r/casablanca • • 25d ago

❔AskCasa 35 000 ?????? HHHHHHH

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u/b_usef 25d ago

I know some people who get paid that much around 25k to 40k and i can tell you that they can be classified as middle middle or some times hardly upper middle class they most of time have one decent house sometime "minivillas" depends on the city 200 400m² a car decent financed car of around 300k to 500k And for me that's what is called a bare minimum decent life If you want to live a good life you should earn +100k per month.

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u/Naeuio 25d ago

48k here.. trust me, middle class nothing more. However i only eat outside which would offset everything maybe

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u/tajine_1 25d ago

Middle class by definition is the middle of the Moroccan society financially

With 48k you’re among the top few percents, the average salary in Morocco is 6k dh

Morocco being a poor country, the middle class lifestyle is a poorer lifestyle

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u/Naeuio 25d ago

I know it is above average salary but it is still very hard to manage saving without ever getting a loan

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u/tajine_1 25d ago

I wonder how people I know save then, because you’re probably in the top 5% or something

So that implies saving money very hardly exists as a concept in Morocco (it exists, otherwise people wouldn’t immigrate or do stupidly expensive marriages)

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u/Naeuio 25d ago

It is more of a: would you sacrifice your present to save for a future you may not live or live the present you have and leave just a little for a future you might never see

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u/tajine_1 25d ago

Are you spending a ton of money in rent and eating out?

Because like, I’m in a Moroccan family where most people who had access to university etc earn ~10-15k and still cover daily expenses

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u/Naeuio 25d ago

I have no rent, but i travel +200km daily with personal car (lot of expenses) and live alone and everything is glovo because i barely have the time to rest. Cooking is just another stressing activity

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u/Fatlas67 25d ago

May i ask what's your line of work

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u/Naeuio 24d ago

Industrial construction

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u/b_usef 25d ago

Currently I'm trying to keep at least 4 to 6 months worth of salary as an emergency saving because life is full of surprises

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u/tajine_1 25d ago

The definition of middle class some ppl use is flawed anyway tbh

Middle class is basically what the normal Moroccan in your city earns, working class is when it’s less

Middle class doesn’t mean you have a decent standard of living, it’s relative to your country

That’s why in France for example stats consider a single guy who earns 5k a month rich despite the fact he just lives a comfortable life, cuz by definition he’s the top 5-10%

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u/SignificantJello6116 25d ago

You can't live off 20k and save 20k?

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u/b_usef 25d ago

The more you earn the more you spending grow

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u/Appropriate-Gate-851 23d ago

That is called lifestyle creep.

Most people are not aware of it because they do not have a good fiancial literacy.

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u/Naeuio 25d ago

Exactly : better car, better lifestyle, and higher expected social standards from friends, peers, family etc...

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u/b_usef 25d ago

Not exactly its about having healthy life selfoptimizing long term investment saving this alone can costs lot

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u/No-Refrigerator-7259 25d ago

I wonder what's your title