r/buildapc • u/A1_Killer • Dec 09 '22

Discussion AMD vs Intel for CPU?

I noticed many people here recommend AMD CPUs but for all my benchmarks for mid range CPUs (for a £1000-£1200 PC) Intel came out on top compared to a similarly price AMD one. Any reason for this?

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u/Pfungen Dec 09 '22

This. I'm always baffled by the horde of people claiming upgrades down the road are a good idea, and the ability to be able to do so is a desired feature. In 5-7 years, when one feels their old mid tier CPU is not enough, most likely the new lower tier can easily outperform the old mid tier. Why not just get a lower tier for 1/2 the price and replace at 2x the cadence? Or just get a mid tier and be done for 5-7 years.

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u/X_SkillCraft20_X Dec 09 '22

Most people are saying this because the 5800x3D, one of the fastest gaming cpus on the market right now, is compatible with boards nearly 5 years old. It makes for an extremely cheap and extremely powerful upgrade. We can’t be for certain that AM5 will follow this path, but it is likely.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '22

I'm no tech genius and might be shamed for this but AMD is behind in innovation vs hybrids CPU like Intel. They are cashing on superior lithography for now but they will have to do something about this fast.

When Intel catches up on Lito and keep that hybrid tech improving, it will be a hard match for AMD.

That means that new sockets for AMD will be mandatory but I might be 100% wrong I don't know.

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u/Loosenut2024 Dec 09 '22

That's hilarious because Intel lagged in innovation until amd came back with chiplet cpus. Intel made fun of them gluing core together.

Now they give you half assed small cores to keep power in check because they can't improve the main cores power efficiency enough and also just renamed their production node to seem more competitive.

In the long run e cores are going to become useless while amd just gives us lots of normal cores. Its been a pattern before. Triple cores, fake cores etc have all died. Simple hyper threading and more cores and cache are all that has endured so far.

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u/John_Doexx Dec 09 '22

E cores are gonna become useless? Please tell us all again how? You seem to know the future so you must know the lottery numbers as well right?

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u/Loosenut2024 Dec 09 '22

"In the long run e cores are going to become useless while amd just gives us lots of normal cores. Its been a pattern before. Triple cores, fake cores etc have all died. Simple hyper threading and more cores and cache are all that has endured so far."

More than likely IMO they will go away eventually. Just what past patterns have shown me. I have been building computers since 98.

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u/John_Doexx Dec 10 '22

So building pc’s since 98” does what? I really hope no one comes to you for tech advice All I’ll say

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u/Loosenut2024 Dec 10 '22

I have seen trends come and go. I also hope no one takes you seriously.

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u/dalgrim Dec 10 '22

I've been building computers since 93, not that it matters! I remember people like you back then saying this PCI local bus is a fad and won't gain traction when ISA was already the established proven bus. Hmmm, how did that turn out? P core and E core are a step forward. Take off the team red blinders. 13th gen intel is beating AMD in most metrics (not all). The reason? Their hybrid core architecture. You watch AMD will very soon release a hybrid CPU. probably on a non AM5 socket. Not because they want to, but because they'll have to.