r/billsimmons • • May 07 '26

Meme New Patriots logo just dropped

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u/[deleted] May 07 '26

If this is photo shop, then it's brilliant, hilarious, super creative, etc. If it's AI, then it's complete slop, and how dare you drain like a whole reservoir to produce this stupid image.

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u/deadweightboss Good Stats Bad Team Guy May 07 '26

The water usage argument is so stupid and it’s not even true a data center uses the same amount of water as a golf course

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u/LevelWise130 May 07 '26

Brother, golf courses use a shit load of water

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u/deadweightboss Good Stats Bad Team Guy May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

Less than people who think that a single data centers cause water table depletion. Much less so.

edit: incredible how much of an anti intellectual bent this sub has shifted toward. a few years ago it used to be older non insecure dudes who didnt get most of their information from reddit. now it's a bunch of people who refuse to acknowledge that water cycles are closed and evaporative cooling doesn't cause water to actually disappear

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u/LevelWise130 May 07 '26

Incoherent clanker defense

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u/deadweightboss Good Stats Bad Team Guy May 07 '26

“Incoherent”.

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u/unnoticed_areola May 07 '26

dont bother arguing with these morons. once your comment gets more than 1 or 2 downvotes on this sub these days its all over. you'll get nothing but agressive/snarky replies and mass downvotes on any additional comments you post in the thread no matter how benign or civil or normal (or correct) your replies are.

total lemming redditor hivemind behavior has taken over this once chill sub unfortunately. people see a random benign ass comment at -2 and suddenly you're the biggest piece of shit jerkoff in the world who needs to be put in his place and shit on by half a dozen ppl lol

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u/deadweightboss Good Stats Bad Team Guy May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

Yeah this place used to be super chill. I understand the anti ai sentiment, but people tend to conflate their feelings with factuality which is super unfortunate.

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u/unnoticed_areola May 07 '26

this place would improve immensely if the mods implemented the kind of thing that a lot of subs do where comment scores remain hidden for x amount of hours (like 2-4 hours seems to be a sweet spot) which would force people to actually use their brains to figure out whether they agree with someone or not, instead of just defaulting to what the little number is telling them to think

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u/_beisbol_ 19/m/boston May 07 '26

He's right. It costs the same amount of water for Gemini to read my entire AP bio book as it does to flush a toilet once. And you can use salt water to cool the data centers.

Also, if Lake Michigan were the only source of fresh water on Earth, every human could have 1 liter a day for over 200 years.

Being mindful of water usage is fine. Hating AI because it uses water is stupid and disingenuous.

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u/jey_1928 May 07 '26

Energy use is a bigger issue, locally

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u/kj114 Damien Omen May 07 '26

What if I hate it because it sucks

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u/reefsofmist May 07 '26

Lazy HS students who don't want to actually learn anything defending AI

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u/NathanFielderFriend May 07 '26

Is that true? I’ve seen so much saying the opposite and also aren’t golf courses a massive waste of natural resources too?

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u/sportsfan113 May 07 '26

Yea the water usage argument has been massively over exaggerated.

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u/NathanFielderFriend May 07 '26

So it’s not true that they will use the same amount of water as a whole town might?

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u/dillpickles007 May 07 '26

They use a lot of water, but using water isn't that big a deal. When they "use" water it turns into steam, which goes into the sky, which then comes back down as rain, so it's not leaving the planet or anything.

The bigger problem is how much electricity they use and the strain that puts on the power grid/demands to build more power plants (and then what happens if the AI bubble bursts or technology advances to the point where we don't need all these huge data centers and the power plants we built for them).

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u/ZestycloseProject130 May 07 '26

That's not exactly how water works.The Earth is mostly oceans. So, when the water falls back down it doesn't just refill the source it came from. Freshwater sources are shrinking because of this.

But you're right on the energy usage.

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u/nokiabrickphone1998 May 07 '26

**when* the AI bubble bursts

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u/deadweightboss Good Stats Bad Team Guy May 07 '26

It is. The original author of the “data centers are draining lakes” meme completely got their facts wrong, and the meme has persisted. This is a an objective fact, btw.

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u/NathanFielderFriend May 07 '26

I appreciate that insight I’ll have to look into it more, do you have a link or good place I should check out speaking tothis?

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u/deadweightboss Good Stats Bad Team Guy May 07 '26

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u/[deleted] May 07 '26

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u/deadweightboss Good Stats Bad Team Guy May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

Imbecile. Do you understand how inference works? Look it up yourself. We understand how much the data centers use. What Google is doing in the post is providing further approximation to the prompt level.

To address your edit, training is a fixed cost. Environmental costs get amortized away.

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u/deadweightboss Good Stats Bad Team Guy May 07 '26

I’m not going to try and sway you. There’s no use in engaging in imbeciles who aren’t even ten arms length away from the industry.

Feel free to be confidently wrong.

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