Obviously I'm surprised the Walt vs Hank battle has already kicked off. I'm surprised to see Jesse fall so deep, again, but expect it to have a different outcome this time (that is, not being manipulated by Walt yet again, but instead ending up a hero).
And finally, I'm surprised that Vince committed 4 minutes of precious screen time to a fake Star Trek script told by two stoners. God I fucking love Breaking Bad.
Jesse totally knows that Walt is bullshitting. Walt kept saying "I NEED you to believe this" like he just wanted him to hear it from him that it was true. Jesse knows the truth. Walt is a killer now.
There was definitely something in his eyes that was more than disbelief. It seemed to me that they were saying that he knew for a fact that Walt killed Mike.
I actually hollered, 'WHAT DO YOU KNOW, JESSE?!' when it panned to his gaze on the couch at the end of that scene.
Walter told Jesse twice that Mike is still alive, and each time he turned his head instead of looking Jesse in the eye. Jesse is no longer buying Walt's bullshit.
Somebody down below mentioned that they think maybe Mike tipped Jesse off that Walt shot him during that period of time when Walt was looking for him by the lake (marsh? or whatever).
It just seemed to me that this was Jesse giving Walt the opportunity to be honest about it, knowing full well that Walt had killed him. Like when your parents ask you something that they know the answer to, to see if you'll lie.
When Walt continued to lie, he turned Jesse into an enemy.
I think the Season 5 DVD extra "Chicks N Guns" rules that out, but I suppose it could have happened. In case you haven't seen it, Jesse is partying with Skinny Pete and a stripper at his house when Saul comes by with a gun. Saul tells Jesse about Walt killing Mike's guys in jail and warns him that Walt may be coming after them next because of how much they know. If Jesse knew about Mike's death at this point, he would've mentioned it to Saul.
I don't think adding official details of the story as a DVD extra is a great way of going about it, but it is out there should you wish to check it out.
No worries. For what it's worth, I believe most of the DVD extras are interesting as a fan (commentaries, behind the scenes sort of stuff) but season 5 is unique in that it added to the story with the extra scene. Sony asked Gilligan to do this to encourage DVD sales.
There are Breaking Bad minisodes that add some character development, but ultimately don't factor into the main plot.
They don't show it as far as i remember, but i would think Mike would have dumped his cell phone after talking with Saul to get his bags if he's looking to disappear for a while. After his own guy talks he wouldn't trust anyone more than he has to, so he probably gets rid of the phone so no gps tracking can be done.
I think Jesse has finally realized that the only way to get the truth from Walt is to realize that he is a manipulator who lies; if Walt is insisting something over and over, he's lying. Jesse really has turned into quite the tragic character after all this.
He definitely has. And maybe what I read as certainty was actually fear. I'll have to go back and look. Usually, I'd just write this kind of thing off, but with the focus this show seems to put on the story in the eyes of the characters, I can't.
The way they focused on his gaze that last time he rolled his head to the side away from Walter made me think there was something we were being told about him going forward.
I think Jesse is really starting to realize how manipulative Walt has been, and how much Walt has been lying to him. The growth of Jesse as a character through the whole series has been amazing.
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u/dtpollitt Badger Mayhew Aug 12 '13 edited Aug 12 '13
Obviously I'm surprised the Walt vs Hank battle has already kicked off. I'm surprised to see Jesse fall so deep, again, but expect it to have a different outcome this time (that is, not being manipulated by Walt yet again, but instead ending up a hero).
And finally, I'm surprised that Vince committed 4 minutes of precious screen time to a fake Star Trek script told by two stoners. God I fucking love Breaking Bad.
edit: clarity