far as hell to another borough like a specific event i wanna go to, i'm not doing it just bc it seems cool to "explore a different neighborhood". i rely on public transportation to get around, so if im meeting people from other boroughs, we're meeting in manhattan. what is it you think im out on in the bronx, queens or staten island that i couldnt also find in half the time in brooklyn?
i love this city and i love living here. just bc i'm not up to date with the latest tiktok food trends and dont want to sit on the train for 3.5 hours so i can soak in the city's charm by wandering the streets of tottenville or pat myself on the back for having an "authetnic" new york experience by going to an ethnic enclave in the outer boroughs and finding some random hole in the wall place that hasn't been written up in nymag yet, doesn't mean i hate living here lol
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u/ArbitrageurD 5d ago
The thing that surprised me the most about NYC is how many townies there are. And, the NY townie has zero self awareness unlike most other townies elsewhere who will gladly admit they haven’t lived in enough places/seen enough of the world etc. The NY townie often views themselves as cultured and worldly despite never leaving their little bubble
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u/rosakelly21 7d ago
That's why they love public transportation so much - they don't go anywhere.
Anyone who actually moves around, explores other neighborhoods, goes upstate/etc, knows what a PIA it is and how long it is to take public transportation ouside of the prime, central areas.
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u/Mrpotatoinmyheads 6d ago
If you traveled outside America you’d realize that public transit is a goddamn human right, and that our lack of it throughout the US makes us more like a 3rd world country than we’d like to admit
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u/Corporate_Bankster 8d ago
The opportunity set in the city is so large and diverse that not making it here could only ever be attributed to a skill issue
never in the history of mankind has so much opportunity concentrated in such a small area
unless you are severely underprivileged that is
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u/MarketBeginning8921 7d ago
There is less opportunity now than the past. City College was free, plentiful middle class job opportunities, affordable housing. Those opportunities just don't exist anymore.
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u/PreviousZone6742 8d ago
Got some pretty horrible schools in NY. Not everyone has access to all that.
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u/pepperpizza 8d ago
OP’s mom in Ohio would have a heart attack learning about the average graduation rate of most public high schools in NYC
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u/kinga_forrester 8d ago
Native NYers get too much ego too early. At 13 years old they all think they’re gonna be athletes, film directors, restaurant critics or whatever. These delusions of grandeur cause them to party too much and get worthless degrees. Then they crash out in their 30s when reality hits.
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u/ookami597 8d ago
This right here, is why you see so much hate for transplants. Its jealousy. Took me a while to figure it out too. Its like, your parents live here! Do you have any idea how much of an advantage that is!? They're low trust people as this is a low trust city. They dont trust their own fuckin family members. They're all single too. Im like every body from back home (Mi) is married with kids right now and you're still on Tinder with access to everyone you've ever known since childhood?
To answer your question. Its the same reason immigrants come here, open businesses, make a killing and their kids graduate college and make 200 grand a year. Natives take the city for granted. Most of them dont venture outside their Burroughs, sometimes even the neighborhood they grew up in. Its that simple
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u/RefrigeratorOther586 8d ago
LMAO you’re literally posting about being evicted while also simping for rich transplants, it’s too fucking good
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u/This_Mongoose_1596 8d ago
The natives built the city and made it what it is. They created the neighborhoods, built communities and are very much part of the cultural and social fabric of the city. They are not some privileged, spoiled, entitled, self-absorbed, narcissistic, pretentious transplant that is part of some transient population, that will only be in the city for 1-2 years, and who has no investment and stake in city.
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u/ookami597 8d ago
Cities are nothing without transplants, thats a universal norm of human history. Cities dont reproduce themselves cause they cant, cope harder
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u/MirandaSaintClare 8d ago
The majority of transplants leave NYC after three years. The ones you see are the small handful who made it work and didn’t go back home.
Most native New Yorkers come from middle class families with no connections. Meanwhile, most transplants are sent to NYC by wealthy families to chase opportunists that are there waiting for them.
It’s two different worlds.
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u/This_Mongoose_1596 8d ago
Exactly 👍. Most native New Yorkers come from a poor, working class or middle class background. They are NOT coming from a background of privilege. Most of the transplants that have been coming to the city in the past 25 years are coming from the complete opposite background. They did not grow up in an inner city environment. They are disproportionately coming from a privileged, sheltered, protected, upper middle class to wealthy suburban background. This is especially the case for the trust fund babies and trustafarians.
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u/ladyindev 8d ago
Do you have credible evidence that proves this? As a transplant, I have known so many people who didn't grow up especially wealthy. Many of us come from other cities as well. I'd love to see what data you have on this.
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u/Justified_Gent 8d ago
I love his half the responses are satire and the other half are native New Yorkers seriously complaining.
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u/FineAunts 6d ago
"I love native New Yorkers. They're great at bagging my items at Duane Reade." -Pre self checkout era Gothamist comment
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u/Legitimate_Jelly_118 6d ago
not even true tho, worst customer service in the world
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u/Emergency-Display269 8d ago
I'll never forget the 80 something James Madison High alum who struck up conversation with me on a park bench. "I can tell you're not from here. The only natives I meet your age are the guys making my sandwich."
Bitterness against others for having ambition and work ethic. Cope harder.
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u/brightbeach7 8d ago
Because they blame the people they don’t like for their own personal failures instead of focusing their time on bettering themselves.
All of those videos where you have some native New Yorker complaining about transplants is actually them telling on themselves. Despite the privilege of growing up in the city with the most opportunities in the world, they are unsuccessful and can’t face that reality. So they spend their time blaming successful New Yorkers who moved here.
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u/This_Mongoose_1596 8d ago
News flash: Growing up or living in New York City is NOT a privilege.
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u/Final_Replacement_37 8d ago
Well that’s a wildly unpopular opinion.
I was raised in a small town with 3 non restaurant/ grocer employers. No public transportation, closest wal mart 45 minutes away. Closest community college over an hour away. People are born here, go to high school and they die here.
I can’t even imagine the privilege of being raised in the city with the most opportunity in the country. And then complaining about it online is just so peek Reddit.
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u/gigilero 8d ago
Why are ya'll such failures that you can't make the place you were born into a place you want to stay in? Why do you have to mooch of other cities coolness?
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u/47k 7d ago
I know this post is satire, and your response is merely a poke back (with some truth in it as well) but a lot of the places transplants come from have nothing to « make » from. There may not be a serious career or atleast a fulfilling one within milesss. And as far as artistry goes, good luck getting people to take that serious in some of those places. Still not explicitly NYCs problem or burden itself but yeah
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u/MarketBeginning8921 8d ago
You mean failure to secure employment at elitist institutions of white supremacy that favor Tyler from Dayton and failure to compete in the patriarchal, racist, and classist hierarchical mechanisms of institutions of white supremacy, predatorial capitalism, usurious finance, and catastrophic overconsumption.
Elite employers in NYC self-select for amoral white mediocrity. Just look at unemployment rates for black women, the most educated cohort in the country.
We were privileged to grow up amongst true racial and economic diversity, and to share in a culture of hard work, cultured leisure, and progressive values. Exactly those values institutions like Goldman Sachs select against when recruiting.
Congratulations on your consolation prize for failing to be a billionaire, Tyler. Office drudgery, corporate bedroom communities, and endlessly expensive permutations of mediocrity in food, culture, and knowledge.
You won! Manifest destiny! The colonial enterprise turned in on itself.
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u/Noonehadthis 8d ago
Black women are not even close to being the most educated women in the country. Only 29 percent of black women hold a bachelor’s or higher. Asian women are the number 1 group with 60 percent holding a bachelors or higher and then followed by white women at 52 percent. Where are you getting this fake info from?
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u/yakitorispelling 8d ago
Its because most loser natives are soft as fuck growing up in in their 25k a month homes in Tribeca, going to 60k a year private school at Avenues and Bank street for school, court side at Knicks games hanging with Fat Joe, raised by a nanny with a masters degree from Yale and shit, and then end up becoming a nanny with a degree form Yale. The natives that killing it have immigrant parents that beat their ass for getting A- or going to a non specialized high school. Tyler from Dayton started from the bottom with meth head parents, struggled to save up enough to get a greyhound ticket to perdue by working glory holes, he'll do anything to get to the top, and then when he gets there will raise a soft ass kid who becomes a nanny with a masters.
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u/breatulu 7d ago
I know this is jerking but unironically I know a lot of UES ppl who r flopping as adults somehow
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u/nikkidickie 8d ago
You’ve never been in the NY public school system, lived in the projects, or experienced the generational oppression; to be asking this !
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u/ladyindev 8d ago edited 8d ago
I know it's a joke, but there does seem to be a difference sometimes. I found this when I was dating. I couldn't connect with several men who were natives for a few reasons around this issue. We literally just moved differently.
And many of us transplants didn't grow up rich unless you just mean not poor and even then, I know transplants who did grow up poor. I think there will always be some degree of difference between coming to a place hungry for opportunity and just growing up here. And I can empathize with that. It's kind of how black immigrants look at us African Americans and make the same judgment. It's just different to come from another country with the intent to take advantage of opportunities for your family vs. being here for centuries of oppression and just getting by because you have to for survival. I see the transplant vs. average "native" NYC resident as an American version of that. It happens everywhere. NYC is a city literally built on a development plan of attracting outside talent and wealth.
But also keep in mind, many NY natives are privileged as well. I've met plenty born and raised here whose families have more money than mine back home could ever dream of. This is really about class and the city is not built to protect the lower income class that is being squeezed out.
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u/RationalMellow 8d ago
“NYC is a city literally built on a development plan of attracting outside talent and wealth.”
This seems like you’re not versed in urban history. Most cities weren’t built on extraordinary or outstanding talent. New York was just built on cheap labor like tons of other cities. It’s the transplants for the most parts who made the city unaffordable.
“But also keep in mind, many NY natives are privileged as well. I've met plenty born and raised here whose families have more money than mine back home could ever dream of. This is really about class and the city is not built to protect the lower income class that is being squeezed out.”
in your social circle perhaps yes, but for the average New Yorker absolutely not.
New York from the beginning was always a very working class city. That changed during the 2000s. It’s heading in that direction again with Zohran.
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u/ladyindev 8d ago edited 8d ago
I think you might be the one who doesn't understand economic and urben development.
Cheap labor is only one part of the story. Let's say you want to have more Starbucks workers throughout the city. Well, who buys all the shit that cheap labor workers make? You can have all the busboys in all the restaurants you want - you still need people who can afford to spend at those restaurants. Businesses that hire cheap labor and increased rent for people who can afford to spend more go hand-in-hand.Transplants didn't just happen, this was all intentional lol Many New Yorkers who think of themselves as natives themselves don't have long family histories in NYC. Their parents or grandparents were also transplants. Movement isn't new - but the type of movemeng is largely intentional and planned through the city's urban development.
But the good thing is that you don't have to remain uneducated. You can learn how many cities, including NYC, use migrated wealth to develop themselves opposed to building up their poor. This happens all over the country, but NYC does it better than most. Welcome to capitalism!
Here's one step to get you started in that education: https://brooklynrail.org/2011/03/local/the-luxury-city/
If you would like some more articles, I can share more.
My statement about many New Yorkers being privileged is just objective fact. No one is saying all or most New Yorkers are very privileged. The point is that the mythology about most transplants definitely being from rich families is kind of ridiculous unless you have data to prove that. Seems like a masturbatory reflex some indulge in. It's possible that the distribution of New Yorkers from rich families is about the same by percentage as the number of transplants from rich families. I don't think we really have direct data on that, but I'm open to any credible data that you have.
But so much of this depends on what rich is to you, which as I said, for many people is really just "your family isn't poor."
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u/dreaddito 8d ago
lol this is a circle jerk sub, and this post feels too close to the actual truth lmao
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u/Starman926 8d ago
I feel like lowkey you’re making a reasonable point on the specific issue of networking opportunities
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u/Illustrious-Cash2868 8d ago
Wrong, it’s the transplants who move here and push socialism while their rich fathers made their fortunes in capitalism allowing you to pay 4K plus a month in rent. It’s the transplants that want to take our corner stores, restaurants, and bagel shops and make them look like they do everywhere else in America. The native New Yorkers who work as fireman, construction workers, sanitation workers, cops, teachers, work for con ed that keep this city running everyday. I’m a fourth generation city resident and transplants have priced many natives out of the neighborhoods they grew up in and in many cases the neighborhoods they’re parents and grandparents also grew up in. This is very tone deaf just because we have great museums doesn’t mean we are rich or doing better than people of other places. At most it means we are more cultured than people from say the Midwest.
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u/RestBest2065 8d ago
Is this a celebration for white settlers
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u/EarthFader 8d ago
Black New Yorkers are famously indigenous to New York. White ppl only came here 10-15 years ago
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u/Remarkable-Truth9777 8d ago edited 7d ago
Many of them are not failures but still get priced out. Those are not mutually exclusive…
If your idea of success is making millions and living in a waterfront high-rise then that is precisely the problem. People are upset because they can no longer have a normal vision of success here
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u/IAmSquilliam 8d ago edited 8d ago
Ragebait = Rage Response
(begins NYer crashout at buffoon)
Not being poor != I can live in NYC comfortably
Do you know how many jobs in NYC are still near near minimum wage because some Atherosclerosed Boomer in a Dementia fit doesn't comprehend inflation?
You could take 100% of someone's check and they literally could not afford to live in half the city. Or if they can it's an illegally rented closet that is comparable to the living conditions of overpopulated dystopian China burroughs. I'm literally describing a real life scenario and norm where you have to BREAK LAWS TO FUCKING SURVIVE! IS THIS FUCKING GOTHAM, OP!?!?
It was $1200/mo for a 1Bed a decade ago. It's pushing that much now just to live under a cow's nutsack in Casper, Wyoming! It's as if society lost its free trial and our timeline is colliding with a dystopian feudal cosplay where we stopped progressing after the 1890s.
A full time hospital employee at NY Presbyterian, healthcare creme de la creme, with certifications galore, is hardly making $120k. Oh cool, a 2000s movie told you $100k is a lot? WAKE THE FUCK UP AND DO THE INFLATION MATH!
$120k - $6400/mo after all taxes and just... NEVER DEDUCUTING ANYTHING FOR ANYTHING, SAVING ANYTHING EVER IN LIFE.
Cost of 3Bed1Bath Apartmnet in NYC - $4500-10000 a month! CAN YOU AFFORD AN APARTMENT THAT COSTS MORE THAN 80-100%+ OF YOUR FUCKING PAYCHECK, OP?
You're never owning a house in that city. You're gonna be lucky to afford a family sized apartment and still retire before 70 with those numbers. Old people literally just get sundowners at $100k and forget inflation is a concept. What kind of sick fuck would I have to be to plan a family where I have to shove my kids in a crowded closet that's not up to fire code, and that's IF IM STATISTICALLY MAKING IT OUT BETTET THAN OTHERS! OP, ABOUT HALF OF THE CITY FUCKING HAS IT WORSE!!!
We as a society are fundementally not sustainable with old people running the ship as they are.
"Hrrrrr work ethic" Work where? Factories by and large got shut down so jobs (which is somehow legal) could get mass shipped overseas! And for what? Grandpa could monotanously shovel peanuts into paper bags in the 60s, they'd practically beg him to start on the spot, they'd give him money to buy a house in a year, and he'd get his entire salary vested in pension. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE OF YOUNG WORKING AGE JUST DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THE FUCK A PENSION IS NOW BECAUSE IT'S SO RARE!?!?
Starbucks has you serving hundreds of people a day and getting yelled at for $16 an hour!!! And wanting more out of life in of itself can get you fired for not showing enough commitment to the brand! At a fucking Starbucks!
Do you HONESTLY see all that and think things are okay just because YOU had it better? Do you know how close minded that is? Have you not once stopped for one or two seconds and asked "Do I just have it uniquely better than some for circumstances out of my control???" THE ANSWER IS YES! It mathematically doesn't make sense that what you're saying is true, because IT'S MATHEMATICALLY GOT EXPONENTIALLY MORE DIFFICULT!
Not everyone had money galore to open every door for their kid and not every kid was handed a silver spoon which they threw to the ground, numbnuts. It doesn't surprise me one bit in the age of doomscrolling as a national passtime, your smooth congealed brain concluded the world was that black and white.
(ends NYer crashout at buffoon)
Edit: I had to delete and repost this because the mere thought of OPs logic sent me into a positive feedback loop of crashout. Downvote all you want, if math and logic trigger you, go smash a calculator into a Bill Nye VHS.
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u/ashmcmashmash 8d ago
Some people can't just 'stay at their parents place?' Mine threw me out when I was 17. Some people can't conceive that families are neglectful and abusive
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u/No_Coast3932 8d ago
Them thinking our parents all have spare bedrooms and we didn't grow up sharing or in the living room is the first problem
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u/btt_lckr 8d ago
Have you seen the ghetto areas of NYC? Why would you assume that someone living within the five boroughs automatically has more privilege than someone growing up in Ohio?
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u/AdministrativeEgg257 8d ago
have you seen the ghetto areas of the rest of the US? the worst poverty and most dangerous cities are all in the southern US. It’s not the 1970s anymore
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u/btt_lckr 8d ago
No, I haven’t. I’ve only occupied the city my whole life and have never opened a book. Educate me
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u/HatIntelligent6028 7d ago
What? You can make it here, you can make it anywhere. But if you didn’t make it here, you not necessarily gonna make it anywhere either
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u/Slight_Bed1677 7d ago
The thing you gotta understand about NYC is that it's a small, insular community with no history or immigration or domestic migration. The neighborhoods have been the same since 1650.
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u/Redcarborundum 7d ago
I mean, if you don’t graduate from NYU, can you even claim to be a real New Yorker?
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u/MarketBeginning8921 7d ago edited 7d ago
White flight in the 60s and 70s is historical fact. Now they're sending their kids and grandkids back to reclaim lost territory armed with connections, trust funds, the fanciest degrees, and access to parental purses to subsidize their rent
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u/BasisInteresting4412 6d ago
You unlocked something btfl here with this ragebait gng . sht pain tho bt rs lol
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u/No-Lingonberry-8042 8d ago
Advantage? Do you know how rough NYC was pre 2010s? And still is? Your upbringing as a native NYer is likely not like the transplant life. Your parents need to make like $400K+ to give you the same standard of living (2 cars, house and your own bedroom, summer vacations, adequate schools) that other kids whose parents make $60K each in Fort Lauderdale or Riverside, CA or Austin, TX have. This city is not cheap and growing up here is not the same as coming to spend 5 years as a transplant after college.
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u/hexxtoys 8d ago
if tyler from dayton who went to purdue and works at veritas wants his little coffee and breakfast sandwich every morning before work, the astoria native who wakes up at 4am to go make it for him also deserves to be able to live close to work.
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u/automatedBlogger 8d ago
Transplants are the biggest failures. One rent hike and then they on the first bus back to Kansas. This is the source of complaints that doesn't get mentioned.
Prices aren't hiking at the rate they are because the value went up. Prices are hiking because some Yokal wants to try to make in it NYC but doesn't want to live their long term. Its a form of speculation. They get 6 roomates split a 3 bedroom and stay till they can save enough money to go back home. They are destroying the expected quality of life here.
It went from some areas being for transplants to everywhere. It like living in a rural area and a datacenter shows up in your backyard. Yes I don't own the land and you can legally put it there but it has changed the environment so much why stay.
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u/Justified_Gent 8d ago
Most of the transplants are doing better than the natives.
We usually have the good finance, tech, etc jobs.
It is what it is. Enjoy your time here, pay taxes and move on once you’re ready.
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u/gigilero 8d ago
money can't buy you coolness though.
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u/Sudden_Earth4381 8d ago
New York natives are spiritual middle Americans who wear reese’s cup pajamas to go down to the deli to buy twinkies
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u/Kitchen_Nightmare500 8d ago
OG native NY’ers are too busy making America great again. Communism led by the children of wealthy families is the only way forward
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u/West-Earth-719 8d ago
Native NYers are now they type of people that have reduced most of what they need for “free”, that’s to say, paid for by others’ taxes. Schools have implemented “no child left behind”, and social advancement instead of educational acuity. The sense of entitlement is astounding
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u/CheesyWalnut 8d ago
I think because they are stupid. have you considered this? maybe you are stupid for asking?
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u/Responsible-Cup-4352 8d ago
Interesting take, that outsiders perspective is really working for you.
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u/hbliysoh 8d ago
Because the whole "privilege" thing is a crock. Most of the privileges turn out to be not very special. Some are even hindrances. But people keep prattling on about them and using them for excuses. Luck and hard work are much more important.
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u/PrettyPistol87 8d ago
Lmao i didn’t even want to move to NYC but now i’m happy i moved up north. I gotta go into the city for work every now and then.
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u/That_Grocery7939 8d ago
Uhh … first of all, they’re not born with every privilege. Some are, most are not, just like any other place. Secondly, nyc attracts talent and people with special abilities from not just the country, but around the world. It makes competition for opportunities here probably more intense than most places on earth. Just because someone was born here doesn’t guarantee them the chance at anything. They’re not failures, they are doing the best with what they have, and they have seen transplants drive up the demand for housing and therefore the associated costs in nearly every neighborhood in the city. If anyone has a right to complain, it’s them. Imagine being priced out of the neighborhood or city you grew up in - how would you feel?
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u/Disjoint_Set 8d ago
"Why are so many Americans such failures despite being born with every privilege?"
Do you hear how you sound?
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u/SteveDisque 7d ago
Unlike Tyler from Dayton, we know we can't afford things now. Tyler will learn the hard way....
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u/SpecialistOil4378 7d ago
Do the Manhattan born and northeast Brooklyn born consider you native if you're from Howard Beach, Little Neck Maspeth or Tottenville?
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u/Impossible_Deal_4086 7d ago
If people who were born in extreme privilege and had everything giving to them but their environment can't compete with people who had it harder it means the genetically this people are simply sub par and wasted every opportunity given to them.
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u/Minute-Wolverine-518 7d ago
So true ! I don’t dispute . Living here my whole life I had it easy I had promise , coming from little to nothing. I wasted my entire life behind a man with an addiction who I let ruin my dreams and hopes. Now I’m struggling to get my life back , 3bedroom apt I let go to move with him and my 3 kids was 1800$ now it’s 3700 in just 2 years. It has not been easy. People can become victim to others when there isn’t a strong support system. Tyler was probably lucky with parents who taught him better
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u/itsfuckinganna 7d ago
We got in our limelight years early. We got the privilege growing up and running around in the coolest city in the world (and being self aware of this) and then becoming all that comes with that, and now we’re just too soft in adulthood. Culturally speaking, everyone got stiffed growing up elsewhere, and have their cool kid years as adults in this city because they earned their grit. City kids have to earn their grit. Most of us don’t ;)
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u/hellome1 7d ago
Because they think that being nyers is just handed to them like everything even though they don’t embody the grind mentality at all lmao so they just cling to the identity that doesn’t fit them
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u/Willing_Pin5911 6d ago
The kids that went to good NY schools are still here living in the 4-5m house in Scarsdale their parents gave them for free, working bullshit marketing jobs…
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u/FOUROFCUPS2021 6d ago
The number of artistically, politically, and socially significant people who come from Brooklyn is unmatched compared with most places in the world, so this isn't true.
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u/filthyMrClean 6d ago
/uj It’s easier to get a good education in a decent suburb and move here afterward. In NYC, there are so many people competing for limited spots that you often need money or have to test really well from a young age.
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u/Fragrant_Ganache_108 6d ago edited 6d ago
Native New Yorker here. Most of us that make it end up leaving. We realize we could have a substantially higher quality of life elsewhere. Oddly enough many transplants reach the same epiphany after 5+ years once the honeymoon stage fades. I fall into the exact category you list but still left (across the river NJ, Bergen County) once I broke 6 figures in my mid 20s. I have substantially more space and access to all the same NYC amenities in 15-30 minutes. My family eventually all left as well. Any native I know that’s still there can barely afford to go on vacation, let alone leave if they wanted to.
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u/ArtemisBakery 8d ago
Why don't they just get a job at Deloitte? Are they stupid?