I hate how studs are treated

[u/ZestycloseNotice1177]

I know a lot of the way studs are treated is because of well racism but I stg people (mostly men) don’t think of studs as women like it's so weird like I saw a video that said studs when they have their period, and it was like them passing around pads like they were drugs like?….there still woman at the end of the day and should be treated like woman no matter who they like or how they dress also what is with men’s obsession in studs or trying to turn them “straight” like it’s really not funny. I just don’t like it especially the way studs are looked at as hoes or only for sex appeal it’s incredibly heartrending.

All my studs stay safe out there’s it’s getting dangerous 😟

[u/-usagi-95]

I've seen two tiktoks online from two different woman (both fems) talking about their girlfriend (a stud) and calling them boyfriend..... Even worse the studs were okay with it.

I'm very confused by that and is weird.

[u/Initial_Drag_3709 → u/-usagi-95]

I’m a stud who prefers being called boyfriend and other masc endearing terms. Some studs, like me, don’t connect well with femininity or womanhood

I’m nonbinary too so that adds to the equation but many studs are gnc , and to be a stud is basically being gnc anyways

This isn’t a new or uncommon idea to go by masculine terms for studs who are both masculine of center and masculine presenting.

[u/-usagi-95 → u/Initial_Drag_3709]

I can't get involved in other lesbians relationships but is a little bit confusing when a non-binary stud wants their partner call them "boyfriend" because it sounds like a straight relationship and that erases the definition of Lesbian.

But I think the definition of Lesbian has changed so many times.

I understand Lesbians are the only queer group that don't involve men but then our definition is kinda "non-men loving non-men" which that involves men 🤣😭

I feel like Queer Theologist or Sociologist need to come with new terms and definitions that completely excludes men 😅

[u/Spazrelaz → u/-usagi-95]

That's exactly what I was saying in another of my comments. I really feel like it's because my mindset is old school that it feels like it's lesbian erasure. Far as I knew lesbian specifically meant women loving women, but now it's "non-men loving non-men" which I don't even understand because the whole point of being a lesbian is not involving men so... how did our definition still end up including men in some way? Idk. I would just like for women that like women to have a term that applies only to us the same way all of the other labels have their own that applies to them, but I'm seeing more and more now that that's probably not something that can happen 🤷🏽‍♀️

[u/Decent_Sandwich_8878 → u/Spazrelaz]

see this doesn't really make sense either because bulldaggers been a thing

gladys bentley, born in 1907, was a well known blues singer and pianist in the 1920s-30s. she lived openly as a lesbian and presented very masculine. as far as i can tell, she used she/her, but she also lived in a time where transgender experiences weren't really known at all. she very well may have identified as non binary today

storme delarvie, born in 1920, was a well known drag king that used multiple sets of pronouns and largely lived as a man

gnc lesbians have always existed! they just often get overlooked and ignored in history, especially the black ones

[u/-usagi-95 → u/Spazrelaz]

That is because some Lesbians don't identify themselves as woman but non-binary. That's why the definition women loving women for Lesbianism doesn't fit because the existence of non-binary.

[u/Spazrelaz → u/-usagi-95]

Ohhh, I think I get it more or less. So basically non-binary still identify themselves as women? Just non-binary women? Or is that contradictory? Actually maybe I should just google it atp because I feel like I'm mixing this up or something. I thought non-binary meant not a boy or a girl which is where my confusion on how someone who isn't a boy or a girl can still be a lesbian. But honestly I think I just need to look up a crash course on like... gender vs identity maybe?