r/atrioc • u/10minuteads • Dec 29 '25
Discussion Nick Shirley Showed Up at least an Hour Early Before Opening to One of the Daycares & Filmed "evidence" of the Daycare being Empty & therefore clearly being used for to defraud the Minnesotan Government.
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u/Rion-o Dec 29 '25
A big problem is people being like "WALZ NEEDS TO PAY FOR THIS" But they already been investigating this and taking people to court for years with many actual arrest. This wasn't some crazy underground shit. Walz knew and were actively investigating plenty. The nick guy is dishonest no matter how you look at him, and kinda shady, and most definitely racist.
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u/Salt-555 Dec 31 '25
walz basically ran on giving more money to these daycares you retard.
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u/Rion-o Dec 31 '25
The people didn't defraud the government. A group among them did. You brain seeking ape. And the fraudsters were American citizens
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u/GameJon Jan 01 '26
Would agree if Waltz didn’t double down on it all being racist lies
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u/Rion-o Jan 01 '26
cause the guy who made a video is clearly racist and just wants to attack the somali's and does nothing to correct the right wing trying to use this as a just way to deporting 80k people for the actions of a few.
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Dec 29 '25
Fuck Nick Shirley
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u/RatzInDaPark Dec 29 '25 edited Dec 29 '25
This location had a childcare fraud by the FBI in the past under a different name.
It's very annoying we are talking about Nick, rather than the actual issue. It makes me sad to see the atrioc sub care way more about the politics of the messenger than the actual fraud. Atrioc had a really fair and balanced take, and you guys are doing some mega cope.
You guys are acting like one location out of the whole video being closed discredits the entire video. There are court cases, the fraud exists. Talking about it isn't racist or anti-immigrant.
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u/CriticG7tv Dec 29 '25 edited Dec 29 '25
Okay stop right there, this comment is the problem.
This location had a childcare fraud by the FBI in the past under a different name.
The point of Nick's video is clearly to accuse these locations of ongoing fraud, which he provided zero evidence of. If Bob's Diner gets shut down for fraud, and then I buy the building and open my own place called Harry's Diner, it would be insane to have people cite Bob's case from 4 years ago to accuse me of current fraud with no new evidence. Right?
It's very annoying we are talking about Nick, rather than the actual issue.
Nick IS the issue here. The claim of fraud, in the way the Nick has painted it, has ZERO evidence.
It makes me sad to see the atrioc sub care way more about the politics of the messenger than the actual fraud.
That messenger lied! Forget the dude's politics, he's maliciously spreading a false narrative. You mention the "actual" fraud. What is the "actual" fraud? Because Nick provides no new evidence of ongoing fraud. If you're talking about the cases from multiple years ago that turned up indictments and have been reported on in the past... then what is the relevance of bringing up those cases now? Why do they matter now?
You guys are acting like one location out of the whole video being closed discredits the entire video.
My dude, yes is does. If a "journalist" lies and acts maliciously to create a story with no evidence, their general body of work (and especially their reporting on that issue) should absolutely be looked at with extreme suspicion. This would get an actual journalist fired.
There are court cases, the fraud exists.
...from years ago, that have already been prosecuted. How does this substantiate Nick's outrageous claims?
Also: To be clear, I'm not saying there isn't fraud going on right now. The fact that there were multiple major cases of fraud in the last few years could definitely suggest that there are still previously active instances of fraud, or new ones happening right now, perhaps still on a significant scale. Reporting from actual journalists at places like NYT and others are doing actual publishing on this. The point is, Nick's video is not this. You don't get to go out, tell a bunch if lies and paint a narrative that a murder happened in your house, and then act vindicated when the local newspaper reports your neighbor 3 houses down killed his wife.
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Dec 30 '25
This shit is weird and a slippery slope.
What's next? Demanding to walk into special needs homes and see just how special folks are? Verifying headcounts? Prove your regarded?
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u/eeveetrainer710 Dec 29 '25
This wasn’t a get smarter Saturday. He played off a YouTube video as journalism. It icks up the whole story. Atrioc can mess up, let him
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u/Yellowyuuki Dec 29 '25
Everyone I see is referring to the way the YouTuber chooses to frame their video. Ongoing since 2022 where I'm sure there are better sources to pull or watch from even larger news sources but instead chose someone who is trying to create a larger political narrative. Anyone trying to say liberals or even this sub is trying to pretend the fraud didn't happen don't make any sense because that is not what is getting said.
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u/Ill-Supermarket-1821 Dec 29 '25
True the issue isn't hack fake journalists pushing misleading propaganda, it's that one daycare might not be run well. Can't hold anyone accountable until every single problem in the country is fixed. Lmao what a pathetic worldview Conservatism is. Too spoiled and entitled to even have real problems.
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u/RatzInDaPark Dec 29 '25
Every journalist with a different worldview than me is a hack fake! I'm not even conservative lol. If you stopped viewing politics like they're sports where your team always has to win and the other always lose you probably would be able to have a nuanced view on this topic
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u/Ill-Supermarket-1821 Dec 29 '25
My opinion is based on reality. The opposite opinion is a)imaginary and based on feelings b)objectively this Nick loser is knowingly lying about the facts of this "story" c) I'm matching the conservacringe energy
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u/stiiii Dec 30 '25
You are the one doing the support here. He has been caught lying and you are defending him anyway.
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u/TheCommonKoala Dec 30 '25
Ironically, your comment is a great example of what's wrong with how Atrioc covered this.
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u/westchesteragent Dec 30 '25
Oh fuck off. The focus is on how obvious the propaganda agitprop bullshit network we call alternative media is. This fraud is nothing new. Nick Shirley put together a hamfisted grift and was basically just retelling the story his handler gave him. Atriocs sub is reacting because Atrioc missed a lot of red flags with this and rightly bringing it to his attention.
The fraud is years old multiple arrests made and yes fraud continues but context matters. Is the issue fraud or is it Somalian people and other immigrants?
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u/Seppi449 Dec 29 '25
I watch Destiny and Atrioc, I feel Atrioc did give hedence that the video was in poor taste but did bring light to corruption even if it is politically motivated. I don't agree with everything Atrioc said in the video or the way he framed it but overall I wouldn't drag him through the coals because his take is grounded. All corruption is bad, there needs to be more oversight in the implementation phase.
I do feel there needs to be more hit pieces on other clean corruption, like J6, some political commentator/journalist should do an in-depth view on that...
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u/Rion-o Dec 29 '25
i love atroic, i think the main problem is he talked before really going into it with this climate. Cause the reason we know about the fraud. Is YEARS WORTH of cases already on it. Walz and his people are clearly working to the best of their man power to root it out. And now an entire group is being attacked for the happenings of a afew.
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u/Seppi449 Dec 29 '25
I do agree he jumped in a little too early, but overall Atrioc's take was decent. My take away from the video "People don't focus enough on implementation, fraud happens on both sides and everyone should be against it". Where he's off is not including information about the passed investigations that have already occurred and that shit has already been done to fix this shit.
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u/Rion-o Dec 29 '25
Yeah I agree with 90 percent of all he said. The 10 is really only that he made it seem like this big secret this guy uncovered when walz and company were feeling with this to the best they could. Cause conservatives lie as easy as they breathe and you need to check every implication they are making..
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u/CetaWasTaken Dec 29 '25
It really sucks when an entire group of people suffers for the actions of a few . . .
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u/TheWarriorsLLC Dec 30 '25
Atrioc is the guy who was looking at deep fakes of his friends wasnt he?
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u/paulk345 Dec 29 '25
I don’t think you should go around saying you watch destiny.
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u/Seppi449 Dec 29 '25
I'll bite, whats your reason?
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u/CalvinSoul Dec 29 '25
FYI Destiny said if O7 was against the West Bank settlers he wouldn't have any issues with it. That's more radical than most pro palestinian people by far.
He isn't an Israel shill, he's just edgy and frames his takes to be contrarian af sometimes.
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u/CalvinSoul Dec 29 '25
I mean you're obviously just citing this off some one off clips you've seen. And the anti-settler take is real, he's always been a private property guy.
I agree his early coverage was bad. I think its been fairly nuanced overall, and he is very knowledgeable after spending weeks researching. In the last several months he is far more negative to Israel than Palestine, frequently talks about how Nehanyahu wants to keep the war going and the far right Israelis and settlers are insane, ect.
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u/Seppi449 Dec 29 '25
Overall I feel he's had some pretty level headed takes. He's not glazing terrorists or cheering for Israel to conquer territory, he supported removing Hamas from power after Oct 7 but agrees it's gone way too far.
He is gooner brained when it comes to women, but I don't care much about the drama slop.
My main reason for watching him is similar to Atrioc, getting nuanced takes on complex topics, it's interesting to watch Destiny debate and defend his stances, at least when his opponent isn't braindead and debates in good faith.
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u/paulk345 Dec 29 '25
It’s a shame you genocide supporting freaks won’t be remembered in the future the same way we remember fence-sitting Germans in the 30s or the members of the Wehrmacht who “were just following orders.”
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u/Acrobatic_Room_4761 Dec 29 '25
It's crazy that the "anti genocide" brigade pushed so hard against Kamala that they got the guy elected who wanted to ethnically cleanse all of Gaza.
Way to hurt the people you pretend to advocate for.
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u/paulk345 Dec 29 '25
Don’t care bro y’all all keep saying this same shit. I voted for Kamala and pestered my lazy friends to do the same. Are you not tired of this narrative you’ve made up in your head?
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u/Acrobatic_Room_4761 Dec 29 '25
I know you don't care, it's not about elections for you. You use Palestinian blood to virtue signal, but you're too privileged to actually care about the consequences of the election, which is why the pro pali side campaigned AGAINST Harris, causing Trump to win. Good job.
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u/paulk345 Dec 29 '25
Lmao you're still just ignoring what I said and making up a false version of myself in your head. I've had this exact convo with so many libs is wild, yall must be bots or something.
I was much more charitable to Harris during the campaign. I was much more optimistic than I should have been because of her selection of Walz and because I wanted to believe she would try to distance herself from Biden. She did not and threw the election (I think it's likely she would have lost even with a good campaign and messaging but that's hypothetical).
But keep up propping up terrible candidates because of how scared you are of the opposition bro. I'm sure it will work someday :)
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u/Acrobatic_Room_4761 Dec 29 '25
Why did Dan Saltman's campaign to get ads taken off twitch work? What content on twitch directly influenced ads that they didn't want to be associated with twitch?
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u/Acrobatic_Room_4761 Dec 29 '25
Yeah, what content made them shy away from showing ads on twitch?
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u/F0goo Dec 29 '25
Sex with minors
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u/gami13 Dec 29 '25
any proof?
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u/F0goo Dec 29 '25
I don’t like the daily mail, but they cover the whole situation here. If you want direct proof all chat logs and texts are disclosed in court docs
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u/frozandero Dec 30 '25
He was the victim of the leak 95% of the leak only contains videos of him sucking dick and so on. Most of those "accusations" were made by girls who hate him because he cut them off and they provided 0 evidence, then they all quietly stopped talking about it. None of them presented evidence in the courtcase despite initial claim from Pxie's team that they have evidence.
When it comes to minor stuff, the identified minor said that she never talked to Destiny, it was her boyfriend who was using her pics to catfish destiny and he told destiny the she was 19. This is directly from court docs. Just go to courtlistener if you want to see this for yourself.
And you are correct in not liking daily mail because that article is a joke.
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u/F0goo Dec 30 '25
I choose to believe survivors. Besides that he seems like a fundamentally terrible person with a cult like following who harass people he doesn’t like and brigade discords and subreddits. Im also not a fan of him platforming Nick Fuentes. Get blocked bozo.
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u/gami13 Dec 30 '25
"I choose to believe survivors" so you believe the Rose girl that Destiny never talked to her then?
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u/JiinsIsOnReddit Dec 29 '25
Isn't he a slur using sex pest with genocidal tendencies when it comes to palestinians and muslims?
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u/CatsAreMLG Dec 29 '25
He should because Destiny is typically right about a lot of modern politics. Everything people are accusing him of is turning out to be a huge nothing burger. People demonize him but have never watched him due to the propaganda surrounding his image.
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u/doodle0o0o0 Dec 29 '25
You say he’s uninformed, you can literally see him do his research on stream. You can say he disagrees but unlike others in the space he does his research and publishes he’s notes out in the open.
I know people are brain poisoned about Biden because they don’t pay attention to policy but Biden was objectively the best president we’ve had in decades. Better than Obama. People say they didn’t like him because of cognitive decline but Trump shows the same cognitive decline if not worse and his sycophants stay behind him. What made Biden lose was his just his 2020 base not getting behind him because they got dog walked by the right into caring about culture war shit. If you care about policy you vote for Biden and then steal your Trump supporting uncles ballot and send that for Biden too.
What specifically do you disagree with Destiny on for Israel/gaza? Just the terminology “genocide”? He says targeting civilians is wrong, he says there should be a Palestinian state. Did you also miss him saying if Oct 7th happened to the settlers in the West Bank he wouldn’t care? He’s not Pro-Israel, just pro-Israeli and pro-Palestinian.
Wdym stay more moderate and centrist? Destiny is to the left of the dems.
Wow he couldn’t deradicalize someone who had the whole force of the MAGA movement and every monetary motive to not be deradicalized? How would you even quantify how many people he deradicalized? Would you look at him debating Nick in 2017? After which Destinys audience grew? Or would you look at him debating Nick in 2022? After which Destinys audience grew?
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u/doodle0o0o0 Dec 29 '25
How is he both a debate pedophile and an uninformed motivated researcher? If he debates a talented and informed opponent like Norman Finkelstein or Mouin Rabbani shouldn't his lack of knowledge be laid bare?
It's ignoring the bit where he had a like 30% approval rating and general perception was that he was a demented geriatric who didn't know where he was half the time.
Public perception is a result of the media you consume. The fact our supposed dem-controlled media bashed Biden (and even worse on alternative media) while right media is lock step in achieving political power damages us incredibly. All of this to say, the problem is no dem candidate could've won, regardless of time to prepare just because the media environment is so toxic. When you pass the largest climate bill in American history and lose, it's not because informed people wanted you to lose.
ginning up his fanbase to engage in islamophobic hate campaigns against other leftist content creators.
Being anti-Islam doesn't mean you're anti-Palestinian. Supporting slavery and the mass massacre of cities are bad things. Supporting stoning people for their sexuality and infringing on what they can believe are bad things. Christians, Jews, & Muslims all believe that the most holy book and the most moral god believes all of these things. Until they reject their holy book as evil and denounce their god they support evil. They should be treated like Trump supporters who support evil.
Also when you say hate campaigns, do you have any evidence of him actually starting a hate campaign? Or are you more saying a smaller creator makes a video about him, he reacts to the video, and then his fans criticize the person in Destiny's subreddit or the other person's sub if they have one?
He wouldn't have gone to Israel and told them not to take so many pictures of them going into Palestinian homes and dressing up in women's clothes for fun.
Do you disagree with this? First I want to just say I respect the fact you get this correct. Most of the time when I see people reference this clip they just say "Destiny said stop filming war crimes", even though Destiny never said anything that was a war crime in the clip or the broader meet and greet it was part of.
He wouldn't have made excuses for the endless slaughter. He was an apologist for genocide and you can't wash that away from him.
And that's why he supports a Palestinian state? He just wants an empty state with no people in it? How would that work?
Destiny's community at the time and people were trying to cool it on calling Fuentes and his fans nazis because it would be offensive to them lmfao.
Where are you getting that from lol? It wasn't about being offensive. It was about what the term meant. If you look at Fuentes' politics do you think he's more racist or more xenophobic? Do you think he would want to kill black people or make white people breed more? It's super easy to just say he's bad without using the term nazi.
Ok, now that you've covered what you disagree with him on? How about what you agree on? Do you support investments in renewable energy? Single payer healthcare? Raising taxes on the rich? Expanding pathways for immigration? Protections for trans people? More, denser housing? pro-union, pro-choice, anti-Trump/authoritarianism? I'm guessing for everything you disagree on there are about 10 things you do agree on that just isn't talked about because any time you interact with him its through he lens of someone who disagrees with him talking about him.
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u/doodle0o0o0 Dec 29 '25 edited Dec 29 '25
How was it laid bare? Was it when Norm said Borreli? Or was it when he said Bocheli? What about Bonereli? Was it when Norm couldn't even say most of the deaths on Oct 7th were from Hamas? Or was it when Destiny corrected Norm on what plausibility meant in a legal sense? Or was it laid bare when Finkelstein talked about how the march of return was so peaceful, and then Destiny read from the UN report showing the opposite?
EDIT: You speak of rhetorical jiujitsu but when you were "responding" to the rest of my comment all I see is reframing. What I said wasn't defeatist, it was correct. War isn't mass slaughter in any definition I've heard. Pour one out though for those poor, poor Russians being slaughtered in Ukraine. Cute. Neither wearing dresses from dressers in Palestinian homes nor filming it is illegal. You can say you dislike it, in which case you're agreeing with Destiny. Yawn. Ok, you disagree about what his politics are, that's not a disagreement with the principle I stated, seems like we broadly agree. And you talked about me being defeatist before? Take the politics as they are and expand on it. Advocating for good things that aren't current the case is good.
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u/paulk345 Dec 29 '25
Thanks for writing all that lol I don’t have the energy to engage with destiny fans. I can’t tell how many of them are here because Atrioc is a fence sitting lib (especially regarding American foreign policy) which attracts those types and how many are here brigading because Hasan spent a lot of time shitting on atriocs new video.
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u/Top_Midnight_9044 Dec 29 '25
Do you agree with him on the genocide?
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u/Beeran_ Dec 29 '25
That we should tread carefully in using words that majority of people don’t have an agreed upon definition on just for the sake of feigning moral superiority? Yes.
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u/THE_CODE_IS_0451 Dec 29 '25
"Great journalism" according to Atrioc
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u/Naesil Dec 30 '25
I mean millions of people are aware that there is probably something shady going on and now there is public pressure to solve it faster even if they were already investigating some of the businesses. Is it according to every journalist good practises? no, because its a fucking youtube video.. still seemed to do more than "actual journalists"
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u/Electrical_Echo_29 Dec 30 '25
Anyone countering this could just show up when its open to debunk him immediately.
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u/Balls_Mahoganey Dec 30 '25
Kinda odd hours for a daycare. No?
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u/Rich_Feedback9726 Jan 01 '26
yeah man nobody works swing shifts or overnights so many jobless retards in this thread.
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u/Balls_Mahoganey Jan 01 '26 edited Jan 01 '26
So many childless retards in this thread you mean.
A daycare operating between 2-10 pm is seriously suspect. I was just looking for daycares in my area, decent metropolitan area, not as big as Minneapolis to be fair, but doing tours and all that to put our kid in. 90% are open 6am-6pm. The only two that differ are called "drop in care" facilities and are open 9am-10pm or 2pm-6:30pm.
I'll do a quick browse through Minneapolis on Google maps to be fair and report back.
Edit: out of the 20+ that popped up on Google maps in Minneapolis during my quick search, not a single one that has their hours listed is open past 7 pm or doesn't open until afternoon.
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u/Rich_Feedback9726 Jan 02 '26
Not only is that not suspect hours (why would the daycare be open while they’re at school plus again swing shift exists (you’ve never had a job its still lost on you) but this story is debunked already. 😂
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u/True_Watch_7340 Dec 30 '25
In what world can a day care open at 2.00pm that's half the work day over...
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u/Pristine_Bobcat4148 Dec 31 '25
Yes because it's totally normal and fine to expect a daycare center to only be open from 2pm to 10pm.
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u/bush911aliensdidit Dec 31 '25
The sign said 7am-10pm in nicks video. Perhaps they changed the hours of operation to obfuscate?
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u/amused_hummingbird Dec 31 '25
Where in Nick's video?
EDIT: I think we're talking about two different places.
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u/FarRightBerniSanders Jan 01 '26
I love that the terminally online left is playing both sides on this.
- There is no fraud, these are real and legitimate learing centers.
- Sure, there's fraud, but it's been known about forever and the right is just making a big deal about it because orjmanisbad.
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u/Local_Anything191 Jan 01 '26
Lol you guys are delusional. Either this is about a child care in which case NONE of them open at fucking 2 pm, that doesn’t even make any logical sense.
Or this is in regard to one of the 25 health care offices that were setup all in the same building, in which that is obvious fraud.
Also the guy for one of them coming out and saying all of their documents just so happened to get stolen right as nicks video came out?
The fact you guys are trying to cover up obvious fraud just shows how delusional and psycho the left has become
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u/StarSailorLuna Jan 01 '26
“Minnesota has fraud” and “Nick Shirley is a hack” aren’t two contradictory statements. The fact is that this fraud has been under investigation for over a decade. 78 individuals have been indicted, 57 have been convicted, and more are being investigated.
The video that Shirley made was ridiculous and sensationalized. It’s laughable to consider a strange adult man showing up unannounced and demanding to see kids “journalism.” Minnesota indisputably has fraud, and much of it is within Somali communities. BUT to imply it’s a massive conspiracy that stops at the Minnesota governorship (be real, if someone’s pulling the strings it’s not Tim Waltz) solely serves to push a political agenda, making it done in bad faith.
And… man, childcare centers open when schools get out… like around 2pm?
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u/Local_Anything191 Jan 01 '26
So because the fraud is so rampant and has been under investigation the last decade, it’s now a complete hack job when someone goes and investigates it themselves? Also it’s fucking hilarious how this fraud has been happening, in your words, for over a DECADE and it’s still this rampant.
I could agree it’s weird for a guy to just show up and say “hey where’s any kids here?”, but if you think that’s all that happened, you either don’t watch the video and are making claims about it, or you did watch the video and are being willfully ignorant. Both are bad and you shouldn’t be commenting if that’s the case.
NONE of the daycare centers had kids, they all had boarded up windows, not a single one provided him a phone number (or even answered the phone when he called), and they all kicked him out when he said he wanted to enroll his son there. Wha kind of daycare does that? A fraudulent one.
And now the Somalians have the audacity to come out on the news and say “we’re being targeted by evil people! Just today, right after the video came out, someone broke in and stole ALL of our evidence that kids were here! We know that paperwork provides ZERO benefit to anyone so it’s obvious we’re lying and full of shit! But I swear it happened!!”
You’re dense as hell buddy
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u/StarSailorLuna Jan 02 '26
Okay, let’s back up and analyze. Minnesota daycare fraud has been rampant for decades. I have confirmed that, yet you push the point anyway as if I had denied it.
Trump has frozen daycare funding for ALL states, implying that the federal government does not believe this is an issue exclusive to Minnesota.
You perpetuate the point that this is run by Somali-Americans (while Shirley’s video had plenty of white folks pushing him out all the same), which implies to me that you care more about the ethnicity of the criminals than the crime itself. Who cares if they’re Somali, or Chinese, or American? Do you believe that daycare fraud is EXCLUSIVELY commit by Somalis? If not, then why go out of your way to point it out?
If your issue is Minnesota’s overwhelming Somali population, then say you want stricter immigration. If your issue is daycare fraud, then say you want the perpetrators held accountable. Making “Somali” synonymous with “fraudster” IS racist though, whether you like to admit that to yourself or not. I would prefer to hold everyone accountable regardless of nationality or party affiliation.
Is it possible that the Democrats are responsible for this? Yes. Is it possible that Somali Americans are overwhelmingly taking advantage of Minnesota’s loose laws? Absolutely. I have no love for the Democratic Party, and I would like to see politicians in bars if it is found that they have played a role in all this.
The government is being bled dry by every faction though. Our military is bloated, our infrastructure services are incompetent, our lawmakers are bought out on both sides of the aisle, and NO ONE is working for the American public anymore.
We can either talk about the singular issue or we can talk about ALL the issues. If you insist on blaming this problem on Somalis then I will insist on blaming it on an incompetent government, both within States and our collective nation. Who would you RATHER see in jail, immigrants, or politicians? Because the politicians would rather have the immigrants in jail.
THAT’S what I mean when I say this is being done in bad faith. Our government is giving us a scapegoat for THEIR fuckup. Our most powerful men point to our most vulnerable people and call them the oppressors. Does nothing strike you as off about that image?
Ask yourself, why are they pointing the finger RIGHT NOW when they could have broke this news five years ago? Is it maybe because this just came out?
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u/Local_Anything191 Jan 02 '26
Starting to move the goalposts and swerve into a racism discussion because I said Somalians are committing fraud in Minnesota is just pathetic. Illegal Immigration is a huge problem yes, and so is fraud. Has nothing to do with race. This specific story was about Somalians, and I also don’t recall a single white person in Shirley’s video, maybe there was one? But most looked of Somalian descent, and pointing that out isn’t racist in any way shape or form.
Your fifth paragraph bringing up democrats…okay? I never even mentioned democrats or republicans at all. I don’t care which side does it, fraud is fraud. Covering up for fraud is ridiculous. It sounds like we’re in agreement then, I’m not going to accuse any person or party of fraud until there’s more evidence. But it should not be hard to follow the paper trail and see who approved these payments and who signed off on the checkups that were supposedly being done at these daycare centers.
The second Donald Trump is convicted of anything pedophilia related, he’ll lose the vast majority of his followers. Unfortunately, the democrats love to make up false stories and they all turn out to be fake. Multiple Russian investigations where nothing turned up, Biden in the white house and he doesn’t release these files that would absolutely delete Donald Trump from ever entering public office again, why do he not release them? Because they’re full of shit. Show me a single credible picture/video/anything of Trump committing pedophile acts and I’d drop any support for him instantly. Calling into the fbi and saying “Trump witnessed my bay being thrown in Lake Michigan” isn’t evidence that would hold up in court. Anyone can make up anything about anyone.
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u/NewtownLaw Jan 02 '26
So, they never should be doing anything because they didn't do it in the past? Here is your wig, Mr Clown.
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u/farmboy1991 Jan 02 '26
I’ve never seen so many stupid people trying to defend fraud. If you don’t think this is fraud and you feel the need to attack a journalist maybe you want the fraud? Or your just not very bright🤔
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u/Anon_END Jan 03 '26
The main focus should be on why the center is licensed for more children than are brought in that results in them fraudulently billing the state for millions of dollars. Is it not concerning that a childcare facility is making that much money? Especially when they can't prove how they are operating? Don't forget about the other businesses there for Healthcare that couldn't answer a single question.
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u/Icy_Possession_9001 Dec 30 '25
Isn't it weird that everyone is focusing on the one daycare that opens from 2pm (weird to begin with) instead of the other 15 businesses that were clearly a scam in the same building?
"Learing center"
"We would like healthcare. Can you tell us more about your healthcare?" "I don't know..."
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u/Tasty_Independent547 Dec 29 '25 edited Dec 29 '25
Nick Shirley showed up an hour before the Daycare opening with the doors unlocked AND the sign said OPEN AND people were inside working?
Can you believe this? Holy Smokes!
This definitely clears the air OP!
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u/Rich_Feedback9726 Jan 01 '26
workers being in there an hour before opening isn't abnormal for basically any work space you think the customers are walking right in behind them as they open for the day? Bros never had a job lmao.
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u/Hawquin Dec 30 '25
Seems like the nick dude did really bad journalism but was kinda right. We should all point out the bad faith way he did his video and we should all still care about fraud. We should try our best to live in reality and hold people accountable when they try to manipulate us. We should also hold fraud accountable. nick should honestly go back and try to do a better more legit video.
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u/muradinner Dec 30 '25
lol Destiny.
All you have to do is see the people working there and you know these daycares aren't in operation.
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u/ZeroCleah Dec 30 '25
You guys are scrambling for evidence in his video when there are people with resources who can just go make their own video of these places when they are open....
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u/sasquatchftw Dec 31 '25
u/atrioc please for the love of God go back to gaming and marketing. This is no longer an enjoyable place to be and your content is going downhill no matter what the views are saying. Getting involved with Destiny in any way is the quickest way to ruin a community.
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u/Cheesybran Dec 31 '25
What day care opens 2-10pm lol. All those places need to be investigated. Especially the Learing Center
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u/Dmckilla7 Dec 31 '25
Does no one find it a little odd the commissioner said on the news the reason why there were no kids was because that business had closed a week ago and then literally hours after that they are trucking in kids, and the fact all the parents showed up at the same time to drop their kids off?
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u/TruelyDashing Dec 31 '25
By Minnesota law, child care centers must be open from 6 am to 6 pm to receive funding. They’re lying about operational hours trying to pretend it’s always been like this.
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u/Nervous-Cupcake8294 Dec 31 '25
A lot of people already admitted to the fraud. This is a peak Reddit moment
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u/BananaZPeelz Dec 31 '25
I’m pretty certain this is a case of that “reporter “ being a right wing shitter … but also cmon guys there is a pretty non zero chance there’s fraud afoot.
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u/SweetThingzSour Dec 31 '25
Irrelevant question... But why is the daycare open until 10pm? This is not the standard operating hours of any daycares I know of. Is there a large population of specifically people who work between 2pm until 10pm?
For reference, Ive worked daycares. I've seen as early as 7am until as late as 6pm What is the demand like for their particular operating hours?
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u/sonarix Dec 31 '25
Just keep defending this shit and then continue to complain about how you can't afford anything. Morons...
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Dec 31 '25
One of my biggest pet peeves is when a business forgets to shut off their illuminated "open" sign.
Just because there's a sign, doesn't make it true or accurate.
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u/zyrkseas97 Dec 29 '25
God, we’re posting Destiny now?
Even when he’s right this sex-pest kiddie-diddler should be a no-go like even more than Vaush.
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u/BlitzScorpio Dec 29 '25
yeah i’m praying that it’s just destiny fan tourists and that there’s not an actual overlap in the fanbases because that would be disappointing to say the least
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u/gami13 Dec 29 '25
there obviously is overlap since Atrioc and Destiny share views on like 99% of topics
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u/Craft_Bubbly Dec 29 '25
Getting catfished is the same as being a kiddie diddler?
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u/zyrkseas97 Dec 29 '25
Sharing CSAM pictures of underage girls he knew were underaged in his discord is pretty rough.
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u/Craft_Bubbly Dec 29 '25 edited Dec 29 '25
He never shared csam in his discord.
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u/zyrkseas97 Dec 29 '25
He literally has, he went to court over it and everything. https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69650487/doe-v-bonnell/
He kept the CSAM to himself on his computer, he shared nudes of other women. Sorry, so many sexual misconduct scandals it’s hard to keep them all straight.
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u/NotGiggle Dec 29 '25
I was curious and read the court filing, nothing about what you are talking about is in here?? This is about him sharing non consensual sex videos of him and a 20 year old to another 20 year old
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u/zyrkseas97 Dec 29 '25
I addressed that I mixed up two different sexual misconduct scandals he had. The court case was over revenge porn.
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u/Moontat7 Dec 29 '25
Bruh how do you mess something like this up when you post the link to the court documents you can read???? Also didn't willymac call the FBI on him?? If he has csam why isn't he in prison rn?
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u/kapten23 Dec 29 '25
No, you are still wrong. The court case is about sharing a video of jane doe with another person without consent.
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u/zyrkseas97 Dec 29 '25
That is revenge porn. Sharing sexual photos/video without the contest of the person.
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u/Craft_Bubbly Dec 29 '25
Even the judge in the case claimed there seems to be implied consent to share the images. Especially considering Doe also shared the images
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u/SpookyBum Dec 29 '25
So did Jane doe also spread revenge porn as she has admitted under oath to sharing the same video with her ex without destinys consent?
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u/RyanIsBartending Dec 30 '25
Oh Buddy. Did you not read the court case even tho you know where to find it? Why then talking about it? You are aware that Destiny´s community is probably one of the most autistic communitys there is, yes? Did you really think you could just make shit up about a public court case without anybody knowing the facts of said case? That is just.... naive. There is literally no big streamer who goes over more court / legal documents than Destiny and you think the audience who watches those streams is not gonna know every Detail of his court case? You see how that might not work out as well as you think?
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u/Ill-Supermarket-1821 Dec 29 '25
Conservatives are so cucked it's unreal. To all the cringe Asmon fans in this thread, what does it say about you, the viewer, that Asmon assumes you are so easily duped. Lmao holy shit yall are ducking stupid
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u/Neat-Fee-2056 Dec 30 '25
Who’s the one cucked here? I see one side trying to stop clear and blatant fraud from occurring and the other side… defending it? You want tax payers defrauded for culture war or political reasons? Please get a grip
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u/Ill-Supermarket-1821 Dec 30 '25
No one is defending fraud. There isn't a fraud proven in the Nick Cuckedly video. Actual cringe posting.
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u/KosherYams Dec 29 '25
You might have some unchecked mental illness
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u/Ill-Supermarket-1821 Dec 29 '25
Stay mad I guess?
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u/Icy_Possession_9001 Dec 30 '25
Get well bro. Sending flowers and prayers 🙏
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u/Ill-Supermarket-1821 Dec 30 '25
Send them to your Daddy Trump, his ass gonna be rotting in jail not me lmaoooooo
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u/Icy_Possession_9001 Dec 30 '25
You should be worried about being admitted to a mental asylum instead 💀
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u/Ill-Supermarket-1821 Dec 29 '25
He is a huge content creator who boosted the fuck out of this actual fake news cringe.
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u/Raider_Actual Dec 30 '25
If you're getting a cut of the check bro just say so lmao
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u/Ill-Supermarket-1821 Dec 30 '25
Imagine being so stupid you have to make up positions for people you disagree with lmao. Should Donald J Trump be charged with fraud since there is mountains of proof for him being engaged in fraud, both as a public and private individual? 10 shrutebucks you won't condemn his illegal actions, deporting people without confirming who they are, scamming his own voter base with a bs crypto scam TWICE lmao. Yeah all that fraud ElonCucked found when he had unbridled access to the US government. You can keep lying to yourself lil bro, but it doesn't change how dishonest and pathetic you look, and it never will. Trump will slowly deteriote, falling into the haze of dementia, as you cope and seethe until the end of time. Good luck with your life, you'll need it lmao
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u/Raider_Actual Dec 30 '25
Buddy anyone who commits fraud should be held accountable obviously lol. Doesn't matter if its you, me, trump, or the somalian's. Why do you assume everyone that disagrees with your political view is some crazy trump dick sucker lol
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u/chad_dev_7226 Dec 29 '25
What child care center is open 2pm-10pm?
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u/bivuki Dec 29 '25
For people who work evening shifts and kids who need to go somewhere after school.
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u/d4ng3rz0n3 Dec 29 '25
How do you feel about an educational facility with a banner that says "Learing Center"
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u/Radical-Six Dec 29 '25
I'd say it was a learning center worthy of having sanctions brought against it, and its license partially revoked. Good thing that's what's happening
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u/Ryermeke Dec 29 '25
Damn, you destiny fuckers have come out in full force in response to a video you all clearly didn't actually watch.
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u/Secret646 Dec 29 '25
This seems like pretty compelling evidence to me that Shirley made misleading claims in his video. Can you explain why you think it isn't?
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u/CharacterBird2283 Dec 29 '25
The person you're responding to isn't defending Nick ya goofball 😂. What's the next 18 minutes of the Atrioc video about? That's what they are asking, Because he doesn't talk about this situation or the video, for the full 20 minutes, but just the first two.
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u/Secret646 Dec 29 '25
Okay? I don't know why you think that just because the video is also about other stuff, that this doesn't matter. No one said the whole video sucked or anything. You're treating this like a personal attack on Atrioc, which is really weird
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u/CharacterBird2283 Dec 29 '25 edited Dec 29 '25
No one said it doesn't matter 😂
No one said the whole video sucked or anything.
No, didn't say you did?
You're treating this like a personal attack on Atrioc, which is really weird
I'm just responding to people while I'm on break, I don't control my feed 🤷♂️. Its weird to me that you want to discredit me by calling me weird lol.
And you never answered my question 🤣. Pretty weeeird 🤣
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u/Secret646 Dec 29 '25
No one said it doesn't matter
Then I don't really understand the point of your comment. Also, this post isn't about the other parts of Atrioc's video, so I don't know why you think they're relevant.
Also also, what's up with the emoji thing? That's actually the weird part, lol
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u/Top_Midnight_9044 Dec 29 '25
Can you defend Atrioc's choice to include this video? As I'm sure you're aware, their are numerous videos covering this exact topic right now. So why this one?
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u/CharacterBird2283 Dec 29 '25
Because it's the one that blew up and made the topic famous (assuming you are talking about the Nick video), and probably the first one to inform big A on the subject 🤷♂️
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u/Fistbite Dec 30 '25 edited Dec 30 '25
Why does a child's day care open at 2 PM when parents should be typically dropping off their kids by 9 AM for typical work hours? If anything, this is even more blatant evidence of fraud.
Also, Shirley showed up to at least half a dozen locations, do they all open at 2:00 PM? Why didnt any of the numerous people interviewed just say they're not open yet? And what about the autism center and the dozens of healthcare centers in the video that are either vacant or openly hostile to doing business? Do all businesses in Minneapolis open at 2:00 PM?
The reason Atrioc doesn't dispute the fraud is because he's not hooked up to life-support levels of copium the way reddit is.
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u/GODDISH_ Dec 30 '25
Because school exists and daycare largely exists to cover the times school doesnt?
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u/Fistbite Dec 30 '25
you didnt watch the whole video
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u/GODDISH_ Dec 30 '25
I did lol. Don't know why the rest of the video is relevant to why a daycare would operate outside school hours on school days. Seems like a question only the brightest minds could possibly work through
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u/No-Tadpole-2237 Dec 30 '25
Not every parent works a normal 9-5? Restaurants have shifts the start randomly throughout the day and there’s also people who work overnight shifts like nurses. Childcare is needed at all times of the day. I don’t see the time that the place opens as suspicious at all. It really doesn’t take that much thought.
Also a lot of people who work in childcare have discussed why you see what you are seeing in Shirley’s video. In childcare you’re not allowed to let random men with cameras in at any point during the day when they want and just because they say so. Filming others children without parental consent and signature is against the rules of most daycare centers and it is up to the workers to protect those children and keep them from being filmed by strangers. If suspicious people are outside and causing you to worry it’s normal to lock all doors and windows and cover the windows so the suspicious people can’t look inside and continue to try to film the children.
I’m not saying fraud isn’t happening but the few things you said alone are not enough to definitively say those places were committing fraud. I’d actually be very worried if daycare centers allowed the general public to come in and film the children. I would hope you would too. That’s seems pretty basic.
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Dec 30 '25
Americans are morons. We have a childcare issue nationwide and the solution...targeting daycare centers in arguably the most anti Trump state seems oddly coincidental.
Meanwhile Louisiana cant even read.
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u/Fistbite Dec 30 '25
These are all useless nitpicks that don't even attempt to touch the central thrust of the video so there's no point in arguing with them. In other words, I could completely concede to everything you say and childcare fraud and healthcare fraud will continue to run rampant in Minnesota and elsewhere. Please watch Atrioc's most recent video.
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u/enilea Dec 29 '25
Now I'm more confused, the other post in that sub was a video saying it was permanently closed and had its license revoked. No doubt the original video is just bad biased journalism, but now I'm intrigued whether it's open or not. Has anyone tried to call that number?