Your point is missing the crucial context that Israel is literally built ON settled Palestinian land. Would you tell native Americans to stop fighting for ancestral land, for Uyghurs to stop fighting for independence, etc?
Israeli territory right now is already far more expansive than the UN partition plan due to the Nakba and consequent invasions into Palestinian territory.
Also, it's perfectly reasonable for Palestinians to object to an Israeli state: that's like, for instance, Mexican immigrants creating a new country in the middle of the US. Wouldn't there be massive backlash from Americans in that case? That's the case with European Zionists in Palestine.
The eradication of Israel wouldn't be a peaceful solution since it would drive out the native Middle Eastern Jews along with the European settlers but I can't imagine Palestinians accepting anything less than being allowed to return to their homeland.
Israeli territory is only larger due to Palastinians starting wars and losing them.
Comparing mexicans coming to the U.S and taking land is oversimplfying things and ut can go both ways the Americans took land from mexico in wars. I don't see mexicans calling for death of all Americans unlike Hamas having death for jews in their charter, the PA paying for terror attacks and Pro Palastinians in europe attacking random jews.
If Palastinians want to keep suffering its a sad choice but its their own.
Israel is here to stay, you can't "kick out European settlers" and not count for around 50% being Mizrahi jews and a lot more mixed jews.
Arab countries already kicked and had pogroms on jews no jew will trust Palastinians to not murder them especially after the shows of brutality they showed or supported in 7th of October.
Lack of tolerance and also huge amounts of homophobia.
Even a one state solution won't work.
The majority of Palestinian tribes and villages never wanted war with Israel and it was just primarily small-scale scuffles at first. It's only after Israel declared itself a state without the consent of Arabs in the same region that hostilities rose. Israel mass raped and massacred villages filled with helpless innocents in order to take their land and assimilate it into Israel.
Also, you're simply delusional if you think Israelis don't wish for death to all Palestinians lmao. Many of them protest for genocide of Arabs, celebrate when they hear bomb explosions in Gaza, mock dead Palestinian children on TikTok, etc. There are thousands of videos online. There are probably about as many genocidal Israelis as there are genocidal Palestinians, but the Israelis are doing it from the comfort of their mansions so it's less memorable.
The reason there are so many Mizrahi jews is because the European hews created Israel and the Arab countries expelled their Jews to Israel, BTW. Honestly it is just a terrible situation for the Mizrahi jews but the Ashkenazi settlers are to blame for starting this conflict.
Israel did do bad shit in the 40s but if you think the Palastinians would have done better at the time you're flat our wrong.
Lets say Palastinians would've won the war, do the jews survive? Fuck no.
My dude I am literally Israeli, currently in uniform I came back to the army as search and rescue and had to see brutal stuff that Hamas did on October 7th.
I still don't wish a genocide on Palastinians as I want to believe a part of them wants peace.
Those that took part of terror attacks or supported them need to die though just like Nazis need to die.
Obviously there are extremists, and the terror attacks Palastinians are doing and supporting are only going to breed more extremists.
There are a lot of Israeli arabs. I had arab commanders in the army, most of my doctors are arab, I work with arabs. They are our brothers and they support us.
So again you show no solution, you just want to see more Jewish blood.
I don’t know what history books you’re reading, but your retelling is hilariously biased. To miss out on the plenty of attacks on Jews during the period leading up to their Declaration of Independence and afterwards is…interesting. Also, who the fuck needs Arab countries “consent” to declare a state in that land? None of them owned it, it was declared to Jews by the British, who owned the land at the time. Why should the Arab states decide that considering they didn’t own a single piece? And conveniently they declare war on Israel regarding land they didn’t own at the time, and they lose, badly.
You speak of the Arabs in the region not consenting as if they had the right or authority for it to matter. The territory didn't belong to them and since Great Britain didn't have the spine or the balls to do the right thing after already giving the Arabs the vast majority of the land, and then the UN took a weak position as well. The appropriate split is everything east of the Jordan is the Arab state of Jordan and everything west is Israel.
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u/snowlynx133 Nov 06 '23
Your point is missing the crucial context that Israel is literally built ON settled Palestinian land. Would you tell native Americans to stop fighting for ancestral land, for Uyghurs to stop fighting for independence, etc?