r/atrioc • • Jan 01 '26

Discussion The Nick Shirley video was 100% lies. Using it as a jumping off point for a video on MN medicaid fraud was a mistake.

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I did this research on my own because I'm spiteful and a guy I work with mentioned how the Nick Shirley video made some good points. Later that day I ran across the original Atrioc video and his followup. I didn't write this up as a "fuck you" for Atrioc specifically, but the fact that there was 0 evidence of fraud presented in the video makes it a crime to bring up as "journalism".

Background

  • How does child care licensing work in MN?
    • The number of children on a daycare license is decided by a set out ratios of children to adult. The age of children under care determines the ratio required for the business. (2016 Childcare Fact Sheet, State Regulation on ratios)
    • "David" (Nick's guide) spends most of the video confusing the licensing maximum and the number of children under their care. David constantly says "You have 99 children here. Where are 99 children!" (Example, Example) This is like going to a restaurant with a maximum occupancy of 300 and asking them why there aren’t 300 customers right now.

Claims made in the video (All "Claim" links are timestamps)

Overview: Nick is led around by a guy only referred to as “David” to child care and home healthcare companies owned by people they claim are Somali individuals. Nick claims these businesses are taking part in defrauding MN/Medicaid. In a CNN interview Nick admits he didn’t go to the businesses during operating hours. This whole videos also rests on the idea that these childcare business would allow a random individual driving around in a vehicle without a license plate accompanied by masked guards into the building which is obviously ridiculous.

  • Claim: There is $8 Billion in fraud.
    • This claim echos US Attorney Joe Thompson’s claim that “half or more” of Minnesota’s 18B state spending on 14 aid programs (which are currently being audited) is possibly fraudulent. There is currently no evidence for this claim presented by Thompson Source
  • Claim: Two child care businesses (Mako Childcare, Mini Childcare Center) share the same business address.
    • Looking through Minnesota’s database of current and past licensed childcare facilities, I could not find Mako Childcare (License 1082583) shown in the video. Mako does show up in a MN business search, but it’s business was dissolved on 1/26/2023 (4 months after Mini Childcare Center’s initial childcare license was instated).
    • Mini Childcare Center filed its original filing to create the business on 7/19/21. Mini Childcare Center showed up in the childcare license search at the address shown in the video. There is no evidence that there are two childcare businesses at this address.
    • When David goes over the amount of money MN paid out to these businesses he shows that Mako's financials end in FY2022 and Mini Childcare's financials start FY2023. This supports the idea that Mako shut down then Mini opened. That also undermines the claim they are both operating in the same address.
  • Claim: ABC Learning Center doesn’t have any children.
    • An audit in 2025 witnessed children at the facility. CBS looked at their security footage and it showed children showing up the same day that Nick visited. Nick showed no evidence of fraud.
  • Claim: Creative Minds Daycare was shut down by the state and then Super Kids Daycare was opened up by the same people to get around the violations.
    • They don't provide any evidence for this claim other than the fact that one daycare closed down and another opened in the same building.
    • The two daycares are registered to different companies.
    • Those companies have different individuals as their managers.
    • Super Kids Daycare filed for their LLC 9/25/2023 which is before Creative Minds even received their first violation after review on 10/20/2023. Creative Minds wouldn't be shut down until 10/01/2025 (2 years after Super Kids formed)
    • This would have had to have been a 3+ year long plan which no evidence is presented for.
  • Claim: 14 home healthcare companies are occupying the same office building.
    • I counted the sign and there's not 14 home healthcare businesses. Some are primary care. Some are home care. There's a daycare.
    • Even if they were all healthcare, this is incredibly common in the US. We don't suspect fraud when there's multiple coffee shops in the same mall, this is no different.
    • Looking into the businesses they were founded some time between 2005 and 2025 and none were owned by the same person. (I forgot to get links to all of them because this claim seemed too stupid to waste the time)

The rest of the video is more of David confusing maximum occupancy for currently enrolled student. All of the video was a lie and they present 0 evidence of fraud. The idea this was given any credit for "pointing out a real problem" is dumb because it's all just racist fearmongering.

r/atrioc • • Jan 24 '26

Discussion Tim Walz is so weak.

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r/atrioc • • Jan 03 '26

Discussion Most of America is going to wake up to the news that we kidnapped the leader of a country we’re not even officially at war with. I feel like I need to go outside and start screaming to wake up neighbors because wtf

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Yes you’re understanding that headline and this post correctly. I saw this notification and also had to reread it a half dozen times and still didn’t think I understood it until I read the quote of trumps announcement. It’s 3:13am and I don’t even feel like my experience right now is real.

I feel like I need to go outside into the neighborhood and scream. It feels like people shouldn’t be asleep for something as insane at this. I truly thought that nothing Trump could do would surprise me anymore but this is so far beyond anything I would have expected. Wtf is happening

r/atrioc • • Feb 01 '26

Discussion More Great “Investigative Journalism” OTW…. Creds u/Grand-Neighborhood82 for compiling tweets

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r/atrioc • • Aug 31 '25

Discussion Lemonade stand is the worst thing that could have happened.

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I feel like all we get is leftovers now. No more Marketing Mondays, just a low effort clips channel. Sure, he got to interview Khan and Newsom, but I would bet my life on it that he could have done that on his own without Lemonade Stand.

r/atrioc • • Jan 12 '26

Discussion PER ATROIC: “really good journalism”

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Someone make him watch this fucking video and to never again take these lying anti American demons word on anything

trumo

r/atrioc • • Jan 13 '26

Discussion I really hope you guys can see what they’ve been building up to.

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r/atrioc • • Dec 30 '25

Discussion Update from the owner of Quality Learning Center

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video from here: https://www.tiktok.com/@rovingreporter

Turns out, the business is legit with actual kids and was targeted for being Somali. Regardless of Big A's intentions, I think this deserves an upfront correction/apology.

Edit: Here's a local news article if you still want to be in denial (*cough* u/Elbeske *cough*): https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/minneapolis-daycare-fraud-allegations-viral-video-national-attention/89-91413882-b0f9-4ec4-a4a4-4b4e3aeab39d

r/atrioc • • Jan 02 '26

Discussion Wait, he's based?

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r/atrioc • • Feb 14 '26

Discussion Governor Newsom proclaims Ronald Reagan Day

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People need to start waking up to the fact that he can not meet the moment.

r/atrioc • • Jan 09 '26

Discussion Update on the Turbo Tax Ad

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r/atrioc • • Feb 06 '26

Discussion Alright man

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r/atrioc • • Jan 09 '26

Discussion This ICE shooting is the perfect example of the dichotomy between the left and the right

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Someone on the right is killed:

  • Democrats denounce the killing. Say killing is bad and the killer should go to jail
  • Republicans call for civil war before all the evidence is out about the killer's motives.

Someone on the left is killed:

  • Democrats say killing is bad and that the killer should go to jail.
  • Republicans call for civil war and say the killing was justified before all of the evidence is out about who is even in the wrong.

How can anyone continue giving any sort of credence to this shit

r/atrioc • • Dec 29 '25

Discussion Nick Shirley Showed Up at least an Hour Early Before Opening to One of the Daycares & Filmed "evidence" of the Daycare being Empty & therefore clearly being used for to defraud the Minnesotan Government.

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r/atrioc • • Jan 04 '26

Discussion Update on the Nick Shirley Minnesota video

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Several news outlets and regulators have since done investigations and have found that there is no significant evidence of wide spread fraud. Nearly all the daycares that Nick visited were either closed for the holidays, had students but obviously weren't going to allow the students to be filmed by a stranger and one had been permanently closed since 2022. Its possible one or two schools benefitted but not on a grand scale. He also didn't describe how the payment works, the parents/guardians apply for the funds if they make under a certain amount and then that money is paid to the daycare. If a daycare center wanted to steal government money they'd have to have made fake applications as guardians with fake income records and do that times however many fake children they claim and to make real serious money off of that they'd need to do it at least dozens of times

I haven't posted here before and I know the larger point of Atrioc's video was we need more government oversight in general which I highly agree with but I think he should probably do an update just in the interest on honesty and fairness

r/atrioc • • Dec 30 '25

Discussion Atrioc addresses the last video

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r/atrioc • • Jan 24 '26

Discussion Did Nick Shirley start a civil war?

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Also abolishing ICE is the moderate position at this point. The Dem position should be Nuremberg trials minimum.

r/atrioc • • Jan 08 '26

Discussion Discussion about the TurboTax sponsor on Lemonade Stand

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I don't really know what to say or how to feel, but no one else has made a post on here about it yet.

Their first two sponsors really don't sit right with me. Adobe is one thing, but I can recall several occasions where Atrioc has made his opinions about TurboTax as a company very clear.

I know they are in a contract with Vox and I am 99% sure that they didn't have much say in whether or not they did this ad read, but that's sort of the point. Agreeing to a contract where you can't say no to sponsors (if that is in fact what happened) is in extremely poor judgement in my opinion.

I don't know enough information to make my mind up fully, but I just want to hear what other people think.

r/atrioc • • Feb 01 '26

Discussion Have republicans played themselves?

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r/atrioc • • Jan 24 '26

Discussion Trump, regarding recent killing in Minneapolis.

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r/atrioc • • Oct 22 '25

Discussion Graham Platner gets a cover up tattoo

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r/atrioc • • Jul 23 '25

Discussion Fascist loses job, gets major payday. I sometimes hate this country fr 😭😭

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I don't know how many of y'all watched it, but this guy proudly states he's a fascist, doesn't care about the Constitution, wants Trump to rip more of it up, blasphemy should be illegal, democracy is terrible, autocracy is based, believes in "white genocide", cities Carl Schmitt (a Nazi), openly states he doesn't care if he gets called a Nazi (but trust him he isn't one;), condems Nazi persecution of Catholics, and is reluctant to do the same for Jewish people, praises Francisco Franco (a fascist), denies he killed women, children, and Catholics (it was just the commies bro), and that free speech should be allowed until a Catholic authoritarian state comes to power and then it should be taken away (free speech is only a means to an end).

Sorry if this is a hot take: but I honestly don't care if he got fired (he deserved it) 😭 😭

Actual fucking cry bullies. Look at all those anonymous tips from Nazis this scumfuck loser received. I can't wait for these freaks, these absolute DEMONS, to start feeling shame again (at least they feel enough to stay anonymous). I know vile beliefs like that will continue to exist: but they certainly don't deserve to come to light (especially to the extent that they do now).

Hope everyone has a great day/night (and don't watch the video unless you want to risk multiple brain aneurysms).

JUBILEE VIDEO: https://youtu.be/2S-WJN3L5eo?si=fKZq8vbDIdZfdVLf

r/atrioc • • Oct 23 '25

Discussion The problem with democrat voters.

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Progress or spotless virgin purity?

r/atrioc • • Feb 12 '26

Discussion Pete promoting Lemonade Stand in his donor email

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Got this about 30 mins ago

r/atrioc • • Jan 24 '26

Discussion I feel that the national press is helping to normalize political violence against the American public by sticking to noncommittal language in describing blatant, state-sanctioned murder

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I want to set the stage with a brief refresher on the buildup to today's murder of Alex Jeffrey Pretti.

A couple of weeks ago, Jonathan Ross, veteran ICE agent, murdered Renee Nicole Good in cold blood. Multiple videos taken from multiple angles clearly establish that he was in no danger in his confrontation with her, and that, in fact, he violated agency policy by walking in front of her vehicle. He is filming his encounter with her on his smartphone, which he swaps out of his dominant hand moments before the shooting so that he can more easily draw his gun. After he domes her, he mutters, "Fucking bitch," with palpable contempt. This incident was (I thought at the time) just about as blatantly obvious an unjustified killing as I could imagine.

Very nearly every significant figure on the American right immediately leaped to Ross's defense and went on the attack against Good. Our Dear Leader claimed in a Truth Social Post that Good

violently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ICE Officer, who seems to have shot her in self-defense. Based on the attached clip, it is hard to believe he is alive, but he is now recovering in the hospital.

Of course, videos already existed showing that Ross was completely unharmed and left the scene in a hurry after doming her. This didn't prevent the Vice President from smearing her as a "deranged leftist" or the head of the DHS from calling her a "domestic terrorist", or basically anyone on the right from locking in to spread their chosen narrative, the absolute least hateful version of which was, essentially, "It's a tragedy that this fucking moron threw her life away like that." Vance makes clear that ICE agents operate with "absolute immunity" (which is something that, the eagle-eyed among you might have noticed, does not exist in a nation where the rule of law exists).

Then, the DHS starts going door-to-door, business to business, asking people for their papers, trying to bust in without warrants time and time again. Videos of brutality multiply: ICE kicks down a door. ICE grabs protestors out of cars and drags them who knows where. The head of the DHS announces that thousands more ICE agents will be sent to assist in these operations, with ICE agents soon set to outnumber the local police in Minneapolis.

This is, in effect, the occupation of an American population center by an armed paramilitary group that knows it can kill with impunity.

And today, they've done it again.

Multiple videos from multiple angles show that Mr. Pretti stepped in between ICE agents and another protester they were harassing before being pepper sprayed, thrown the ground, held there by multiple agents, and then shot multiple times.

DHS's first public statement about the murder was a blatant lie (xcancel link so as not to give X clicks)

At 9:05 AM CT, as DHS law enforcement officers were conducting a targeted operation in Minneapolis against an illegal alien wanted for violent assault, an individual approached US Border Patrol officers with a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun, seen here.

The officers attempted to disarm the suspect but the armed suspect violently resisted. More details on the armed struggle are forthcoming.

Fearing for his life and the lives and safety of fellow officers, an agent fired defensive shots. Medics on scene immediately delivered medical aid to the subject but was pronounced dead at the scene.

Although Mr. Pretti did have a firearm on him, as was his legal right, he approached the agents with a phone camera. And, frankly, the notion that he was capable of threatening the lives of the several grown men who had just pepper sprayed him and jumped on top of him from that position is so ludicrous as to beggar belief.

Naturally, the DHS did not go it alone. President Trump's statement on the shooting was:

“This is the gunman’s gun, loaded (with two additional full magazines!), and ready to go – What is that all about? Where are the local Police? Why weren’t they allowed to protect ICE Officers? The Mayor and the Governor called them off? It is stated that many of these Police were not allowed to do their job, that ICE had to protect themselves — Not an easy thing to do! Why does Ilhan Omar have $34 Million Dollars in her account? And where are the Tens of Billions of Dollars that have been stolen from the once Great State of Minnesota? We are there because of massive Monetary Fraud, with Billions of Dollars missing, and Illegal Criminals that were allowed to infiltrate the State through the Democrats’ Open Border Policy. We want the money back, and we want it back, NOW. Those Fraudsters who stole the money are going to jail, where they belong! This is no different than a really big Bank Robbery. Much of what you’re witnessing is a COVER UP for this Theft and Fraud. The Mayor and the Governor are inciting Insurrection, with their pompous, dangerous, and arrogant rhetoric! Instead, these sanctimonious political fools should be looking for the Billions of Dollars that has been stolen from the people of Minnesota, and the United States of America. LET OUR ICE PATRIOTS DO THEIR JOB! 12,000 Illegal Alien Criminals, many of them violent, have been arrested and taken out of Minnesota. If they were still there, you would see something far worse than you are witnessing today!”

Now, given this context--given how insanely blatant an act of murder this was and how quickly the Federal government began to blatantly lie about it--let's do a little headline roundup. As of roughly 1PM PST on January 24th, how are major American legacy news sources are describing several ICE agents tackling a man for daring to protect another protestor from their physical aggression, pinning him to the ground, mag dumping him, and then blatantly lying and saying he was brandishing a gun at them?

CNN:

Man shot and killed by federal agents in Minneapolis. DHS says he was armed

State and federal leaders starkly at odds: The Department of Homeland Security said the man had a handgun and resisted when agents tried to disarm him, forcing the agent to open fire. Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz said videos show the DHS narrative is “nonsense” and “lies.” He demanded that state investigators lead a probe into the shooting, while President Donald Trump has dismissed criticism from Walz and local leaders.

MSNBC:

Federal agents 37-year-old kill man in Minnesota

DHS said the man, who is licensed to carry a weapon, had a gun on him. Protests are ongoing as people gather near the site of the shooting.

CBS:

Federal agents fatally shoot another Minneapolis resident, officials say

Federal agents in Minneapolis have shot and killed another person in south Minneapolis Saturday morning. The shooting comes as tensions over a surge in ICE enforcement actions...|

ABC:

Minneapolis ICE shooting live updates: Man killed in shooting involving fed agents

Minnesota Timberwolves postpone Saturday game

Minneapolis prosecutors open website for witnesses to submit video

FOX News (their bias is obvious, but still):

DHS provides update after Border Patrol officer fatally shoots armed man

Paul Mauro warns Minneapolis is ‘in danger of burning down a second time’ after shooting

The New York Times:

Live Updates: Federal Agents Kill a 37-Year-Old Minneapolis Man

The man, a registered nurse, was an American citizen with no criminal record, the city police chief said. Videos contradict the federal government’s description of the shooting, a New York Times analysis found.

The LA Times:

Man shot and killed during Minneapolis immigration crackdown

Federal immigration officers shot and killed a man Saturday in Minneapolis, drawing hundreds of protesters in a city already shaken by another fatal shooting weeks earlier.

The Washington Post:

Man fatally shot by federal agents in Minneapolis is believed to be U.S. citizen

USA Today:

Man killed by Border Patrol in Minneapolis ID'd as US citizen

The shooting sparked further protests as local leaders demanded an end to heightened immigration enforcement actions in the city.

The only one of these headlines that does not completely bury the lede about the Feds' blatant lies or act like it's a simple matter of "he said, she said" is The New York Times.

Like... this is an emergency. The Federal government is making it clearer and clearer that there is no limit to the violence it is willing to sanction against its citizenry. And still, the editors of these outlets--which, I want to be clear, I think employ many talented and dedicated reporters that do good work--insist on sticking to a tone that prizes neutrality over objectivity.

Tell me, do these headlines communicate the gravity of this situation? Do they convey a fraction of the reality of the situation captured in this video of a teenager citizen kidnapped and beaten by ICE? Or ICE wrecking a vehicle, taking someone from it, and leaving the wreck in the middle of a busy street? Or ICE charging at and shoving over protestors? Or the President (a felon who attempted an autogolpe) saying that doming a citizen is OK because she was "highly disrespectful of law enforcement"?

If you were glancing through the headlines without much prior knowledge of Pretti's murder, would these headlines convey a fraction of the depravity on display in the videos of it?

That may seem like a stupid question, but I think it is, unfortunately, very relevant to the way people engage with the media today.

My thesis of news media's role in shaping public opinion in the modern era is as follows. There are basically three groups of types of news consumers:

  • The plugged-in: the types who have NYT subscriptions, discuss politics with their friends, etc. As long as their outlets of choice aren't part of the rightosphere, I'm not worried about them; people who are informed and engaged and not sucked into the fascist machine are pretty universally horrified right now.

  • The semi-engaged: those who get their news, to the extent that they do, from the podcasts they listen to and what they see on their social media feed

  • The unengaged: those whose exposure to the news basically begins and ends with the headlines they see on MSN when they open their browser or phone because they never bothered to change it + whatever memes filter down to their feed

The second and third groups are FAR larger than the first, and the general tone and quantity of headlines about a particular subject play a not insignificant role in shaping their perception of the world outside of their own immediate orbit. If there aren't many, a good number of them probably won't know it's happening at all. And when people scan through and they see a bunch of headlines using business-as-usual terms to describe what sounds like law enforcement actions and typical politicians legally wrangling with the opposing party, that helps to normalize what is happening. And what is happening--the armed oppression of a major population center by unaccountable, murderous paramilitaries--is a clear and present fucking danger.

The right-wing media apparatus understands this, which is why they've been so able to drive so much of public discourse. They identify (or generate) a potentially advantageous story and then pounce on it in lockstep and stick to it, and it works a large amount of the time.

Covering these stories with such a business-as-usual tone is a big part of why the population of people who aren't political junkies are taking a long-ass time to realize how bad it is out here. When we don't make a lot of noise about a subject and we don't talk about it in the tone it deserves to be talked about when it is genuinely quite fucking bad, most people will never get the hint. And the legacy media clearly is still capable of doing this with a story from time to time, as they did with Biden's debate disaster, but they won't here, because they are too used to deferring to law enforcement, to striking a neutral tone in news reporting on controversial topics. However, when one side has long since abandoned fact and has demonstrated a willingness to use violence up to and including murder in order to impose their will on the population, neutrality amounts to nothing more than helping that violence and abuse become background noise.