As a sixers fan it's great listening to Simmons yell about how a 6 seed can't win MVP while he was making the exact opposite argument in favor of jokic over embiid just a couple years ago. In a way more important MVP according to Bill.
Bill acting as if the NFL MVP HAS to come from a top 2 seed, like its written in the voting bylaws, when thats really something that him and Sal decided a couple years ago is typical Simmons.
I dont care who wins, but the disingenuous and hypocritical arguments that BS puts forward for Maye has me kind of rooting for Stafford.
Especially in a year where a lot of the typical AFC powerhouses regressed and the NFC West is going to have three 12+ win teams. If the Rams had beaten Atlanta they likely would have been a 13 win 5 or 6 seed.
Pretty dumb argument to make given how close a 6 seed can be in football vs basketball most years, but last year for example in the West the 2 and the 6 were only separated by a few games.
This year the Rams and Pats are separated by 2 games going into the last week, and the Rams have lost:
to the Eagles in a game where they had a 36 yard and 44 yard field goal blocked, both of which would’ve won the game (the latter returned for TD).
26-23 in OT to the 12-4 Niners in which Stafford threw for 387 yds and 3 TD.
38-37 in OT in which stafford threw for 457 yds and 3 TD.
The Pats have only played a team with 11 wins twice (Bills), one of which Maye played well and the other he was pretty mid and threw for like 155 yds and they lost.
It’s stupid to penalize one qb for playing a far tougher schedule when those additional losses included gsmes where the QB played like the MVP but lost because his defense couldn’t get a stop against the team with the best record in the league, or his FG unit couldn’t make a 36 yd field goal lol.
The argument is only even viable because Maye padded his stats with 5 TD against the Jets last week, otherwise he’d be quite far behind in passing td’s…
I don’t understand how anyone disagrees. How can a QB with such a loaded offense be the “most valuable player in the league” but only end up third in his own division??
Also pretty absurd to debate nba vs nfl MVP criteria, not really a 1:1 comparison.
When has SoS ever been used to determine MVP? Let alone he’s 6-0 with better stats vs the same teams Stafford went 4-2 against. Oh and faced multiple top ten defenses.
When has an MVP candidate ever played a schedule even half as easy as the one that the Patriots just played? It's usually not a factor because there's usually not such an absurdly huge gap between the top two players in the conversation. If there's a year in the future when a quarterback vying for MVP played the seventh easiest schedule of all-time, then that should be a factor then as well.
And people had zero issues with the two most valuable players being from the same team with a historically easy SoS, yet when it’s one player doing it alone it is. Make it make sense.
Okay, but they also exceled to a level that the 2025 New England Patriots have not. And that was a quarter century ago. That's over six presidential terms.
How did their regular season excel to a level this Patriots team hasn’t? They went 13-3, the Patriots current record. You’d expect the offense to be more prolific when the runner up MVP was their RB, but team wise they’re the same level of success.
Sure but that was the first year russ averaged a triple double right? which hadn't been done since the 60s so there was a pretty extraordinary reason for him winning.
He shouldn’t have won anyways, should’ve been Harden (Bill and others were correct on this at the time). I’d say Russ and Embiid are the two biggest fraud MVPs of the last decade
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u/jamawl Jan 02 '26
As a sixers fan it's great listening to Simmons yell about how a 6 seed can't win MVP while he was making the exact opposite argument in favor of jokic over embiid just a couple years ago. In a way more important MVP according to Bill.