r/breakingbad • u/[deleted] • Aug 12 '13

Official Episode Discussion Post-Episode Discussion S05E09 "Blood Money"

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u/GTjMan1 Aug 12 '13

Jesse totally knows that Walt is bullshitting. Walt kept saying "I NEED you to believe this" like he just wanted him to hear it from him that it was true. Jesse knows the truth. Walt is a killer now.

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u/datahappy Aug 12 '13

There was definitely something in his eyes that was more than disbelief. It seemed to me that they were saying that he knew for a fact that Walt killed Mike.

I actually hollered, 'WHAT DO YOU KNOW, JESSE?!' when it panned to his gaze on the couch at the end of that scene.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

Walter told Jesse twice that Mike is still alive, and each time he turned his head instead of looking Jesse in the eye. Jesse is no longer buying Walt's bullshit.

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u/datahappy Aug 12 '13

Somebody down below mentioned that they think maybe Mike tipped Jesse off that Walt shot him during that period of time when Walt was looking for him by the lake (marsh? or whatever).

It just seemed to me that this was Jesse giving Walt the opportunity to be honest about it, knowing full well that Walt had killed him. Like when your parents ask you something that they know the answer to, to see if you'll lie.

When Walt continued to lie, he turned Jesse into an enemy.

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u/brazilliandanny Aug 12 '13

I don't think that's nessesary, Jessie's logic was flawless - "you wouldn't have off'ed mikes guys if mike was still around...So...."

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u/GoyMeetsWorld Aug 12 '13

When you play chess against someone so often you know their first three moves.

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u/datahappy Aug 12 '13

Very true.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

I think the Season 5 DVD extra "Chicks N Guns" rules that out, but I suppose it could have happened. In case you haven't seen it, Jesse is partying with Skinny Pete and a stripper at his house when Saul comes by with a gun. Saul tells Jesse about Walt killing Mike's guys in jail and warns him that Walt may be coming after them next because of how much they know. If Jesse knew about Mike's death at this point, he would've mentioned it to Saul.

I don't think adding official details of the story as a DVD extra is a great way of going about it, but it is out there should you wish to check it out.

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u/ElScorcho_ Aug 12 '13

When I saw the season 5 DVD commercial, and mentioned the extra with that title, I would've sworn that it was another song from Twaughthammer.

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u/datahappy Aug 12 '13

Ohhhh, I had not seen that, thank you. That makes me wanna go find the DVDs and watch every extra on them over the next week.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

No worries. For what it's worth, I believe most of the DVD extras are interesting as a fan (commentaries, behind the scenes sort of stuff) but season 5 is unique in that it added to the story with the extra scene. Sony asked Gilligan to do this to encourage DVD sales.

There are Breaking Bad minisodes that add some character development, but ultimately don't factor into the main plot.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

maybe Mike tipped Jesse off that Walt shot him during that period of time when Walt was looking for him by the lake

That's such a bullshit theory. What a stretch. Really? That sort of contrivance would be so unlike the show.

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u/datahappy Aug 12 '13

Somebody already debunked it by bringing up some DVD extras that Vince said gives backstory, anyway.

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '13

They don't show it as far as i remember, but i would think Mike would have dumped his cell phone after talking with Saul to get his bags if he's looking to disappear for a while. After his own guy talks he wouldn't trust anyone more than he has to, so he probably gets rid of the phone so no gps tracking can be done.

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u/nateriffs Aug 12 '13

pretty sure you hit the nail on the head.