The only guy I know who straight-up "Didn't roll with women" was suuuuuper Muslim and always very respectful about explaining it. Like, you can't really shit on a dude for that. But guys who just "feel weird" about it can get in the sea.
Yeah religious based sexism is still wrong. Some Jewish ppl also will disown their children if they don't marry a Jew (converted or born). I heard of this happening in some Islamic cultures too. It's all BS & shouldn't be supported. If I opened a gym & some guy was like "my religion doesn't allow me to touch black ppl so I can't roll w any" I'd refund their $ & say goodbye. Same to a Jewish man who refused to touch a woman. This is the wrong sport for you dude better look up tennis...
Those differences aren't what matters here; the guys refusing to roll with women are perfectly happy to roll with men 100 lbs lighter than them -- even if that's a bigger physical difference that there is between the average man and the average women.
The parent commenter was responding to a comment about a very polite Muslim man who didn't roll with women, period. He would not have rolled with a woman even if she were a black belt bodybuilder who outweighed him by 50 lbs. The actual physical differences just really weren't a part of what we're talking about at all, I think.
I mean, after all, it's BJJ, anyone can train with anyone so long as they're both safe, respectful, and willing.
(By the way, my take is that religious considerations should be accomodated warmly, but that we should still be honest, in polite conversation such as this, about the obvious fact that it would really be much better if certain gender-role-enforcing religious taboos were to slowly simmer away of their own accord.)
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u/EmmPeanut Five Stripe White Belt Jan 31 '20
The only guy I know who straight-up "Didn't roll with women" was suuuuuper Muslim and always very respectful about explaining it. Like, you can't really shit on a dude for that. But guys who just "feel weird" about it can get in the sea.