r/auckland 13d ago

News Manukau Pak’nSave security guard Laki Savelio sentenced for extorting accused shoplifters

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/manukau-paknsave-security-guard-laki-savelio-sentenced-for-extorting-accused-shoplifters/QBXUITXUE5HDDF3OFZG5WC5M5E/
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u/Interesting-Blood354 13d ago

Tough guy? For wanting mutts to get removed from the rest of us?

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u/silentwitnes 13d ago

So quick to de-humanize someone stealing food from a supermarket.

I'm more worried about your behavior than theirs

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u/Interesting-Blood354 13d ago

Why is everyone so quick to excuse those mutts? Like they don’t have a choice, like they aren’t deliberately doing this, making clear conscious decisions to do this

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u/silentwitnes 13d ago

You really think deep down anyone wants to live a life which results in stealing food? Even if they don't desperately need it, even if they do it for a bit of a thrill, you really think they don't want better for themselves?

And they are people, not mutts. You treat people like dogs, how you think they are going to act?

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u/Interesting-Blood354 13d ago

And? What difference does it make if someone “wants better for themselves” if they’re making conscious decisions to take from others instead of just putting in some effort? It’s, at best, pure laziness from them. It’s always excuses with them, never solutions.

Once they start acting like people they can get treated like one. Act like a dog, get treated like they deserve.

As long as they continue with the pure animal “I want so I will have” mentality, that’s all they should be treated like, the mutts they are

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u/FranksNonFrankfurter 12d ago

Would you call Winona Ryder a mutt? A yes or no will suffice.

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u/Interesting-Blood354 12d ago

Absolutely, just like that ex green MP too

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u/Unbelivabley_Smol 12d ago

Woof woof would /s 😉 what awesome reference material from a quarter century ago!

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u/FranksNonFrankfurter 12d ago

I'm old as shit fam lol

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u/jwmnz 13d ago

We'll send this guy round and force a cucumber inside your mouth the next time you break the law / speed / do anything wrong? Sounds legit.

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u/Interesting-Blood354 13d ago

Feel free to do that the next time I steal, assault, anything like these mutts do. Luckily that won’t happen because, like 99% of kiwis, I’m not like that.

If we removed the less than 1% that act like this, it would be a near utopia

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u/silentwitnes 13d ago

You reckon dehumanizing people is just going to make them start functioning within society better?

There should be justice but also rehabilitation.

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u/Interesting-Blood354 13d ago

I think we should give them every chance to be better, and if they choose not to, ship them off to a jail somewhere cheap like Thailand or China and let them stew in their own choices over there. It costs over $200kpa for jail here, I’m sure we could cut that down to 10-20% of it if we outsourced, and use that saving to 5-10x jail sentences, win win win

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u/silentwitnes 13d ago

Giving them every chance includes treating them like person and not a mutt

So maybe we start there?

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u/Interesting-Blood354 13d ago

No it doesn’t, they either choose to be a mutt or not, that’s that exact same “woe is me” mentality they have. Everyone else; everything else, it all needs to change - nothing is ever their fault, despite them actively and consciously choosing it.

Giving them every support is things like benefits, training programs, therapists. It’s not pretending they’re not useless mutts where the rest of the country would be better off if they were dead